Bill Clinton met with AG Loretta Lynch privately in Phoenix

[emperus]

Yep. If this had been an AG from an R admin, the media would be in a head-spinning rage, not to mention several of the usual suspects on here. And the rest of your post is spot on.

If this were a Republican there would be no investigation by the Republican AG and the Republicans would hold firm and not give a shit and the media would eventually move on. This is the difference between the two parties. Obama has genuinely tried to run a clean administration.

And honestly, this is more trumped up BS. We have a Democratic AG who works for a Democratic President and you are telling me that her decision on what to do would have been made and changed because Bill Clinton met with her privately on a tarmac? It was silly to do, but seriously, this BS is the reason our country is the way it is. If Bill wanted to bribe her, he would have found countless ways to do so outside a private meeting.

Lastly, the double standard is remarkable. Think about the case surrounding Trump University. We literally had a situation where 2 AG's got cash donations after speaking with Trump and following their decisions to drop lawsuits that actually did affect real people. I'll be looking forward to the media coverage on that and the same people hyperventilating on that issue as did on this.

 

[ivwshane]

If this were a Republican there would be no investigation by the Republican AG and the Republicans would hold firm and not give a shit and the media would eventually move on. This is the difference between the two parties. Obama has genuinely tried to run a clean administration.

And honestly, this is more trumped up BS. We have a Democratic AG who works for a Democratic President and you are telling me that her decision on what to do would have been made and changed because Bill Clinton met with her privately on a tarmac? It was silly to do, but seriously, this BS is the reason our country is the way it is. If Bill wanted to bribe her, he would have found countless ways to do so outside a private meeting.

Lastly, the double standard is remarkable. Think about the case surrounding Trump University. We literally had a situation where 2 AG's got cash donations after speaking with Trump and following their decisions to drop lawsuits that actually did affect real people. I'll be looking forward to the media coverage on that and the same people hyperventilating on that issue as did on this.

Rule number one from the Republican playbook: accuse you opponent of doing what it is you yourself are doing.

 

[Artdeco]

If this were a Republican there would be no investigation by the Republican AG and the Republicans would hold firm and not give a shit and the media would eventually move on. This is the difference between the two parties. Obama has genuinely tried to run a clean administration.

And honestly, this is more trumped up BS. We have a Democratic AG who works for a Democratic President and you are telling me that her decision on what to do would have been made and changed because Bill Clinton met with her privately on a tarmac? It was silly to do, but seriously, this BS is the reason our country is the way it is. If Bill wanted to bribe her, he would have found countless ways to do so outside a private meeting.

Lastly, the double standard is remarkable. Think about the case surrounding Trump University. We literally had a situation where 2 AG's got cash donations after speaking with Trump and following their decisions to drop lawsuits that actually did affect real people. I'll be looking forward to the media coverage on that and the same people hyperventilating on that issue as did on this.

See that's the problem with optics, many see it as a blunt public f**k you meeting by someone that feels he shouldn't be held accountable, even by Democrats.

 

[JSt0rm]

the real thing is trump is gonna lose unless the republicans can put hillary in prison. Thats literally the game plan this time around.

 

[buckshot24]

the real thing is trump is gonna lose unless the republicans can put hillary in prison. Thats literally the game plan this time around.

Republicans have nothing to do with whether or not she gets put in prison, if she goes down for this it will be at the hands of Democrats.

 

[uclaLabrat]

lol +1


Meh. Everyone knows that Lynch is Obama's cat's paw. That's the nature of the position, and if anyone doubted it, that editing of the Orlando shooter's words put it to rest. I can't see this changing her reputation one way or the other.

As for a special prosecutor, I don't see that as workable. Neither Obama nor Congress could nominate someone without political taint attaching, he or she would probably be conducting the bulk of the investigation on a sitting President, and there is always immense pressure on a special prosecutor to indict SOMEONE, for SOMETHING. In this case we already know exactly what she did and why she did it, we know that the Bushies did the same thing to a much limited degree, and we know that some of her illegal behavior was honestly required to effectively do her job. (Admittedly not required the way she did it, but laws were going to be broken regardless if on her private server or State's server.) What's left to investigate?


Nice that you've already provided her with a ready-made excuse for anything she gets caught doing. Why, she'd be insane not to break the law! Luckily Mrs. Clinton is the only politician in history to be investigated for anything or this really might get out of hand. Of course, we would be insane to elect as President someone who would be insane not to break the law for her own convenience.

Hilarious. She'd be insane to not break the law! Nice try, she didn't break the law.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/12/hillary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/
She broke laws that didn't exist until after she left office. Small difference there hoss.

 

[Artdeco]

Hilarious. She'd be insane to not break the law! Nice try, she didn't break the law.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/12/hillary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/
She broke laws that didn't exist until after she left office. Small difference there hoss.

The article you linked to doesn't support your position.

 

[lopri]

Someone should lock Bill up until the 4th of November so he does not sabotage Hillary's candidacy.

 

[uclaLabrat]

The article you linked to doesn't support your position.

"Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.

"Unless she violated a rule dealing with the handling of classified or sensitive but unclassified information, I don’t see how she violated any law or regulation," said Bass, who is now executive director of the Bauman Foundation. "There may be a stronger argument about violating the spirit of the law, but that is a very vague area."

There you go.

 

[werepossum]

Exactly, Omar Mateen comes to mind as someone they harassed.

lol +1

Hilarious. She'd be insane to not break the law! Nice try, she didn't break the law.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/12/hillary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/
She broke laws that didn't exist until after she left office. Small difference there hoss.

You might want to actually read that article, for not even Politifact was willing to put lipstick on that pig.

"Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.

"Unless she violated a rule dealing with the handling of classified or sensitive but unclassified information, I don’t see how she violated any law or regulation," said Bass, who is now executive director of the Bauman Foundation. "There may be a stronger argument about violating the spirit of the law, but that is a very vague area."

There you go.

Hmm, let's see what expert Politifact chose to carry the water they refused.
http://www.baumanfoundation.org/

Advancing Advocacy
All Americans deserve to have a say in the policies that affect them; we support them in their struggle to amplify their voice and be heard by policymakers.

Protecting the Earth and its People
We must reduce the level of toxins in our air and water that threaten the health of our families and our environment.

Promoting Open and Transparent Government
In order to be accountable to the people it serves, government must be open and honest about its work.

Strengthening Democracy
We believe in the principles of the constitution that guarantee that all eligible voters should be able to participate in free and fair elections.

Hmm, seems to be rather a paucity of government rule expertise, and yet they are championing a woman who willfully and blatantly went against the very things they claim to be for - open and transparent government. Conducting official business on a private server in her basement and turning over only printed documents - and as was proven by the Blumenthal hack, documents that she had selectively deleted and edited - is the very antithesis of open and transparent government.

Nobody should be that dishonest and/or willfully stupid, dude. The Bauman Foundation is a far left advocacy organization, as was OMB Watch before it.

 

[Artdeco]

"Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.

"Unless she violated a rule dealing with the handling of classified or sensitive but unclassified information, I don’t see how she violated any law or regulation," said Bass, who is now executive director of the Bauman Foundation. "There may be a stronger argument about violating the spirit of the law, but that is a very vague area."

There you go.

There's a rule of thumb, read the last paragraph of an article:

Metcalfe pointed to Clinton’s use of the word "allowed" and "opted" throughout her press conference, when referring to her decision to use private email. He said both words give the false impression that the law and its proper implementation presented her with a choice. She might have been "allowed" to use only a private email account in that no one stopped her, Metcalfe said, but that’s not the same thing as lawfully complying with rules.

 

[uclaLabrat]

lol +1


You might want to actually read that article, for not even Politifact was willing to put lipstick on that pig.


Hmm, let's see what expert Politifact chose to carry the water they refused.
http://www.baumanfoundation.org/

Hmm, seems to be rather a paucity of government rule expertise, and yet they are championing a woman who willfully and blatantly went against the very things they claim to be for - open and transparent government. Conducting official business on a private server in her basement and turning over only printed documents - and as was proven by the Blumenthal hack, documents that she had selectively deleted and edited - is the very antithesis of open and transparent government.

Nobody should be that dishonest and/or willfully stupid, dude. The Bauman Foundation is a far left advocacy organization, as was OMB Watch before it.

You'll have to give me a minute to catch up to these goalposts you keep moving...

 

[First]

Of course. Just like all scandals involving people with magic 'D's after their names. Why, the FBI commonly spends a year investigating "giant nothing burgers" and virtually all of us locate our corporate server in our basement. Strictly for convenience, of course.

"Corporate". lol. I've personally built email servers for attorneys in their homes, not exactly a unique request as they're notoriously paranoid of cloud services, especially 5 years ago. Of course if you've never built an email server or dealt with attorneys or law firms then of course I understand how confusing this must be for you.

EDIT: Btw, what happens when the FBI doesn't recommend a Clinton indictment? Will the nothing burger still be a something burger?

 

[First]

I have always thought

Well, there's your first problem.

...it would be stopped at the AG level not the FBI so this is significant.

We are all just shocked you think this is significant.

 

[IGBT]

The Clinton Crime Family put the black hand of influence on her..who doesn't see that??

 

[C1]

Fact of the matter is that the more obnoxious the showboating among the politicians, the more it plays in the news.

That's what attracts peoples attention, that's what sells, that's what the media feeds on - good career building.

We all love it and are unable to do anything else beyond the addiction.

 

[werepossum]

You'll have to give me a minute to catch up to these goalposts you keep moving...

You might wish to start your journey by investigating how we happened to have absolutely no laws on handling classified documents or official government documents before 2014. Even the dullest knife in the drawer might find that somewhat, um, unlikely.

 

[Genx87]

If this were a Republican there would be no investigation by the Republican AG and the Republicans would hold firm and not give a shit and the media would eventually move on. This is the difference between the two parties. Obama has genuinely tried to run a clean administration.

And honestly, this is more trumped up BS. We have a Democratic AG who works for a Democratic President and you are telling me that her decision on what to do would have been made and changed because Bill Clinton met with her privately on a tarmac? It was silly to do, but seriously, this BS is the reason our country is the way it is. If Bill wanted to bribe her, he would have found countless ways to do so outside a private meeting.

Lastly, the double standard is remarkable. Think about the case surrounding Trump University. We literally had a situation where 2 AG's got cash donations after speaking with Trump and following their decisions to drop lawsuits that actually did affect real people. I'll be looking forward to the media coverage on that and the same people hyperventilating on that issue as did on this.

How quickly we forget about Valerie Plame.

 

[Genx87]

Rule number one from the Republican playbook: accuse you opponent of doing what it is you yourself are doing.

That is the rule book for everybody.

 

[werepossum]

"Corporate". lol. I've personally built email servers for attorneys in their homes, not exactly a unique request as they're notoriously paranoid of cloud services, especially 5 years ago. Of course if you've never built an email server or dealt with attorneys or law firms then of course I understand how confusing this must be for you.

EDIT: Btw, what happens when the FBI doesn't recommend a Clinton indictment? Will the nothing burger still be a something burger?

How lucky for us that we are about to elect as President literally the only Secretary of State to ever discover this important principle that superior IT people such as yourself already know. With such a towering intellect at the helm giving us enlightened government totally without oversight, I've no doubt that she can succeed in making the USA every bit as successful as she made Libya and Syria.

As for the other "point", I've laid out my reasoning several times. I have every faith that someone of your massive intellectual prowess and experience can easily find it and understand it. Well . . . find it. Okay, find someone who can find it for you. After all, you already know that virtually all government and corporate servers are located in the executive's basement, so you're practically half way there already.

 

[Artdeco]

Here's another little nugget...

Bill Clinton is a well known figure, security detail and reporters everywhere...

He appears to have had no reason to be in Phoenix that day, nothing was reported.

Temp 109 in Phoenix that day, and he looks like a corpse to begin with.

 

[werepossum]

Here's another little nugget...

Bill Clinton is a well known figure, security detail and reporters everywhere...

He appears to have had no reason to be in Phoenix that day, nothing was reported.

Obviously he was there to talk about his grandchildren and play golf. When you have a private jet and unlimited free time, who doesn't want to fly to Phoenix to play golf? Hell, most of the country was barely breaking 100F - nobody can play golf when it's that cold!

Also, if you were a highly qualified IT expert, you'd understand that virtually all lawyers regularly fly to Phoenix to sit on the tarmac. It would be weird if he hadn't flown into Phoenix. Especially hours before the Benghazi report was released; if he didn't get to tell the Attorney General about his grandkids and his golf game before that report came out, imagine the ribbing he'd take from all the other attorneys! Just ask First, he'll 'splain it to you.

 

[Artdeco]

Can you imagine how hot it was on the tarmac? 120 or so, he must have been counting on the heat to keep people away.

 

[Double Trouble]

This whole thing absolutely reeks. Even if there was nothing discussed about the investigation, it's still completely inappropriate to have Bill having private meetings in a private jet with the person who is the head of the department that is investigating his wife for possible criminal activity.

It's not just the R's that think this smells, I'm sure there are plenty of D's who are not happy about it either.

The request by the DOJ the very next day to keep the emails hidden until after the election makes it look even worse. Just awful.

 

[Artdeco]

This whole thing absolutely reeks. Even if there was nothing discussed about the investigation, it's still completely inappropriate to have Bill having private meetings in a private jet with the person who is the head of the department that is investigating his wife for possible criminal activity.

It's not just the R's that think this smells, I'm sure there are plenty of D's who are not happy about it either.

The request by the DOJ the very next day to keep the emails hidden until after the election makes it look even worse. Just awful.

They're investigating him too...

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...ils-secret-meetings-clinton-foundation-donors

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/president-clinton

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/board-directors