Bill Gates pwned @ CES

[Hammer]

wow. gates swore he'd never let that happen again after the windows 95 thing.

oh well, at least it wasn't as high profile as the win95 thing.

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: Modeps
They were trying to show off Forza too early, it's still in development and no doubt has it's problems that need to get fixed... of course, it's supposed to come out in a month... wait... that means it should be gold... uh oh.

It was noted awhile back that they are shooting for April at the earliest.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: royaldank

Originally posted by: Modeps
They were trying to show off Forza too early, it's still in development and no doubt has it's problems that need to get fixed... of course, it's supposed to come out in a month... wait... that means it should be gold... uh oh.

It was noted awhile back that they are shooting for April at the earliest.

Last I heard was it was Feb... Looks like it may be GT4 for me after all.

 

[glen]

How do I set media player to buffer this whole thing, and then start playing it?

 

[royaldank]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2...2/21/news_6115484.html

Still, looks like a good game. And since GT4 is already a year late, you never know. If GT4 is out before summer, it would surprise me. Personally, I'll take Forza and the ability to play online.

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: lancestorm

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: dwell
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/ces2005/default.mspx

Seek to 01:13:25

bwahahahahaa

CLIFF NOTES ANYONE? I can't listen to it at work Damn old version of media palyer.

During demo of car software or something he gets blue screen...runs out of memory.

hahahahahahahaha. If that happened to me at work in front of our customer, I'd be shot on site by management. How a software house can do things so poorly is beyond me. Incremental builds with future feature sets...it seems liek Microsoft does things all at once. We get core functionality up and demo it to the costomer sometimes then finish the advanced stuff (whcih already exists in a non-functional "shell" in terms of software design). But to demo ANYTHING regardless of maturity and to have it fail is simply pathetic.

EDIT: And yes, they should have done a dry run first. But with POS software, what can you expect. It might have worked several days earlier.

Yes, because software and games never ever crash. :roll:

Shows your understanding of software development, or lack of. Microsoft have the resources to thoroughly test games like these with different scenario's, even before the actual CES show. Clearly they didnt.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Bassyhead

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
It's a feature.

It's a cliché!!!

 

[thejackal1]

nice!

 

[OverVolt]

They took the video down. It says "the video will be available later today"

i bet they edit out the BSOD.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

The video will be available later today.

What video?

 

[BannedTroll]

Originally posted by: OverVolt
They took the video down. It says "the video will be available later today"

i bet they edit out the BSOD.

That is what I was thinking.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: lancestorm

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: dwell
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/ces2005/default.mspx

Seek to 01:13:25

bwahahahahaa

CLIFF NOTES ANYONE? I can't listen to it at work Damn old version of media palyer.

During demo of car software or something he gets blue screen...runs out of memory.

hahahahahahahaha. If that happened to me at work in front of our customer, I'd be shot on site by management. How a software house can do things so poorly is beyond me. Incremental builds with future feature sets...it seems liek Microsoft does things all at once. We get core functionality up and demo it to the costomer sometimes then finish the advanced stuff (whcih already exists in a non-functional "shell" in terms of software design). But to demo ANYTHING regardless of maturity and to have it fail is simply pathetic.

EDIT: And yes, they should have done a dry run first. But with POS software, what can you expect. It might have worked several days earlier.

Yes, because software and games never ever crash. :roll:

Shows your understanding of software development, or lack of. Microsoft have the resources to thoroughly test games like these with different scenario's, even before the actual CES show. Clearly they didnt.

Like Argo said, it was a debug build. I programmed for 6 years. I do know a tiny little bit of software development, you frickin' asshat.

 

[TekViper]

mirrors?

 

[chuckywang]

Somebody please tell me that they got this vid downloaded!!!
I missed it.

 

[TekViper]

anyone have it?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: lancestorm

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: dwell
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/ces2005/default.mspx

Seek to 01:13:25

bwahahahahaa

CLIFF NOTES ANYONE? I can't listen to it at work Damn old version of media palyer.

During demo of car software or something he gets blue screen...runs out of memory.

hahahahahahahaha. If that happened to me at work in front of our customer, I'd be shot on site by management. How a software house can do things so poorly is beyond me. Incremental builds with future feature sets...it seems liek Microsoft does things all at once. We get core functionality up and demo it to the costomer sometimes then finish the advanced stuff (whcih already exists in a non-functional "shell" in terms of software design). But to demo ANYTHING regardless of maturity and to have it fail is simply pathetic.

EDIT: And yes, they should have done a dry run first. But with POS software, what can you expect. It might have worked several days earlier.

Yes, because software and games never ever crash. :roll:

OUR SOFTWARE DOES NOT CRASH! There might be a bug, but crashes do not occur. I work for a defense contractor, so that how things have to be, but it's just a development process. Anyone can have a good (mature) developmeent process. There are supposed to be checks, blances, tests and integration tests along the way along with peer reviews. All you have to do is do things properly and software does not have to crash. have a poorly run software development process at a company though and you are in trouble. Ours happens to be VERY good (when used).

You've never had a software crash? Honestly you should be building OS's...Jump right on that will you. Your development team must be lead up by the father, the son and the holy ghost. No freaking wonder you're perfect!!!

 

[NightCrawler]

Conan was the host and crack a joked.

 

[aswedc]

They also had a slide show fail earlier in the presentation...then at the end when Bill was racing Conan the game was running at like 2fps...

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow, image that. An unfinished product isn't perfect. Gee, wonder why it hasn't been released yet.

The fact that it's unfinished is of no imortance. What is demoed should be a working version that was tagged earlier by the lead developer in the software development control system.

ALL DEMOS SHOULD WORK! This jsut once again demonstrates how poorly run Microsofts software development is. It sounds like people with 20 years experience that will not change their ways when new technology appears (Object oriented being the biggest problem I have sen) are running things. It happens everywhere though. ahere should be a schedual and softwre dvelopment plan and this KEYNOTE should have been a milestone for a working prodduct with a reduced function set. PERIOD! This WAS A DELIVERABLE IN A WELL RUN PROGRAM

Please nominaet me i nthe 2005 ownage thread

Ever heard of MSF (Microsoft Solution Framework)? The crap you're talking trying to sound like a big time developer is ridiculous. MSF is the underlying principles of development and deployment of software. It ranges from a project trade-off (Resources, Schedule and Features) to an entire milestone based approach that also utilizes Interim milestones. All their development teams are preached this and practice it. 10-1 Odds are any model your small time development shop used was directly related to this model. It utilizes Vision/Scope, Envisioning, Project Plan Approved, Deliverables, Developing, Testing and Release to Customer. There are many interim phases for each phase and goals that are set forth during the project planning phase that dev teams need to meet. There are various cycles of development and testing that each solution must go through. I can't say MS isn't guilty of scope creep...but it's a world based on moving fast and making money

Microsoft follows this as do most development shops around. To think they just throw things together and became the company they did is ludicrous and only goes to show that ignorance rules.

Fyi you're right..you should nominate yourself for 2005 ownage...cause you just got served.

I still wanna see the video though..it's funny as hell it happened during a demo.

 

[NightCrawler]

There is a few video's over on Neowin, I'm surprised at how many freezes and crashes their are in the Demo. That just doesn't look good.

 

[alexjohnson16]

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
There is a few video's over on Neowin, I'm surprised at how many freezes and crashes their are in the Demo. That just doesn't look good.

Links??? Can't find any at Neowin, never been there...

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: royaldank
Wow, image that. An unfinished product isn't perfect. Gee, wonder why it hasn't been released yet.

The fact that it's unfinished is of no imortance. What is demoed should be a working version that was tagged earlier by the lead developer in the software development control system.

ALL DEMOS SHOULD WORK! This jsut once again demonstrates how poorly run Microsofts software development is. It sounds like people with 20 years experience that will not change their ways when new technology appears (Object oriented being the biggest problem I have sen) are running things. It happens everywhere though. ahere should be a schedual and softwre dvelopment plan and this KEYNOTE should have been a milestone for a working prodduct with a reduced function set. PERIOD! This WAS A DELIVERABLE IN A WELL RUN PROGRAM

Please nominaet me i nthe 2005 ownage thread

you have to spell at least one word right first

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

My old company tried to throw a huge launch demo/PR thing at the Ritz in London. The CEO did his big speech, unaware that the fools who set the demo up had used a limited license for a product WE developed. Guess when it decided to expire on them?

 

[quakefiend420]

bump for link of teh bsod