Binocular experts, recommendations?

Meractik

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I am seeking a pair of binocular's for at-sea use but ones that would also double to work well at recreational sporting events and occasional star gazing (just for fun)... I do not simply want to purchase a cheap pair as I desire something of quality but at the same time I am not made of money, maybe my max expenditures would be somewhere near the ball-park of $300 - oh and I would also like to travel with them too so nothing super huge...

anyone here recommend brands or specific binoculars?
 

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fralexandr

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star gazing + portable = ??? (star gazing = big aperature = not super portable)
most binoculars >$100 are already nitrogen filled to reduce condensation inside the lens, and thus are usually waterproof
do you wear glasses?
you'll probably be looking into something in the 7-10x range with 40mm+ aperature

what you should look for in marine binoculars
http://www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/marine-binoculars.php

http://www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/binoculars-best-value.php#3
you might want to look at the minox bn if you're mostly using it for boating.
nikon makes some nice stuff.
woot semi-frequently has some minox/vanguard binoculars on sale that should be pretty good too.
 
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kage69

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I picked up a pair of Nikons for a trip to Alaska back in 2005 and am very pleased, money well spent. They work and have held up great.
 

Lalakai

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there is no easy answer; most of it depends on you and your wallet. If someone was really serious about buying a good pair of binocs i would tell them to come back at night, or during a really ugly rainy dark day. In good sunlight, most binocs perform.....okay. It's in the poor light conditions that you start getting an idea of the quality of the optics and the lense coatings. We had a great spot to let people get an idea of the range of quality between different binocs. About 100 yards away was an old abandoned semi trailer with weeds grown up around it. We would step outside with 5-6 different pairs of binocs slowly going up the scale. With the $29 dollar pair of 8x30's they could see the weeds fairly clear. As we went up, they could see under the trailer, they would spot the old shoe...no not a shoe....a rabbit. Another aspect of good binocs is how good their quality is, on the edge of the viewing area. Difficult to explain so bear with me. the middle of the lense is often the thickest part and quality control is easier. as you near the edge of the lense, it tapers down and gets much thinner, making it harder to hold consistent slopes. Look through the binocs at a target; keep looking at the target but slowly pan the binocs sideways until that same target it just at the edge of the viewing field. High quality binocs will have clarity nearly all the way to the edge. Low quality binocs will loose sharpness almost immediately. If you are using your binocs for any type of viewing that involves movement (sports, bird watching, etc.), that lack of sharpness will quickly give you a headache as your eyes try to compensate for the lack of focus/sharpness. eye relief is critical for maximizing the full potential of your binocs. Basic guide.........the small glass lenses that are closest to your eyes......the larger diameter they are, the more flexibility you have regarding eye relief. When you are checking the binocs and setting them to your specific vision, DON"T SQUINT as you focus the individual eye. Squinting automatically forces the open eye to refocus, making your eye do the work instead of letting the binocs do the work, and that will you bad head quick. Simply use a cap to cover the right side of the binocs, keep both eyes open as you focus your left eye first. Relax and let the binocs do all the work. Once your left eye is nice and sharp, change the lense cap an repeat for right eye. Most people make the mistake of pressing the eye pieces against their eye sockets, to block out light and help stabilize the view. don't do it. There's a technique that works but it's hard to explain and I won't try. Bottom line: some people couldn't tell the difference between a $30 dollar pair and a $1200 dollar pair. Problem solved, go cheap. Others could tell the difference but it became minor after getting to the $300 pair, so that's where they stopped. Bird watchers and hunting guides were the most demanding, wanting true color transmission and absolute light transmission for low light situations, and they were willing to pay. Find a sporting goods store near you that has good range of binocs. Wait for nasty ugly day, then make the salesman go outside with you, taking 4-5 different pairs of binocs. Once you settle on a pair, don't buy them until you look at that specific pair; test them outside. Quality control can vary sharply between the same models until you start getting into the $400 dollar range.

Sorry for the short novel but optics are near and dear to my heart. A good pair of binocs will last a life time, letting you view through them for long long time without getting headache or eye fatigue. Some of the most fun is using the glasses at night, surprising you at just what you can see. My kids love just laying on a lounging chair and looking at the night sky with the binocs. Good luck.................I got blisters on my fingers............time to go
 

JimS

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star gazing + portable = ??? (star gazing = big aperature = not super portable)

If your sky is decently dark and clear, you can do some enjoyable stargazing with average binoculars. Average meaning average real binoculars, not toys with more magnification than aperture -- but that's never a good idea in any case, and I think the OP understands that.
 

Craig234

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If your sky is decently dark and clear, you can do some enjoyable stargazing with average binoculars. Average meaning average real binoculars, not toys with more magnification than aperture -- but that's never a good idea in any case, and I think the OP understands that.

What can you really see? Even telescopes cannot see more from any star except the Sun than a dot of light; the main thing you can get any new detail on is the moon.

With binoculars, I'd think you can get a slightly larger dot from a few of the planets, but not a lot more. And you could see more stars, mainly in our galaxy.
 

Spacehead

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What can you really see? Even telescopes cannot see more from any star except the Sun than a dot of light; the main thing you can get any new detail on is the moon.

With binoculars, I'd think you can get a slightly larger dot from a few of the planets, but not a lot more. And you could see more stars, mainly in our galaxy.
Star clusters, galaxies, astererisms, comets etc. Lots of stuff really.

My Nikon's have a rubber piece around the eye for wearing glasses or can be folded back if not.
 

JMapleton

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Look into Steiner....it's the brand the military uses.

Steiners would be a terrible choice. Most of their binos are individual focus binos and they're quite expensive for what you're getting.

Steiners are the best built binos in the world, but you're paying for build quality and they lack in image quality on a dollar for dollar basis.
 

JMapleton

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I have a set of these, and though they cost a lot less than the other two, they have been phenomenal. Redfield is owned by Leupold and they are usually made in the same Portland OR factory - http://www.amazon.com/Redfield-67605...eld+binoculars

Sorry, Redfiels riflescopes are made in the US (at least the housing) but the binos are all made in China. There are almost no binos under $500 not made in China.
 

BrokenVisage

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Nikon Action binos are terrible. They're poro prism, they're going to be fragile and bulky. And they're also very poor in image quality.

Man, a jean AND binocular snob, you're something else. My Nikon's are awesome for what I use them for and I consider them sharp and clear, was reading small signs from 500-1000ft away (est.) and bulkiness is not an issue since they're always on a tripod. Reviews on Amazon back me up, but I also don't look to spend $200+ on binoculars, so at my price point (<$125) how much better can I do than Nikons? Please share.
 

Meractik

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thanks for all the references and suggestions everyone, I read through them and specifically with people referencing how the star gazing and binocular are not mutually exclusive... I understand that... I would only be using it occasionally in very clear skys at night to few stars (just for fun...) If I wanted to get super heavily into star gazing id get a telescope.

Im looking for something that would be mostly used for camping, hiking, and want to use them on a future cruise... to check out land from sea and other boats etc.. but after the cruise more or less would be using them mostly camping/hiking.. Yes, I do wear glasses and my vision is not exactly the best, my left eye drastically over compensates for my right.
 

Meractik

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Man, a jean AND binocular snob, you're something else. My Nikon's are awesome for what I use them for and I consider them sharp and clear, was reading small signs from 500-1000ft away (est.) and bulkiness is not an issue since they're always on a tripod. Reviews on Amazon back me up, but I also don't look to spend $200+ on binoculars, so at my price point (<$125) how much better can I do than Nikons? Please share.

what do you think about these.... reviews seem alright!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A?tag=at055-20

Its not Nikon but upon rethinking my price point taking into consideration how often I would use them....
 

Hugo Drax

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Alkymist has a pair of Swarovski El binoculars he might chime in and provide a review on it. Something about cameltoe watching.
 

marincounty

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Nikons, Action Series, you can't go wrong.

Seconded.
I've had my 7x35 for over 10 years. Still work great. When I hand mine to somebody for them to try they always comment about how clear and undistorted they are.
Best bang for the buck, I got mine for less than $100.
 

BrokenVisage

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what do you think about these.... reviews seem alright!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A?tag=at055-20

Its not Nikon but upon rethinking my price point taking into consideration how often I would use them....

Looks nice for what you want to use it for, though I'd want a little more magnification for star-gazing purposes, would be nice if Amazon was actually selling it and not a 3rd party.
 
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JMapleton

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what do you think about these.... reviews seem alright!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A?tag=at055-20

Its not Nikon but upon rethinking my price point taking into consideration how often I would use them....

Redfield isn't a bad brand. Those would be a much better choice than Nikon Actions or some other bulky poro prism style binoc. If that's what you're looking to spend, those would be a good choice.

Roof prism binocs (straight barreled binocs, like those Redfelds) are much more durable.
 
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