Biologists Observe Gorillas Using Tools

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050930/ap_on_sc/gorilla_tools
For the first time, biologists have documented gorillas in the wild using simple tools, such as poking a stick in a swampy pool of water to check its depth.

Until now, scientists had seen gorillas use tools only in captivity. Among the great apes, tool use in the wild was thought to be a survival skill reserved for smaller chimpanzees and orangutans.

The research in the Republic of Congo's rainforests was led by Thomas Breuer of the Wildlife Conservation Society at the Bronx Zoo, which released details of his study. Breuer is in Africa and was not immediately available for an interview.

"This is a truly astounding discovery," he said in a statement. "Tool usage in wild apes provides us with valuable insights into the evolution of our own species and the abilities of other species."

Other scientists said the observations were important, but not surprising.

Breuer's observations were made late last year in a marshy clearing called Mbeli Baia located in Nouabale-Ndoki National Park where monitoring has been ongoing since February 1995.

The first instance was observed last October when a female gorilla (nicknamed Leah by scientists) attempted to wade through a pool of water created by elephants, but found herself waist deep after only a few steps. Climbing out of the pool, she retrieved a branch from a dead tree and used the stick to test the depth of the water.

In November, a second female gorilla (named Efi) used a detached tree trunk to support herself with one hand while digging for herbs with the other hand. She also used the tree trunk as a bridge to cross a muddy patch of ground.


Details of the findings are being published in the online journal PLoS (Public Library of Science) Biology. Video of the gorillas will be broadcast Saturday on the PBS program "Wild Chronicles."

Fairly or not, gorillas have been considered less capable than other great apes, in part because they have not been as extensively studied.

Chimps, for example, have been continuously observed in the field for 40 years since Jane Goodall launched her landmark study at Gombe Stream in Tanzania. They have become stars of television documentaries and glossy magazine articles, displaying their extensive of use of rocks to break open hard-shelled nuts and sticks to "fish" termites from mounds.

In contrast, gorillas are much larger, stronger and slower.

"Chimps are portrayed as the super-ape and gorillas are the big brutes in the forest," said Richard Carroll, a primate expert and director of the Africa program at the World Wildlife Fund in Washington, D.C. He has conducted gorilla field studies since 1980. He did not contribute to Breuer's report.

"Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps ? they can just smash open the termite nest," said Carroll, who a decade ago reported observing gorillas using sticks to ward off attacking leopards.

"New studies like this show that especially lowland gorillas are very chimplike in their abilities," he said.

Carroll said the new study was made possible by the establishment of protected parks in Congo by agreements between conservation groups, international agencies and the government. The populations of gorillas and other great apes are severely imperiled by logging, hunting and outbreaks of the Ebola virus. And, civil war in Congo has made field science dangerous for years.

"It's a tribute to conservation efforts that allow people to sit and observe and not be in fear of their lives," he said.
Pretty cool observations in the field. Seeing something like this in the field is a rare thing. Makes me wonder what other things the great apes are capable of doing. Just wait until they create fire or, better yet, microwave ovens.
 

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I thought this was going to be about a sighting of the use of the President's Veto Pen.
 

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I wonder what life will be like on earth in a million years or so. Will great apes have evolved to be a free-willed species competing with humans? Will someone in the future find a copy of Planet of the Apes and think someone went back in time and left it?
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Pretty cool observations in the field. Seeing something like this in the field is a rare thing. Makes me wonder what other things the great apes are capable of doing. Just wait until they create fire or, better yet, microwave ovens.

There are some serious questions whether this is actually tool use or not. Many developmental psychologists would say that it is not, while most anthropologists believe that it is. The problem lies in defining just what is a tool. Too broad a definition and we find all types of things using tools, like birds and insects. Too specific and we end up with a definition designed to make sure that only humans can use tools.
The last time I studied this field the accepted definition was as follows:
?An object that has been modified to be used at a distant time and on objects not now perceptually present."
With this definition we know that some animals do use tools, but the requirement is strict enough that we can feel confident that they know what they are doing and not simply hitting it with a stick until something happens.
 

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Standing upright frees the hands to use and make tools. Tools help catch prey and high protein meat fuels brain size increases. Of course this is the current "theory", I kind of just like the story of the naked incestuous kids in the garden who talk to snakes.
 

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By the definition used here, I've seen dogs use tools. Why would it be surprising for a gorilla?
 

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Originally posted by: glugglug
By the definition used here, I've seen dogs use tools. Why would it be surprising for a gorilla?

my dog does an admirable job licking his tool. I've never seen him smoke a cig or drink a bud light though
 

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Originally posted by: NoSmirk
I fully expected this thread to be about the radical left using their tool Cindy Sheehan.

I'm not sure who you were before the ban, but leave now and spare us.
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Koko and other gorillas talk
Another gorilla avatar and another good link.


:beer:

Koko is a scam. Most of the tricks that Koko does for the media is nothing more then the product of pavlovian conditioning. They almost never let her tricks be evaluated by scientists, and most of her tricks are not able to be reproduced by credible sources.
 

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Next they'll be using tools to bash one another's brains in. Just like in the movie 2001 they will become more like humans.
 

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Originally posted by: NoSmirk
I fully expected this thread to be about the radical left using their tool Cindy Sheehan.
Yes, yes, she's certainly been carefully scripted . . . NOT.

Her losing a son in your holy war and then abrubtly refusing to bend down anymore to your boy emperor really gets under your obsequious court enuch's skin, doesn't it?

Keep attacking her, it makes you look all manly and right.

 

sandorski

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These gorillas were seen checking the depth of water in front of them amongst other things. I'd say that's tool use.
 

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Originally posted by: NoSmirk
I fully expected this thread to be about the radical left using their tool Cindy Sheehan.

And instead you found intelligent and scientific discussion...not sure how to deal with that, are you? Just make your wisecrack and leave, we understand
 

mect

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: NoSmirk
I fully expected this thread to be about the radical left using their tool Cindy Sheehan.

And instead you found intelligent and scientific discussion...not sure how to deal with that, are you? Just make your wisecrack and leave, we understand

Missed this one though.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I thought this was going to be about a sighting of the use of the President's Veto Pen.

And this one.

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Don't insult gorillas like that.

Anyway, I'm rather skeptical of this. The supporting on the tree trunk seems valid, as does the use of a tree trunk to cross a muddy patch of ground. I've seen dogs do things just as impressive though. I'll admit that testing the depth of water with a brach is a little more impressive, but note the words "seemed to use it to test the water depth or substrate stability: she grasped the stick firmly and repeatedly prodded the water in front of her with the end of the stick." Also, as pointed out earlier, they use a rather loose term of the word tool in the article. Don't get me wrong, this is still an interesting observation, but I'm not expecting to see it published in Science or Nature.
 

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I'm not surprised, actually. Gorillas are rather difficult to study, for a number or reasons, not the least of which is their sheer size, but they have been known to demonstrate capabilities similar to chimps and orangutans. If the U.S. had the guts to bring some order to the Congo, we could possibly see some dramatic (and important) advancements in the field of great ape behavior.

I'm thoroughly amazed, however, at the abilities of these animals to understand complex, abstract thought, not to mention their language abilities. It is widely believed, for example, that all four species of great apes have a definite sense of object permanence. Along with african greys, those five species seem to be the most intelligent non-humans on the planet. How strange that of those five, the greys, which are least like us, demonstrate the most impressive ability of all: we can communicate with them, and they with us, in spoken English!

But I am happy that we are continuing research in this area, albeit with limited progress.
 
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