Jaskalas

Lifer
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Nephew: George W. Bush may vote for Clinton
George P. Bush said Tuesday that his uncle, former President George W. Bush, may join his grandfather George H.W. Bush in casting his ballots for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, according to the Associated Press.

A ruse? Not if it lines up with other information.
MSNBC is the only, as far as I can tell, the only source reporting this.
That not only are 28% of republicans crossing over for Hillary, but that Trump has already in fact lost Florida.
And the minority vote is way up compared to 2012, with democrats holding solid behind Hillary.

Hillary's vote for Iraq shows a character trait that's paying off in dividends now! Libya and Syria indicate that it's a consistent pattern of common interest. Neocons know who their candidate is, and will be voting accordingly. Wall Street nods at the idea of the status quo, how about you? Any anti-war protestors left?

I wonder how many people here, once railed against that agenda, now support it and its candidates.
 
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bshole

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Nephew: George W. Bush may vote for Clinton


A ruse? Not if it lines up with other information.


Hillary's vote for Iraq shows a character trait that's paying off in dividends now! Libya and Syria indicate that it's a consistent pattern of common interest. Neocons know who their candidate is, and will be voting accordingly. Wall Street nods at the idea of the status quo, how about you? Any anti-war protestors left?

I wonder how many people here, once railed against that agenda, now support it and its candidates.

What exactly are the differences between the Clintons and the Bushes?
I am familiar with most of the commonalities.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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You could assume that they think she is a neocon the way you do. You could also assume they just recognize Trump is unfit to become President. Only one of these assumptions will make you seem like a drooling retard.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Nephew: George W. Bush may vote for Clinton


A ruse? Not if it lines up with other information.


Hillary's vote for Iraq shows a character trait that's paying off in dividends now! Libya and Syria indicate that it's a consistent pattern of common interest. Neocons know who their candidate is, and will be voting accordingly. Wall Street nods at the idea of the status quo, how about you? Any anti-war protestors left?

I wonder how many people here, once railed against that agenda, now support it and its candidates.

It's important to remember that the most full throated neoconservative in this election is Donald Trump. He has literally called for an invasion of Syria similar to the GWB invasion of Iraq. Why do you continue to ignore this?

In addition, GHWB is voting for Clinton as well and he is EASILY the best Republican president of the modern era. He's usually held up as what people wish Republicans would get back to being.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I'll take a little war overseas vs inside America any day of the week.

That's not to say I like war or our people ending up wounded, dying and disabled but better overseas than here.

I think that a war in the USA is inevitable unless we divide the country. It's saddening that people call Obama who has kept us out of war for the most part for his 8 years the worst POTUS and a pussy if you go on fox news.
 

Jhhnn

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I'll take a little war overseas vs inside America any day of the week.

That's not to say I like war or our people ending up wounded, dying and disabled but better overseas than here.

I think that a war in the USA is inevitable unless we divide the country. It's saddening that people call Obama who has kept us out of war for the most part for his 8 years the worst POTUS and a pussy if you go on fox news.

Bullshit. I'm not prepared to abandon any Americans to the tender mercies of the drooling pseudo christian idiots & alt-right power freaks among us. We're better than that.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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It's important to remember that the most full throated neoconservative in this election is Donald Trump. He has literally called for an invasion of Syria similar to the GWB invasion of Iraq. Why do you continue to ignore this?

Because Hillary hate is a blinding force & an all consuming passion. It's like Jihad & speaking in tongues, only different.

In addition, GHWB is voting for Clinton as well and he is EASILY the best Republican president of the modern era. He's usually held up as what people wish Republicans would get back to being.
 

fskimospy

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Because Hillary hate is a blinding force & an all consuming passion. It's like Jihad & speaking in tongues, only different.

The cognitive dissonance is amazing. Trump has literally called for another invasion of a middle eastern country involving tens of thousands of troops but people keep saying they think Clinton is the warmonger.

That means either they think nothing Trump says should be believed, in which case, holy shit, or they have somehow convinced themselves that this is less warmonger-y than bombing Libya.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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The cognitive dissonance is amazing. Trump has literally called for another invasion of a middle eastern country involving tens of thousands of troops but people keep saying they think Clinton is the warmonger.

That means either they think nothing Trump says should be believed, in which case, holy shit, or they have somehow convinced themselves that this is less warmonger-y than bombing Libya.

Trumpism is the result of decades of right wing propagandists' very successful effort to scramble people's mental processes. Their basic attitudes have been poisoned.

They're victims, something they can't even begin to comprehend.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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Because Hillary hate is a blinding force & an all consuming passion. It's like Jihad & speaking in tongues, only different.

Yes it is.

U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-militia-idUSKBN12X11R

"We've building up for this, just like the Marines," he said. "We are going to really train harder and try to increase our operational capabilities in the event that this is the day that we hoped would never come."

Give me a break.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Bullshit. I'm not prepared to abandon any Americans to the tender mercies of the drooling pseudo christian idiots & alt-right power freaks among us. We're better than that.

Are we? We were stupid enough to elect Bush not once but twice..
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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The cognitive dissonance is amazing. Trump has literally called for another invasion of a middle eastern country involving tens of thousands of troops but people keep saying they think Clinton is the warmonger.

That means either they think nothing Trump says should be believed, in which case, holy shit, or they have somehow convinced themselves that this is less warmonger-y than bombing Libya.

I think most if not all of the Trump supporters have long ago acquired the uncanny ability to filter out the really stupid things he's been saying every hour on the hour as if he never said it and have exclusively tuned in on the empty meaningless red meat rhetoric and whatever Hillary hate Trump manages to squeeze out of his ass.
 

Balt

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Mar 12, 2000
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What exactly are the differences between the Clintons and the Bushes?
I am familiar with most of the commonalities.

Rather than write a list, let me answer your question with a question.

Do you think Hillary and George W. Bush would nominate the same justices for the Supreme Court?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I see nothing of policy in my Facebook feed from Trump supporters. Just shit like Hillary created ISIS, she married a rapist, she murdered people, immigrants are the devil, etc...

It's just sad shit and a testament to how many f'in stupid people are in this country.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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You could also assume they just recognize Trump is unfit to become President.

What about you, dear voter?
Democrats chose Hillary long before Trump became a nightmare.
I use the Neocon's support of her in parallel with her vote and her actions as Secretary to finish painting the picture.

Do you oppose Hillary Clinton on foreign policy?
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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What about you, dear voter?
Democrats chose Hillary long before Trump became a nightmare.
I use the Neocon's support of her in parallel with her vote and her actions as Secretary to finish painting the picture.

Do you oppose Hillary Clinton on foreign policy?

Do you oppose Trump on foreign policy ?

Your links in your signature seem odd, but that is beside the point.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I'll take a little war overseas vs inside America any day of the week.

That's not to say I like war or our people ending up wounded, dying and disabled but better overseas than here.

I think that a war in the USA is inevitable unless we divide the country. It's saddening that people call Obama who has kept us out of war for the most part for his 8 years the worst POTUS and a pussy if you go on fox news.

We have actually been at war for the last 8 years also. We still are.

Ask some of our service members that are still over there.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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We have actually been at war for the last 8 years also. We still are.

Ask some of our service members that are still over there.

Sure but are you seeing 100+ American military being killed a month?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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What about you, dear voter?
Democrats chose Hillary long before Trump became a nightmare.
I use the Neocon's support of her in parallel with her vote and her actions as Secretary to finish painting the picture.

Do you oppose Hillary Clinton on foreign policy?
Trump was a fucking nightmare long before he ever threw his hat in the ring. I'm not sure how your first statement even relates to your conclusion that Hillary is a Neocon.

The fact of the matter is that Hillary or Trump WILL be your next President. If you really want to avoid as much war as possible like you love to claim, you should recognize that Hillary would be leaps and bounds better than Trump.
 
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