Bit Torrent lagging computer/network

PicHold

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I think it has something to do with my raid0 setup. I'm running 2x 74gb raptors.

Symptoms: when bit torrent (tried azureus, and utorrent. happens in both instances) is running, it tends to bog down my computer, and oftentimes disconnect me from my active connections to the internet even.

I'm about to reload, but wanted to know if I should be setting the raid0 any differently, or not even waste my time with it.

Thanks in advance.
 

mgob

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azureaus would or could due to it's love for eating up memory, utorrent should not so that is odd...
 

PicHold

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yeah, I'm aware of all that.

System shouldn't be doing it at all. I'm running a 3700xp san diego, 1gb ram, the raptors, and a 7800gt. SHOULD be able to run uTorrent no problem

And I run the same programs at work and connect remotely to it and have no issues. I first noticed this problem when at work, connecting to home remotely, and losing connection if torrents were up. And I DO have my bandwidth capped on it, so it's not eating up all my upstream.

This leads me to believe its my raid array.
 

bfonnes

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Originally posted by: PicHold
yeah, I'm aware of all that.

System shouldn't be doing it at all. I'm running a 3700xp san diego, 1gb ram, the raptors, and a 7800gt. SHOULD be able to run uTorrent no problem

And I run the same programs at work and connect remotely to it and have no issues. I first noticed this problem when at work, connecting to home remotely, and losing connection if torrents were up. And I DO have my bandwidth capped on it, so it's not eating up all my upstream.

This leads me to believe its my raid array.

maybe you're being port scanned... I remember a few years back when I first got DSL, the first time I logged onto Kazaa, someone immediately started spamming my network.

BFonnes
 

PicHold

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I am behind a router and have peer guardian running.

Oh and to elaborate on why I think it is a HDD issue---
I was using my laptop connect remotely to my desktop, and lost connection since BT was running. When I lost connection, I could no longer hear read/write sounds on the drives, as if they had nearly powered down. So it seems like its hiccupping or something.
 

0roo0roo

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flooding the network upload to max = slow
global connections beyond routers abilitys = slow + disconnects
weee!
 

PicHold

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Yes, but everything I have done with this computer I have done the same thing to the one before it. (software wise) The main difference is I'm using raid0 now, and not a single raptor.
 

Sqube

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Maybe you should tell us about your internet connection, seeing as this is primarily a connectivity issue (your opinion about the hard drive being the root cause notwithstanding). I know that, ever since I installed Service Pack 2, trying to download too much -- or trying to open too many web pages at once, for that matter -- seems to knock my internet connection out every time. I'm using ADSL and I don't have a RAID set up for my two hard drives.

Oh yeah, and I'm using BitComet as my BitTorrent downloading program.

Tell us about your internet connection; provider, up/down rates, your modem make+model, the works.
 

PicHold

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Like I said, I've used the same internet/router on my previous computer which didn't use raid.

It's comcast, basic cable/internet package.

Internet/webpages will be working fine. Once I turn on BT, my computer starts to bog down. It bogs down so much, it loses connection to the internet. I don't really know how to explain it.

And also, my other computer which is accessing the internet from the router does not lose its connection while this is happening to mine. So it's not a network issue imo.
 

ribbon13

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Comcast definately has clamps down in place for BT users. Was your laptop using VPN or some other remote connection that relied on the internet? If the comcast neighborhood portal shut your connection down because you're using BT, that would explain everything I'd imagine.
 

PicHold

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I was using my laptop via LAN, not wireless.
And again I say, I have used bit torrent on previous computers without this issue. It really isn't strictly a network issue. I am quite positive its having to do with my raid setup.
 

ribbon13

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well than
DETAILS

what firmwares are your raptors?
what is your RAID controller? driver version?
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: PicHold
I was using my laptop via LAN, not wireless.
And again I say, I have used bit torrent on previous computers without this issue.
Maybe Comcast put their new policy in place about the same time you got your new computer.
 

Bozo Galora

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there has now been revealed a NF2-3-4 bittorrent issue, and a large file download issue
you didnt reveal mobo involved
has to do with NV armour and PCI/PCI-E bandwidth conflicts and the nvidia IDE drivers and onboard ethernet issues - stuff I'd never heard about, tho I never ever install nvidia IDE

http://techreport.com/ja.zz?comments=8989

You have to read all 131 comments - which means opening a lot of lined posts

Also a guy on another forum just posted that he was forced to add some capping software to his PC with the $14.95 mo SBC Yahoo DSL deal because his use was "excessive".
 

PicHold

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Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
there has now been revealed a NF2-3-4 bittorrent issue, and a large file download issue
you didnt reveal mobo involved
has to do with NV armour and PCI/PCI-E bandwidth conflicts and the nvidia IDE drivers and onboard ethernet issues - stuff I'd never heard about, tho I never ever install nvidia IDE

http://techreport.com/ja.zz?comments=8989

You have to read all 131 comments - which means opening a lot of lined posts

Also a guy on another forum just posted that he was forced to add some capping software to his PC with the $14.95 mo SBC Yahoo DSL deal because his use was "excessive".

This sounds feasible. However, I tried simply copying large files back and forth on my hard disk, and it didn't happen.

The motherboard is DFI Lanparty, GPU is a 7800gt. So yeah, sounds like that could be it.
 

PicHold

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Any other advice?

Couldn't really find anything specific to my problem on that 136 page topic.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
flooding the network upload to max = slow
global connections beyond routers abilitys = slow + disconnects
weee!

am behind a router and have peer guardian running.
----doesn`tmean you can`t be port scanned......
In fact that doesn`t protect you from being DOSsed....
There is actually no protection from being DOSsed unless you just do not hook up to the internet..lol
 

bigboxes

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I've been using bittorrent for a few years now and I have experienced what you describe. I figured out that it was not the downloads, but rather the uploads that were causing my system to crawl. My solution was to use a proggie called NetLimiter and restrict my total UL speed for bittorrent. It might slow down my DLs is some cases, but it's the price I am willing to pay to keep my pc usable.
 

PicHold

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Originally posted by: bigboxes
I've been using bittorrent for a few years now and I have experienced what you describe. I figured out that it was not the downloads, but rather the uploads that were causing my system to crawl. My solution was to use a proggie called NetLimiter and restrict my total UL speed for bittorrent. It might slow down my DLs is some cases, but it's the price I am willing to pay to keep my pc usable.

Most BT clients have upload capping. And as stated above, I already do this. If you max out your upload OR download you will make your overall internet connection suffer. That is not what I'm describing really. My whole computer starts to bog down, and didn't when I was running one HD. So, I'm somewhat convinced it has to do with the raid. As for NetLimiter, I already use that as well.
 
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