Bitcoin is on fire again

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bbhaag

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I cashed out half my coins earlier tonight. These prices are crazy.
 

BikeJunkie

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So let me ask what may be a very stupid question: for anyone who has zero investment in bitcoins or the mining thereof today, why wouldn't someone prefer to ride the ups and downs of a bitcoin's value over investing in hardware that is 100% certain to rapidly depreciate due to exponentially increasing difficulty?
 
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So let me ask what may be a very stupid question: for anyone who has zero investment in bitcoins or the mining thereof today, why wouldn't someone prefer to ride the ups and downs of a bitcoin's value over investing in hardware that is 100% certain to rapidly depreciate due to exponentially increasing difficulty?

that's what most of the smart money is doing.
 

mmntech

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I've got a friend who's all into bitcoins. His online business even accepts them now. Keeps trying to sell me on them but I'm not buying. It's a currency not backed by anything, with an arbitrary value, and it seems damn easy to hack peoples wallets.

I'll probably be eating crow in a few years for saying this, but bitcoins to me are the next big dotcom bubble.
 

Crono

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Aug 8, 2001
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I've got a friend who's all into bitcoins. His online business even accepts them now. Keeps trying to sell me on them but I'm not buying. It's a currency not backed by anything, with an arbitrary value, and it seems damn easy to hack peoples wallets.

I'll probably be eating crow in a few years for saying this, but bitcoins to me are the next big dotcom bubble.

Every currency is a bubble at some point. All currencies and economies fail.
 

gorobei

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Jan 7, 2007
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what's the best or easiest way to cash out some btc now? or get a gift card for amazon/newegg?
 

Crusty

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Sep 30, 2001
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The fed is going to shut Bitcoin down after they are done with Liberty Reserve trial. They won't allow any currency/banking system that doesn't leave a money trail.

But bitcoins DO leave a money trail.

They are just as trackable as cold hard cash is if not moreso.
 

AnonymouseUser

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I responded in another thread, but figured I would share my thoughts here as well:

It's only $.43 per mBTC, I feel the price is extremely reasonable and sane

I wouldn't count on it crashing. It might crash, or this might just be a bump before heading to $2000.

Historically, each run up bitcoin value has gone up tremendously. In comparison, simply going from $250 up to $450 is a relatively small jump in value.

$1 high, crash to $.50.

$32 high (60X higher than previous low), crash to $4 (higher than previous high)

$260 high (65X previous crash low), crash to $50 (higher than previous high)

$450 high? (9X higher than previous crash low point). Maybe, but I think value could potentially go a LOT higher before the next crash. If it follows past patterns, I'd expect to see a value around $2500 before crashing to around $900.

Meh, doesn't really matter to me. I think that most evidence points to the idea that simply holding your bitcoin for the next 10 years is a much better idea than cashing out at any given price.
Agreed. If and when it crashes I doubt it will drop below $200 ever again, and it's far from a big gain yet.

The problem most people have is looking at the wrong chart. You need to look at the weekly chart, logarithmic scale, to see how small the gain really is right now. It has potential to hit $1000 within weeks, but you definitely need to protect your investment and not jump in 100% right now. If BTC breaks above $448 soon, jump in and hang on for the ride, but don't hold if it crashes below $400 afterwards.

Take a look at this chart (weekly, logarithmic scale) and you'll see it's only closed below the 25-week moving average once. It's a beautiful chart, and it may even be forming a pennant formation right now which is a continuation pattern for when it breaks above it's most recent high.

Here's the latest 1hr chart, showing the formation of the pennant:



My short term price target, if BTC breaks $448 (Mtgox) within the next few days, is $660. Don't be afraid to buy if it breaks out, but don't hold for too long if it crashes below $400!
 

Bubbleawsome

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Apr 14, 2013
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I almost got into this in 2011, kinda regret no doing it. Meh. Once I build a new PC I might use my current one for this stuff, maybe give it until the big crash, and just wait, and wait. This stuff comes and goes. F@H is a better use for an idle PC if you only have one IMHO.
 

John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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I just bought an ASIC to get my feet wet in mining. I haven't even hooked it up to my old Dell laptop yet. LOL
 

AnonymouseUser

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Sheesh, $567, and BTC China is @ $580! This is starting to get out of hand, so don't feel bad taking some profits to protect against a drop.
 

Doppel

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No doubt a ton of people are making money now IF they sell.

The crash is going to be absolutely catastrophic to people who get greedy. It's going to crash incredibly hard and fast. Some poor sucker is out there now telling himself that although he didn't get into bitcoin earlier, by golly he's going to now. A lot of people like him will get buggered when it starts to fall and they're left holding the bag. Remember the adage bulls and bears make money, pigs get slaughtered.

Case in point this:
I think that most evidence points to the idea that simply holding your bitcoin for the next 10 years is a much better idea than cashing out at any given price.
Is greedy talk.
don't feel bad taking some profits to protect against a drop
And this isn't.
 
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