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MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
No, the stars are not being sucked in. If they were, they wouldn't disappear. To us, they would stop right at the event horizon (the point at which light can no longer escape).

It looks like the light is just being heavily distorted by the hole.

Actually, time only ceases from the perspective of the object being sucked in. Thus, to the stars, they would stop at the event horizon. To us, they would be sucked in. That's why black holes are black... if we could see everything that stopped at the event horizon they would be pretty bright.
 

silverpig

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Okay, this is from an astrophysics major here:

1. Black holes don't suck things in anymore than a planet or a star would. It's not like they just sit there and suck up space or something. Treat them just as you would any other massive object like a planet, star, or person, but with stronger gravity. You can orbit a black hole indefinitely with no problems just as the earth can orbit the sun. In fact, if all you did was compress the sun down to a small enough radius instantaneously and turned it into a black hole the earth's orbit wouldn't change. We'd all die cause we weren't getting any light/heat anymore, but our frozen corpses would still be circling the sun like we are now.

2. There most certainly is some gravitational lensing effects going on there, but only for the stars which are behind the black hole as viewed from our perspective. This effect would make it seem as though the star was farther from our line of sight to the black hole than it really was though.

3. What's so confusing about the stars' motions? They're random because they interact with each other as well as with the black hole. If you've ever seen a 3-body gravitational simulation you know how chaotic 3 bodies can be... Now imagine 10.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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My assumption was that the various stars were orbiting around the black hole and/or various other things, and that that, along with the gravitational effects of the various masses flying around, was causing them to move in strange directions. (and I was thinking that before I saw silverpig's post, I swear )
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: MacBaine


Actually, time only ceases from the perspective of the object being sucked in. Thus, to the stars, they would stop at the event horizon. To us, they would be sucked in. That's why black holes are black... if we could see everything that stopped at the event horizon they would be pretty bright.

I think that time ceases from the perspective of the observer on Earth. The gravitational time dilation would make time pass more quickly for the object near the horizon. Once you touch the horizon, time travels infinitely fast.

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