Black kids getting in trouble three times as often as white kids

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alcoholbob

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So whats the big deal? If you take any ethnic group and survey them against another random group there will be group differences, including crime rates. There are also ethnic groups in this country that have lower rate of crime than whites but nobody talks about that. Liberal agenda for bigger government and more taxes, as usual. If you follow the money trail, at the end of this is some company trying to get government favors to stamp out its competitors.
 

Moonbeam

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I told the black people in my neighborhood they were worthless shiftless nblack bums and one of them shot my pit bull. I don't understand that kind of mentality. Nobody can convince me that centuries of putting black people down would ever have any affect. I refuse to believe that black culture has been damaged by centuries of slavery. And anyway it's not my fault and I don't own anybody anything just because I grew up in a healthy culture and inherited millions from folk who had a pot to piss in. Fuck everybody. Nobody is fucking with my ego.
 

irishScott

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Interesting note: children with objective disabilities are diagnosed with them at roughly the same rate across all racial groups. Disorders that require subjective assessment are found vastly more often in black and Hispanic children, even when controlling for other factors like geography, poverty, etc.

It is probably rap's fault.

"Subjective" doesn't mean nonexistent. I remember a good TED talk about depression, and the speaker mentioned an experiment where a psychiatrist gave inner-city, ghetto people free treatment for 6 months. A lot of those people went from being absolute deadbeats to significantly turning their lives around. Their lives had sucked so much before they didn't even have a frame of reference to realize there was a problem.

Thus we get the perpetual cycle of abuse associated with "ghetto" families.
 

TreVader

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"Subjective" doesn't mean nonexistent. I remember a good TED talk about depression, and the speaker mentioned an experiment where a psychiatrist gave inner-city, ghetto people free treatment for 6 months. A lot of those people went from being absolute deadbeats to significantly turning their lives around. Their lives had sucked so much before they didn't even have a frame of reference to realize there was a problem.

Thus we get the perpetual cycle of abuse associated with "ghetto" families.

Subjective doesn't exist? Well now, aren't you the new age philosopher. You go from statistics, to biology, to philosophy in your amazing presentation on how to sound like a racist douchebag!



I'll tell you, it's a riveting performance.


You might want to consider that irish people aren't exactly native and aren't exactly wanted here by most people
 

finglobes

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Blacks and (especially) Hispanics have much higher rates of PTSD in military even when type of exposures are the same. This is because very early they learn to be overreactive to the excessive stresses they are subject to (at home and in the general environemnt). Hispanics even take their emotionality as a symbol of their culture. Its actually dangerous psychologically.
 

CanOWorms

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A lot of it is likely due to white privilege. When the teaching staff and administration don't really want to connect with you, you have less mentoring than the white students.

We need to get rid of Klan kulture.
 

SheHateMe

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This is because black people have a special "angry" gene that nobody else has. We all just have a little Bruce Banner inside of us waiting for the right person to step on our Jordans so we can turn green and fuck shit up.
 

Greenman

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A lot of it is likely due to white privilege. When the teaching staff and administration don't really want to connect with you, you have less mentoring than the white students.

We need to get rid of Klan kulture.

Why does it have to be someone else's fault? Isn't it possible that it's an issue with upbringing, or perhaps a predisposition to a more rebellious behavior?
I find it odd that so many people automatically assume that the problem is external rather than internal.
 

CanOWorms

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Why does it have to be someone else's fault? Isn't it possible that it's an issue with upbringing, or perhaps a predisposition to a more rebellious behavior?
I find it odd that so many people automatically assume that the problem is external rather than internal.

It can be an issue with upbringing. That's what my example is about. The white students might get access to more of that because the teachers and administrators feel more kinship with them and mentor them, don't punish them disproportionately, etc.. A black parent might need to spend a lot more time than a white parent on upbringing because the white parent can rely on white privilege.

We need to break the cycle of Klan kulture.
 

positivedoppler

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It can be an issue with upbringing. That's what my example is about. The white students might get access to more of that because the teachers and administrators feel more kinship with them and mentor them, don't punish them disproportionately, etc.. A black parent might need to spend a lot more time than a white parent on upbringing because the white parent can rely on white privilege.

We need to break the cycle of Klan kulture.

You are assuming that teachers and administrators spend more time on white students than black students. What do you have to support this or is this speculation?
 

Spungo

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I wonder what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will say about this...

"give me more money"

Crime among black people is a relatively new thing. So is unemployment and single motherhood. Back during the days of hardcore racism and segregation, black men actually had lower rates of unemployment than white men. Black men were family men, and they took care of their kids. Black men wanted to attend university. They fought hard for the right to become educated.

This is 100% caused by the government. The government destroys everything it touches. The government causes black (and white) unemployment because the government enthusiastically pays people not to work. The government is the cause of roughly 1/2 of all black children having a single mother because the government reduces welfare benefits if a woman is married. Black people are thriving in the fields where they receive no "help" from the government. Does the government try to promote rap music or jazz music? No. The government has a history of trying to fight against rap and jazz music. Does the government promote black comedians? Does the government push for more black people in basketball or football? No, and that's why black men do exceedingly well in those fields. Black people thrive when the government gets out of their way.
 

Svnla

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From the article:

Advocates long have said get-tough suspension and arrest policies in schools have contributed to a "school-to-prison" pipeline that snags minority students

Asian students are doing very well in school, even better than white students in many cases. So much for the "minority students" pathetic excuse. How about going to school to study? Shocking eh?
 

CanOWorms

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You are assuming that teachers and administrators spend more time on white students than black students. What do you have to support this or is this speculation?

No, I'm not assuming that even though I'm not sure what type of activities you're referring to. From the article, it seems like they're spending more time on disproportionately punishing the black students though. This Klan Kulture nonsense has to stop.
 

notposting

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No, I'm not assuming that even though I'm not sure what type of activities you're referring to. From the article, it seems like they're spending more time on disproportionately punishing the black students though. This Klan Kulture nonsense has to stop.

And the kids listen and respond when administrators and teachers try to assist and well, teach, right? Drop this BS Klan Kulture drivel you're spouting. If they don't want to learn, they won't. Pure and simple.
 

CanOWorms

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And the kids listen and respond when administrators and teachers try to assist and well, teach, right? Drop this BS Klan Kulture drivel you're spouting. If they don't want to learn, they won't. Pure and simple.

Yes. The key phrase is "try to assist and... teach." Klan Kulture prevents being able to empathize with others who are perceived to be from a different demographic and therefore the assist and teach part is forgotten. Rather, it's all about punishment.

Pre-school children should not be suspended. They should be assisted and taught.
 

Zaap

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Asian students are doing very well in school, even better than white students in many cases. So much for the "minority students" pathetic excuse. How about going to school to study? Shocking eh?
becuz... Asian privilege!

(You know, like being exploited as railroad gangs, only hired as cooks, housekeepers, or laundry, and the great privlidge of being interned during WWII.)

Its always humorous to me how the left's idiotic P.C. conflict of always having to pretend culture doesn't matter makes them sputter around with such an inability to acknowledge the obvious when it comes to topics like this. It is pretty entertaining though.
 

Geosurface

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There are an awful lot of people in this thread and in our society in general who need to brace themselves for a very, very dramatic and thorough refutation of their entire worldview courtesy of rapidly advancing science. More than enough mainstream studies already exist but the ability to keep their implications out of the public discourse is going to be less and less as the number of studies and discoveries mounts, which it does every day.

Biology is destiny, and it looms larger and varies more widely than almost anyone currently imagines.

Here's a good video from an Australian biologist who goes into many of the discoveries which show that absolutely everything about our behavior, tendencies, demeanor, fidelity in marriage... EVERYTHING is biologically influenced.

Culture is biology's bitch. In a very real sense, culture is just another manifestation of biology.
 
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The_AC

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There are an awful lot of people in this thread and in our society in general who need to brace themselves for a very, very dramatic and thorough refutation of their entire worldview courtesy of rapidly advancing science. More than enough mainstream studies already exist but the ability to keep their implications out of the public discourse is going to be less and less as the number of studies and discoveries mounts, which it does every day.

Biology is destiny, and it looms larger and varies more widely than almost anyone currently imagines.

Here's a good video from an Australian biologist who goes into many of the discoveries which show that absolutely everything about our behavior, tendencies, demeanor, fidelity in marriage... EVERYTHING is biologically influenced.

Culture is biology's bitch. In a very real sense, culture is just another manifestation of biology.

"Be quiet you evil bigot, circumstances of birth have nothing to do with how people act/behave!

Well, except for whether or not they're gay. Or whether or not they're transgender."
 

Greenman

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It can be an issue with upbringing. That's what my example is about. The white students might get access to more of that because the teachers and administrators feel more kinship with them and mentor them, don't punish them disproportionately, etc.. A black parent might need to spend a lot more time than a white parent on upbringing because the white parent can rely on white privilege.

We need to break the cycle of Klan kulture.

I find the term "klan Kulture" off putting, and somewhat insulting. The entire point of it is to instill an emotional response through implied racism. So the next question is, why is this my fault? Why is it that I have culpability for a situation I had no part in creating? Why do you believe that white culture is the root of the problem, and black culture is blameless?
Slogans and catch phrases aren't going to provide any solution, and in fact are probably going to exacerbate the situation by diverting attention from the real problem.
 

CanOWorms

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I find the term "klan Kulture" off putting, and somewhat insulting. The entire point of it is to instill an emotional response through implied racism. So the next question is, why is this my fault? Why is it that I have culpability for a situation I had no part in creating? Why do you believe that white culture is the root of the problem, and black culture is blameless?
Slogans and catch phrases aren't going to provide any solution, and in fact are probably going to exacerbate the situation by diverting attention from the real problem.

I have no idea how you're reaching those questions. That's a huge leap.
 

Sulaco

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Yes. The key phrase is "try to assist and... teach." Klan Kulture prevents being able to empathize with others who are perceived to be from a different demographic and therefore the assist and teach part is forgotten. Rather, it's all about punishment.

Pre-school children should not be suspended. They should be assisted and taught.

The problem with your nonsense, despite being obviously baseless and emotionally charged to elicit a subconscious reaction ("Klan Kulture" ? Grow up.), is that if "White Privilege" is to blame, then explain Asian (and near Asian) students.

As has already been mentioned, which you coincidentally failed to address, is that Asian students perform by large far better than even white students. Many of whom come from entirely different cultural and language backgrounds, posing even more of a hurdle than any perceived racism or slight.
Of course, this trend also encompasses multiple ethnic, racial, and cultural student groups; including Middle-Eastern students, Indians and Pakistanis, and East Asians as well (Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc)

Yet the excuses are not there. The grades and the results are.
 
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