Yes.
Go away.
If the prospect for a career and good life arent enough for someone to get good grades and not turn to drugs, then they are just going to continue the cycle.
Yes.
Yes.
I will point out that American black slaves were NEVER bred. Not in the sense that some slave owner said, hrrmmm, that one looks strong so I will have him mate with that strong looking female there.
No, they are physically stronger because of the hardship they had to survive. You ever watch Roots? Basically slavers caught all they could, usually warriors from tribes, and shipped them across the Atlantic. The problem is, only the strong would live through this trip. Those not physically strong ended up dead. Then after coming to America, those not strong enough for labor were not bought. Those not bought were basically executed. For a few hundred years, it was basically only the strong that lived and thus were able to mate. Everything else got weeded out. While you were somewhat right, I wanted to point out the real reason for the black dominance in American sports.
lol @ classy ignoring the fact Asians are minorities and saying they don't count. I know and have met a LOT of Asian immigrants, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc. most came over and worked their way up, they weren't in "white areas" fuckin a and even if they are they're CRAMMED. Fuck most my friends in high school were Korean and had a minimum of like 6 people living together.
Go away.
If the prospect for a career and good life arent enough for someone to get good grades and not turn to drugs, then they are just going to continue the cycle.
You're speaking as an adult that is capable of understanding that your actions have long-term consequences. Many of the kids that ultimately end up in jail or on welfare fall off the wagon during their early- to mid-teen years, and by the time they realize that prioritizing sex and drugs over their education wasn't such a good idea, it's too late to do anything about it.
The "education is its own reward" ideal is the status quo today, and it obviously isn't working. It's time to try something else.
Uhhhh......Unless you work for some type of large business that deals with the government or the government itself, I'll lay money right now you have never ever worked with any black person who got a job through AA. And AA has many different rules when it comes to college. A family member through marriage who is white, but has 1/8 Indian blood had several colleges say they would let her go there for free. And I get tired of the holy minority asian rants as well. More lies. They come here and are not placed in the hood, but instead get placed in white neighborhoods.
They can qualify for business loans that a black or hispanic person can only dream of. The playing field is far from equal. Middle eastern too, same thing. I seen a middle eastern chick in the acme one day and she had cute little kid with her. And she had a family first card paying for groceries. I swear truthfully about this. I was doing self checkout so I walked out at the same time. Dude she got into a brand new BMW 750. And I mean a cold black brand new 750. I sat in my little hoopity and thought to myself as I watched her drive off, that is some bs.
Yes, other forms of discrimination have occurred. Comparing decades of discrimination to nearly four centuries of slavery is just silly. Then following up slavery with 100 years of separate but equal nonsense was the icing on the completely different cake.
oh i understand now. you're from CA.
sorry, my tax dollars are not going to pay someone to get good grades.
the incentive is already there. do well in school, apply that knowledge, make money when you graduate.
yeah, it's called parenting.
Black families (as well as Hispanic and, to a lesser extent, Native American families) are much more likely to be living in economically-depressed areas with few job opportunities for high school graduates. When a poor kid has a choice of making money by working, stealing, selling drugs, etc. today, or forgo years of money-making opportunities to complete high school for a potentially brighter tomorrow that may never actually materialize, dropping out doesn't seem like such a bad idea, particularly if their family is a paycheck/welfare check away from being homeless.
You want higher academic performance from underprivileged students? Have the school system pay them for results.
- Got an A on your report card this trimester, Tyrone? Here's $250.
- Qualified for the honor roll this semester, Jasmine? Good job! Here's a $500 bonus.
- Got your high school diploma, Pedro? Congratulations, here's $5,000 to help you get started in higher education or in a trade.
- Got an F, Running Bull? Sorry, you don't get shit. Better change your learning strategy if you wanna make the bucks.
Give students a reason to choose grades over gangs, and watch their academic performance skyrocket.
I doubt the slave trade had a effect, just talking about Sports alone, Black people dominate sports in Europe to. And in Europe they were never enslaved or forced to move to that continent. 99 percent of Black people in Europe are either straight from Africa or they're parents chose to move to Europe a few decades ago.
So slavery has nothing to do with Black people dominating sports, if that was the case then Black Africans would not be dominating sports like they do.
Graduating high school has nothing to do with intelligence, so it's irrelevant in this conversation. We're not talking about graduating with honors or high GPAs and advanced classes. We're simply talking about not dropping out before you finish. The only things that matter are work ethic and priorities.
Your tax dollars are currently paying for the consequences of someone getting bad grades and/or not completing their education.
This is where you make a fundamental error. For a sizable chunk of the population, there is very little incentive to complete school. A high school diploma doesn't amount to much these days, and the lack of economic opportunity in poorer areas along with the stigma of being a minority (particularly black) makes it that much harder for them to be competitive in the workforce. Graduating high school does enable a path to higher education, but the cost keeps it out of reach.
When kids are faced with a choice between an "education" with an uncertain future (while giving up many "luxuries" to pursue it), or the ability to make money today, is it any surprise which one they'll most often choose?
Parenting works great for the kids with effective parents. What about kids whose parents are working/incarcerated/drunk/high? Responding with "lulz, guess you should've been born to better parents :awe:" is not effective and will ensure that yet another generation of people end up on the welfare rolls.
See how he did not and could not reply to my post, especially about the links of black on black violence, how popular liquor stores and payday loan/check cashing places are with blacks, and how Asian immigrants did not have anything handed to them but worked very hard to move up. He acted like "only" blacks and hispanics are discriminated against and Asians are not.
For businesses and Colleges that 'honor' AA and use a points system [which is pretty common], you would never know that AA is being used. Its a silent system. Put in your job or College application, check mark the 'im black' box and you get instant "bonus" points for yourself.
There was a lawsuit against the University of Michigan about this. That university uses a 150 point system to 'grade' applicants to see who gets in. For being Black/Hispanic or Native American...You get a bonus of 20 points at that College, out of a 150 point max that you can score.
And that lawsuit was over ruled on btw, so that 'bonus' is still active at that University and many other Jobs and Colleges use the same type of silent 'bonus points for being black' system.
How is that fair to White people or Asians ? Its not. And why dont Asians get a bonus, they are more of a minority than blacks or Latinos are.
Heres a link to that case-
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/15/bush.affirmativeaction/
And a quote from it-
"In the University of Michigan case, white students opposed to the program filed suits against the school. One lawsuit challenged the affirmative action program at the College of Literature, Science and the Arts, and another lawsuit challenged admissions policies using race at the law school.
The undergraduate admission process involves a point system where African-American, Hispanic and Native American applicants earn 20 points on the basis of race out of a 150-point system."
To cut right to the chase. A black star athlete pays the bills for that white and asian student, especially at Michigan. If it wasn't for those athletes, many would not even be able to afford the tuition. College is just not the next step in development anymore for young people for just education. While it should be the focus, it can be debated. But yes Michigan and many other top schools well be more lenient for admission because those students actually give something back to the university.
you're absolutely right, and that should change too.
my tax dollars should be better spent, not paying the town/state my money to go towards ineffective schools that i don't have kids attending.
a job, any job beats being homeless or a criminal in jail.
so you'd rather bribe the kids to do something they're already supposed to be doing.
look, the cycle has to break somewhere and it sure as hell ain't going to happen by paying kids off.
who knows what they're going to do with the money. knowing their situation, the parents will probably take it and buy drugs and booze.
maybe the parents ought to be enrolled in parenting school.
It doesn't matter. The goal is to incentivize the student to remain in school as a willing participant. If the parent is relying on their kids' school performance to fund a drug habit, they will have every incentive to ensure that their kid stays in school and performs as well as possible. The kid will then graduate from school, and have doors of opportunity open to them for the rest of their lives that would slammed shut if they dropped out.
LoL?
Asians:
- Got an A on your report card? Good. You should've anyway
- Got a B on your report card? Get beat and grounded for the next year.
- Got a 4.0? Oh nice. Now we can think about letting you go out and play and not have to go to prep classes 24/7.
They'll make more money than any of us in the porn business.
Demand for black penis = v. high
They'll make more money than any of us in the porn business.
Demand for black penis = v. high
WTF? where the hell did you get that info from? Holy crap man. All that started with the Mesopotamians. Sure there were slaves other than blacks, but they did the same thing in Europe for a much longer time frame than in America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
I was talking only about Black slavery. There were a tiny amount of African slaves in Europe during the slave trade, in the UK at most 2000...But most of them were trained as house servants to be shipped to Jamaica or other rich colonies to keep the Governors and other elites happy.
And as far as Black slavery goes, North Africans dont count. Arabs had a slave trade aswell with Black Africans, and North Africa recieved a ton of them aswell...The native population of N.Africa is not black, in some areas it may appear that way but those are slave descendants. Same can be seen in Saudi Arabia and even Iraq where black slavery was semi-common and they're descendants are still around.
So as far as the Romans go and North African slavery that doesnt count as black slavery since native N.Africans are not black.
And if you want to be picky about it, every race and culture has had slavery at some point. The Romans were very fond of they're German and Celtic neighbors for slavery. Caesar when he took over Gaul enslaved half of the population. The Turks were enslaving White Christian Europeans up until the late 1800s. The Aztecs enslaved neighboring tribes, the Chinese enslaved Koreans...So yea I just mean black slavery and not slavery in general.
To cut right to the chase. A black star athlete pays the bills for that white and asian student, especially at Michigan. If it wasn't for those athletes, many would not even be able to afford the tuition. College is just not the next step in development anymore for young people for just education. While it should be the focus, it can be debated. But yes Michigan and many other top schools well be more lenient for admission because those students actually give something back to the university.