Black Man Gets Life for a Joint, White Man Goes Free For Crack

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: r6ashih
Did anyone read the article? this isnt about the war on drugs. Its about unfair and unequal punishments for a crime.

under age Black commits armed robbery, gets 10 probation under the condition that if he violates probation with he will serve the sentence for the armed robbery. He violates probation with MJ and gets a life sentence

White man shoots and kills male prostitute in the back, gets 10 years probation. He violates probation by violating it with drug use (CRACK). White guy gets postcard probation- meaning he no longer takes drug tests, or meats with a Parole officer. all he has to do is send in a postcard to the courts to confirm his address.

I would hope that this is what the majority of people are angry over.

 

[Soybomb]

Despte the sob story I have about zero sympathy for anyone who takes part in armed robbery. Thinking its okay to point lethal weapons at people should land your butt in jail for a very long time. Continue to show willingness to break the last and you can stay in jail. To me this is a "awww poor under privileged black guy story" and I'm not seeing it.

"life in prison for smoking a joint ? that's harsh in any case."

The man has life in prison because he continued to disregard the law after taking part in an armed robber, not because of smoking a joint.

So we should just quit...let everyone do all the drugs they want

I agree, we should.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Proof that Texas is a fvcked up place. Even being white I'd much rather live where I do now than in that sh!t hole.

 

[jlee]

You all do realize that he was not given life in prison for smoking MJ, do you not? He was given life for violating the terms of his parole.

Not that I agree with the rulings in any way whatsoever -- but saying he was given a life sentence for smoking is not entirely correct.

 

[Fayd]

i was under the impression that probation got you out of jail early, and ****** up your probation puts you back in jail with your original sentence, and whatever you did to ****** up. odd that he'd get life...

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Chrono
It's funny how Alcohol isn't illegal when Pot is. I think in the long run Pot is a way better way to get high since
#1. Only kills brain cells
#2. Might possibly affect the respiratory system? (I don't think so though)

Small amounts of alcohol consumed on a daily basis prevent many nasty illnesses. Smoking pot everyday increases chances of lung cancer...

GG

Vaporizers FTW!

Just breathing city air increases chance of lung cancer. Seems like everything causes cancer nowadays.

You see, alcohol consumed in a regimental fashion actually increases your life expectancy. Doctors across the board recommend it.

 

[her209]

I think they should give people life for smoking cigars and cigarettes...

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Chrono
It's funny how Alcohol isn't illegal when Pot is. I think in the long run Pot is a way better way to get high since
#1. Only kills brain cells
#2. Might possibly affect the respiratory system? (I don't think so though)

Small amounts of alcohol consumed on a daily basis prevent many nasty illnesses. Smoking pot everyday increases chances of lung cancer...

GG

Vaporizers FTW!

Just breathing city air increases chance of lung cancer. Seems like everything causes cancer nowadays.

You see, alcohol consumed in a regimental fashion actually increases your life expectancy. Doctors across the board recommend it.

Yes I'm well aware of that. I was just refuting the cancer statement. I read somewhere, not sure where now, that there is actually little/no increased risk of lung cancer from smoking pot. I'll try to dig up the article. I did a bunch of papers on the subject back in high school.

EDIT:

Even very heavy, long-term marijuana users who had smoked more than 22,000 joints over a lifetime seemed to have no greater risk than infrequent marijuana users or nonusers.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/122/114805.htm

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: her209
I think they should give people life for smoking cigars and cigarettes...

QFT :thumbsup:

Second hand smoke = satan's breath :disgust:

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Despte the sob story I have about zero sympathy for anyone who takes part in armed robbery. Thinking its okay to point lethal weapons at people should land your butt in jail for a very long time. Continue to show willingness to break the last and you can stay in jail. To me this is a "awww poor under privileged black guy story" and I'm not seeing it.

"life in prison for smoking a joint ? that's harsh in any case."

The man has life in prison because he continued to disregard the law after taking part in an armed robber, not because of smoking a joint.

So we should just quit...let everyone do all the drugs they want

I agree, we should.

Yeah I agree that armed robbery should carry a high penalty, but this is really about the disparity in the sentencing of 2 people of differing social classes.

Armed robbery is bad, but it doesn't warrant life in prison, especially when the person who commited the crime was only 17. The point is that NEITHER of his crimes warranted a life sentence, yet somehow they culminated in one. While the other guy repeatedly commited crimes which were ALL much worse than any that Brown committed (especially the one that got him on probation in the first place) and HE GOT AWAY WITH IT.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

Alcohol is a drug so therefore if you drink you are a druggie and an alcoholic(since occasional use is the same thing as constant heavy use, right?). caffeine is a drug therefore if you drink Mt. Dew or Dr. Pepper or Coke or Pepsi you are a druggie. Just doesn't seem to work does it?

 

[Fenixgoon]

problem #1 - letting the killer go on 10 years probation in the first place.

problem #2 - that's one fvcked up case. even though im against drugs, lifetime for smoking a joint and violating probation is ridiculous.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

Reasoning with canai is like trying to reason with a pothead. You cant, so well just wait til the justice system catches up with him. A few years in the pokey should clear his thoughts, IMO.

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Despte the sob story I have about zero sympathy for anyone who takes part in armed robbery. Thinking its okay to point lethal weapons at people should land your butt in jail for a very long time. Continue to show willingness to break the last and you can stay in jail. To me this is a "awww poor under privileged black guy story" and I'm not seeing it.

"life in prison for smoking a joint ? that's harsh in any case."

The man has life in prison because he continued to disregard the law after taking part in an armed robber, not because of smoking a joint.

So we should just quit...let everyone do all the drugs they want

I agree, we should.

Yeah I agree that armed robbery should carry a high penalty, but this is really about the disparity in the sentencing of 2 people of differing social classes.

Armed robbery is bad, but it doesn't warrant life in prison, especially when the person who commited the crime was only 17. The point is that NEITHER of his crimes warranted a life sentence, yet somehow they culminated in one. While the other guy repeatedly commited crimes which were ALL much worse than any that Brown committed (especially the one that got him on probation in the first place) and GOT AWAY WITH IT.

I'm not sure that I'd agree. People talk about wanting tougher gun laws all the time and whine about criminals with guns but then they want to give people a slap on the wrist that use them in crime. Would it really be so terrible to say that if you stick a gun in someones face during the commission of a crime you're going to prison for life? Threatening someones life is a really one of the worst things a person could do to another person, to me at least. So no I really don't have a problem with armed robbery giving someone a life sentence. If you show that much disrespect for the lives of others you can stay in jail.

I'd want to read far more about the others guy's case before I comment on it. The author of course will have his own spin on the topic and I would be surprised if the difference in sentencing as sinister as its made out to be.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

Reasoning with canai is like trying to reason with a pothead. You cant, so well just wait til the justice system catches up with him. A few years in the pokey should clear his thoughts, IMO.

Unfortunately, you can't use marijuana as an excuse for your mental deficiencies.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Canai
I don't smoke, nice try.

edit: I'm drinking a glass of wine right now, does that make me a raging alcoholic that should be incarcerated? no? this guy smoked a joint, does that mean he's a pothead druggie that deserves life in prison?

Yep.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Eli
lol.. here we go again. May as well add my $0.02.

Logically, there is no reason why marijuana should be illegal when alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal.

It's not for health reasons. It's not for "It fscks you up" reasons. Just made up nonsense reasons.

Not really. If some taxi driver said "Imma light up this joint while I drive, you mind?"
You'd sure as hell get out of that Taxi.
And theres no point in trying to regulate it. The legal medical marijuana has shown that.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

Reasoning with canai is like trying to reason with a pothead. You cant, so well just wait til the justice system catches up with him. A few years in the pokey should clear his thoughts, IMO.

The word druggie can mean whatever you want it to mean, it doesn't change anything, but if anyone can tell me why these particular drugs are so evil and alcohol/cigarettes/coffee are not, I'd love to hear it.

And if anyone can tell me why I shouldn't have all the drugs I want, so long as I remain a productive member of society and it doesn't affect anyone else, that would be nice too.

Society's attitude toward 'drugs' makes no sense.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Exscuse me!?

Just because I dont think we need druggies prowling the hood, Im the bad guy? WTF? Life is a bit much, but whatever.

potheads are not druggies. crackheads are druggies. here comes the war.......

EDIT: not every pothead is a druggie, and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead.

stereotype FTL

marijuana is a drug therefore if you do drugs your a druggie

Reasoning with canai is like trying to reason with a pothead. You cant, so well just wait til the justice system catches up with him. A few years in the pokey should clear his thoughts, IMO.

So, defending marijuana makes me a pothead destined for prison??? oook:roll:. Like I said previously, I don't smoke. I did in high school several years ago, but haven't since then. and when were you trying to reason with me? Is that what the "All potheads should get life." statement was? Reasoning?

And you're right. I won't listen to any reasoning on the subject unless it presents some new information. Having researched marijuana and it's impacts on society heavily, I feel strongly that it is misrepresented in mainstream society. If someone were to 'reason' with me, would that not be akin to me giving up my stance and saying 'Ok, whatever you say, sir?'

And a few years in the pokey would help me? Rehabilitation, not incarceration, is the only way to help people. Instead of throwing them in a hellhole prison, they need to be helped.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Eli
lol.. here we go again. May as well add my $0.02.

Logically, there is no reason why marijuana should be illegal when alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal.

It's not for health reasons. It's not for "It fscks you up" reasons. Just made up nonsense reasons.

Not really. If some taxi driver said "Imma light up this joint while I drive, you mind?"
You'd sure as hell get out of that Taxi.
And theres no point in trying to regulate it. The legal medical marijuana has shown that.

Same applies for the taxi driver who says "Imma mix this bacardi and coke while I drive, you mind?"

Just because we think it should be legal doesn't mean that it shouldn't be subject to standard laws regarding driving under the influence...

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Eli
lol.. here we go again. May as well add my $0.02.

Logically, there is no reason why marijuana should be illegal when alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal.

It's not for health reasons. It's not for "It fscks you up" reasons. Just made up nonsense reasons.

Not really. If some taxi driver said "Imma light up this joint while I drive, you mind?"
You'd sure as hell get out of that Taxi.
And theres no point in trying to regulate it. The legal medical marijuana has shown that.

Same applies for the taxi driver who says "Imma mix this bacardi and coke while I drive, you mind?"

Just because we think it should be legal doesn't mean that it shouldn't be subject to standard laws regarding driving under the influence...

Exactly, regulation not legalization.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Soybomb
Despte the sob story I have about zero sympathy for anyone who takes part in armed robbery. Thinking its okay to point lethal weapons at people should land your butt in jail for a very long time. Continue to show willingness to break the last and you can stay in jail. To me this is a "awww poor under privileged black guy story" and I'm not seeing it.

"life in prison for smoking a joint ? that's harsh in any case."

The man has life in prison because he continued to disregard the law after taking part in an armed robber, not because of smoking a joint.

So we should just quit...let everyone do all the drugs they want

I agree, we should.

Yeah I agree that armed robbery should carry a high penalty, but this is really about the disparity in the sentencing of 2 people of differing social classes.

Armed robbery is bad, but it doesn't warrant life in prison, especially when the person who commited the crime was only 17. The point is that NEITHER of his crimes warranted a life sentence, yet somehow they culminated in one. While the other guy repeatedly commited crimes which were ALL much worse than any that Brown committed (especially the one that got him on probation in the first place) and GOT AWAY WITH IT.

I'm not sure that I'd agree. People talk about wanting tougher gun laws all the time and whine about criminals with guns but then they want to give people a slap on the wrist that use them in crime. Would it really be so terrible to say that if you stick a gun in someones face during the commission of a crime you're going to prison for life? Threatening someones life is a really one of the worst things a person could do to another person, to me at least. So no I really don't have a problem with armed robbery giving someone a life sentence. If you show that much disrespect for the lives of others you can stay in jail.

I'd want to read far more about the others guy's case before I comment on it. The author of course will have his own spin on the topic and I would be surprised if the difference in sentencing as sinister as its made out to be.

Apparently you turned a blind eye like the judge. Did you even read the whole story? You didn't even have to read the whole story to get the point. The topic is that there was another man, who shot and killed someone else, and got off easy while this man pointed a gun and robbed someone without even harming them and got life in prison. Here are some excerpts from the article:

Mr. Hathaway, the robbery victim, knew nothing about the case's outcome until contacted recently by The News. He, too, was astounded.

"Goodness gracious," he said in a phone call from Virginia, where he now lives. "You have got to be kidding me. ... Nobody touched me at all."

The Wood crime

John Alexander Wood's journey toward Judge Dean's courtroom began on a March evening in 1995. He picked up a 22-year-old hustler named Larry Clark on an Oak Lawn street, and they went to Mr. Wood's nearby home.

Police reports, citing Mr. Wood's statements and physical evidence, say the two men had sex, for which Mr. Wood paid $30. Afterward, Mr. Clark asked for a ride home, but Mr. Wood balked and demanded his money back. A fight ensued.

Mr. Clark ran into the back yard, which was enclosed by a high fence. Mr. Wood, using a small semiautomatic pistol, fatally shot him from behind and took the money from Mr. Clark's pocket.

Mr. Wood, who had no criminal history, initially pleaded not guilty to murder and went to trial in 1996. As jurors were about to conclude deliberations, the prosecution and defense cut a deal that Judge Dean approved: The defendant pleaded guilty to murder in exchange for 10 years of deferred-adjudication probation.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: r6ashih
Did anyone read the article? this isnt about the war on drugs. Its about unfair and unequal punishments for a crime.

under age Black commits armed robbery, gets 10 probation under the condition that if he violates probation with he will serve the sentence for the armed robbery. He violates probation with MJ and gets a life sentence

White man shoots and kills male prostitute in the back, gets 10 years probation. He violates probation by violating it with drug use (CRACK). White guy gets postcard probation- meaning he no longer takes drug tests, or meats with a Parole officer. all he has to do is send in a postcard to the courts to confirm his address.

Seriously... I don't think anyone even read the first few sentences of the article. This has become another never-ending drug debate. This whole article isn't even about drugs to begin with.

 

[FoBoT]

FUD