If a cop gets stunned or incapacitated by ANY device, including a lethal weapon, a suspect or random passerby can grab his gun and attack others with genuinely lethal force.The entire incident
The police and our culture have embraced tasers as the end all be all non lethal weapon.
Rayshard should not have been killed for pointing a non lethal weapon at an officer.
There is no excuse for that.
That entire interaction seemed to be going fine and I don't see racism as the issue with that officers reaction. I see more it more as a result of the militarization of American police where "neutralize the perceived threat as soon as possible with lethal force" is so drilled into their training.
Not a valid argument when you have other officers on the scene. They could have used lethal force to prevent that.If a cop gets stunned or incapacitated by ANY device, including a lethal weapon, a suspect or random passerby can grab his gun and attack others with genuinely lethal force.
Police are required to avoid that situation.
At least, thats the excuse they use every time they murder a guy who was "going for my gun" and that seems to have worked for them a long time. Why should they stop using it now?
Also this:
Qualified Immunity Helps Police Get Away With Murder—And So Do Prosecutors
Now that I've left my job as a prosecutor to become a civil rights lawyer, I see even more clearly how and why police are shielded from accountability.www.newsweek.com
It was written by a prosecutor.
Umm, yes, they could have used lethal force to prevent it.Not a valid argument when you have other officers on the scene. They could have used lethal force to prevent that.
You misunderstood what I said.Umm, yes, they could have used lethal force to prevent it.
And they did.
wtf?
Incorrect. You need to watch the footage and come back.The only thing this cop knew with certainty was the the suspect was firing a weapon in their direction. He couldn't know that it was a tazer, a bb gun, or a real gun that the suspect pulled out of his waistband. Don't discharge weapons at cops and then become outraged when the cops shoot back. SMH.
The only thing this cop knew with certainty was the the suspect was firing a weapon in their direction. He couldn't know that it was a tazer, a bb gun, or a real gun that the suspect pulled out of his waistband. Don't discharge weapons at cops and then become outraged when the cops shoot back. SMH.
That Wendy's that was burned? Looks like it was a young white girl who started the fire.
Atlanta Wendy's Arsonist May Be a White Woman, Police Photos Suggest
Authorities shared a video posted to social media of the female suspect, as well as photos of the individual "attempting to hide her identity."www.newsweek.com
Except for the fact that he was searched already unless you are saying he pulled a shank out of his anus. Perhaps he had an infinity stone
I did. And now I don't know, but....do you see the 2nd cop - the one who is limping - take cover behind the Altima after the suspect gets shot? He doesn't even know that's it's safe after the suspect has been shot and hits the ground, and he's seen everything that has transpired first hand.Incorrect. You need to watch the footage and come back.
Keistered shank is my character's name on RDR2 online.Except for the fact that he was searched already unless you are saying he pulled a shank out of his anus. Perhaps he had an infinity stone
I did. And now I don't know, but....do you see the 2nd cop - the one who is limping - take cover behind the Altima after the suspect gets shot? He doesn't even know that's it's safe after the suspect has been shot and hits the ground, and he's seen everything that has transpired first hand.
I did. And now I don't know, but....do you see the 2nd cop - the one who is limping - take cover behind the Altima after the suspect gets shot? He doesn't even know that's it's safe after the suspect has been shot and hits the ground, and he's seen everything that has transpired first hand.
I don't know. But he clearly was. Watch the video. So he either didn't want to be tazed and potentially have his gun taken from him, or he thought that the suspect had a weapon that was not found during the pat down. That's the only logical conclusion isn't it? Do you think he was hiding from a ghost?So, what was the cop hiding from? A non-lethal item? Or did the cop think the man had a gun materialize out of thin air? They knew he had one of their Tasers, but since that's non-lethal, that certainly wasn't a reason to hide, was it? So where'd they think he'd gotten a lethal weapon...after they'd searched him and found nothing? Did the man run to the gun store, obtain a weapon, then return? If not, why was the cop hiding?
In the video did you hear the cop say hands off the taser a couple of times and then say he tried to taser me? Did you see the security footage with him running? Did you see the big yellow thing in his hand? That is a taser. Stop making excuses for this. Deadly force was unjustified.I did not know that he was patted down. I'm sure that pat downs are not 100# effective 100% of the time. It seems to me that there's a fair amount of chaos and confusion in that situation, so much so that cop #2 was running for cover even after the suspect was shot and even after "knowing" that the suspect had a tazer and not a gun. I'm sure some people think that cops should be above all of that and be able to make perfect split second decisions all the time, and if they can't then the shouldn't be cops. I think that's an impossible standard. I probably wouldn't fight with a cop, steal his tazer and then shoot it at him and expect not to be shot. <shrug>
Because Brooks had a non-lethal weapon he took from the officer, was running and was shot in the back.
Police can use deadly force to protect their own lives. They can't use it to gun down someone who is trying to escape a DUI arrest.
The proper procedure was to get into the car and follow him, and call for backup. Or he could have just let him run away. He wasn't going to escape arrest for long. They had his car and probably his license!
C'mon, they knew he was holding their own taser, they watched him run away with it. They had also patted him down prior to check for real weapons. And not only that, they watched him shoot the taser at them, and then shot him dead after that. Them thinking he had a real gun makes no sense.So a violent suspect points something that could be a gun and what should police do? I wouldn't want to bet my life that he was pointing a stolen taser and not a real gun.
We just went through this. Read a few post above your post. Get some facts and come back.So a violent suspect points something that could be a gun and what should police do? I wouldn't want to bet my life that he was pointing a stolen taser and not a real gun.
I probably wouldn't fight with a cop, steal his tazer and then shoot it at him and expect not to be shot.
You say that....
But what if they are the ones fighting with you? What if they start something that makes you afraid for your life. Are you going to sit there and take it? We're talking flight or flight response. They have weapons, they are harming you. Don't tell me you wouldn't fight.
We just went through this. Read a few post above your post. Get some facts and come back.
Oh and once you realize this cant be justified please don't try to divert to the Wendy's getting torched.
Did his partner paint his gun yellow. Plus did you hear the audio.. This has all been covered. Please go watch the entire incident before commenting. If you need i will go get the clip with audio about he has my taser and provide it with the time the skip to. I don't want to but i will if you agree to take an honest look.They were all on the ground, could have took his partners gun in the confusion, how would he know for sure in a split second whether it's a gun or a taser.