Black man shoots taser at white police officer. Officer then shoots and kills man. Officer gets fired

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skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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If the officer was working without backup, the taser could indeed be a lethal weapon. if he is successfully incapacitated by the taser it is no thing to take his gun and kill him with it. I'm not saying this was the case or an excuse for shooting this guy, but i could see how it would change the decision process.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
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Tasers are a lethal threat. They are known as a less-lethal weapon. Not a non-lethal weapon.


The TASER device is a less-lethal, not non-lethal, weapon. Sharp metal projectiles and electricity are in use, so misuse or abuse of the weapon increases the likelihood that serious injury or death may occur
No according to manufacturers of TAZERS THEY ARE not LETHAL!1
Get your facts straight!
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
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If the officer was working without backup, the taser could indeed be a lethal weapon. if he is successfully incapacitated by the taser it is no thing to take his gun and kill him with it. I'm not saying this was the case or an excuse for shooting this guy, but i could see how it would change the decision process.
NOPE!! Sorry a tazer doesn`t become lethal because of the results of firing a Tazer.....Republicans think that way........you cannot blame the Tazer on a man`s death unless the tazer was being used in an obusive manner!
 
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interchange

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Oct 10, 1999
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They didn't comply with applicable city codes when they terminated him. They wanted him terminated right away so that they could tell the public about it, given the political climate. They screwed up.

The consequence is that he is now on paid leave until his criminal verdict comes down.

As long as he remains on leave and they are able to fire him by now following procedure, I don't really care. If they are somehow forced to retain employment absent a guilty verdict/plea, then I'll be upset.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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If the officer was working without backup, the taser could indeed be a lethal weapon. if he is successfully incapacitated by the taser it is no thing to take his gun and kill him with it. I'm not saying this was the case or an excuse for shooting this guy, but i could see how it would change the decision process.
That's flimsy. If the guy had incapacitated him with a solid sucker punch, he could have also stolen the gun and shot him. Based on that argument, all contact could be met with a good shoot. There was no reasonable threat to that officer's or anyone else's life that would justify him shooting at someone who was obviously drunk out of his mind running from him.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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That's flimsy. If the guy had incapacitated him with a solid sucker punch, he could have also stolen the gun and shot him. Based on that argument, all contact could be met with a good shoot. There was no reasonable threat to that officer's or anyone else's life that would justify him shooting at someone who was obviously drunk out of his mind running from him.
Uhh, punching an officer in the face to incapacitate and potentially gain access to his gun could be considered grounds for another officer to shoot. Absolutely. You aren’t really making the argument you think you are.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Uhh, punching an officer in the face to incapacitate and potentially gain access to his gun could be considered grounds for another officer to shoot. Absolutely. You aren’t really making the argument you think you are.
That's not what I was saying (I happen to agree, if that intent can be proven). I'm saying a drunkard running away with a taser being shot because of the *potential* to incapacitate with that taser is a flimsy reason to shoot, as the same thing can be justified with no weapons.
 
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JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
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Uhh, punching an officer in the face to incapacitate and potentially gain access to his gun could be considered grounds for another officer to shoot. Absolutely. You aren’t really making the argument you think you are.
ACTUALLY HE IS........any argument is better than the BS skyking is pedaling!
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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That's flimsy. If the guy had incapacitated him with a solid sucker punch, he could have also stolen the gun and shot him. Based on that argument, all contact could be met with a good shoot. There was no reasonable threat to that officer's or anyone else's life that would justify him shooting at someone who was obviously drunk out of his mind running from him.
In fact he DID and a nice blow right to the officers face once the struggle ensued AND was trying to grab his gun. You know, I understand, there's a legit case to be made for some cops who shoot people needlessly, but damm, watch the full 1/2hr vid, this man was treated respectfully by those cops as he went on and on in his drunken barrage of bullshit. For their effort to handle the situation without escalation they got attacked by this idiot when they tried to calmly cuff him including a solid punch to the face as he tried to gain access to his gun.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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In fact he DID and a nice blow right to the officers face once the struggle ensued AND was trying to grab his gun. You know, I understand, there's a legit case to be made for some cops who shoot people needlessly, but damm, watch the full 1/2hr vid, this man was treated respectfully by those cops as he went on and on in his drunken barrage of bullshit. For their effort to handle the situation without escalation they got attacked by this idiot when they tried to calmly cuff him including a solid punch to the face as he tried to gain access to his gun.

Their professional attitude before the arrest is irrelevant. As was his "trying to grab his gun" and "punching him in the face." Had the cop shot him while they struggled for the gun, it would have been self-defense. But that's not what happened. What actually happened was that after all those things you describe, he ran and was shot in the back.

Your reasoning is basically that the guy deserved to die because he behaved badly. Fortunately, that is the not the standard for self-defense of a police officer. But you have, perhaps inadvertently, described the cop's actual reason for shooting him. He shot him because he was angry over his behavior, not because he was afraid.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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Their professional attitude before the arrest is irrelevant. As was his "trying to grab his gun" and "punching him in the face." Had the cop shot him while they struggled for the gun, it would have been self-defense. But that's not what happened. What actually happened was that after all those things you describe, he ran and was shot in the back.

Your reasoning is basically that the guy deserved to die because he behaved badly. Fortunately, that is the not the standard for self-defense of a police officer. But you have, perhaps inadvertently, described the cop's actual reason for shooting him. He shot him because he was angry over his behavior, not because he was afraid.
I won't argue that point because everything you said was accurate but damm, smash a cops face, try and grab his gun and wind up with a taser pointed back as he fled. Do I think that taser presented a deadly threat?, no, I don't think so but I give zero shits this guy got shot, he made some really crappy choices.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I won't argue that point because everything you said was accurate but damm, smash a cops face, try and grab his gun and wind up with a taser pointed back as he fled. Do I think that taser presented a deadly threat?, no, I don't think so but I give zero shits this guy got shot, he made some really crappy choices.
That's for a jury to decide, not the cop.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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That's for a jury to decide, not the cop.
He had it coming, was treated respectfully and was asked to place his hands behind his back for arrest and went insane with violence against those cops, put yourself in THEIR shoes, I cannot honestly say I would not have shot this dude after what he did.
 
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