Start at the 11:00 min mark. There are a lot of videos going around and this one has the initial contact. They had his info and I'd.
Start at the 11:00 min mark. There are a lot of videos going around and this one has the initial contact. They had his info and I'd....and if he didn't have ID earlier one can reason that it was probably rented under a different name.
Just sayin' that it's a little more complicated than that. I assume that they had already checked to see if it was reported stolen but if the incident had happened before then they couldn't assume it would lead them to him so easily. Minor detail in the end but still one I keep seeing repeated (that, and his ID).
So, yeah: No ID and the car wasn't his. Even if that did make it impossible to conclusively ID him and track him down later it doesn't excuse shooting him but there were other extenuating circumstances too (obviously). It just isn't as simple as people want to make it.
Gotcha. Yeah, it looks like he found it but he continues complaining about how he just had his wallet but couldn't find it (as if he still couldn't find the ID). Made me think he never found it. Thought the officer stopped asking since he had already called in to verify by name and birthday.Start at the 11:00 min mark. There are a lot of videos going around and this one has the initial contact. They had his info and I'd.
It's FAR FAR more likely that he just didn't want to get arrested. It happens all the time. Why introduce something completely irrational, especially considering this guy points a taser at the cop later on just to maybe improve his chances of escaping a little bit. Even thinking hypothetically about a white person, I can't see that going well. Taser is not seen as simply non-lethal. It's seen more like an intermediate. It's ridiculous seeing all these liberals falling over themselves saying it's totally non-lethal when they've constantly argued the opposite, and there are other considerations for the police (e.g. can potentially take sidearm or easily beaten up if incapacitated, for instance).
After watching this again I realized how intoxicated he was. I wonder if he hadn't been doing soothing more than drinking or he may have been in a blackout drunken state. He was caring on a conversation but was totally said things like how he didn't remember being awakened moments before. I don't think he even knew what was going on.Gotcha. Yeah, it looks like he found it but he continues complaining about how he just had his wallet but couldn't find it (as if he still couldn't find the ID). Made me think he never found it. Thought the officer stopped asking since he had already called in to verify by name and birthday.
also why risk being arrested when you have 2 daughters at home waiting for you??Irrational behavior generally requires an irrational explanation. Why did he not want to be arrested for a misdemeanor so badly that he took that kind of risk? Only other thing I can think of is he was already a fugitive for something far more serious, but 'm pretty sure we'd know about that by now.
Watch the video I posted. I just watched it again and realized just how wasted he was. Not an excuse but being that intoxicated explain his actions.Irrational behavior generally requires an irrational explanation. Why did he not want to be arrested for a misdemeanor so badly that he took that kind of risk? Only other thing I can think of is he was already a fugitive for something far more serious, but 'm pretty sure we'd know about that by now.
This would only constitute if he just RAN, and not RAN with the taser which he later pointed at the cop.
Again, the deadly force was not exhibited until he turned around and pointed the taser.
The gun was still holstered, the Cop was not running with the pistol at any point in time, nor was the pistol even drawn.
For it to be premeditated or for him to show malice, the gun should of been drawn and pointed before the suspect presents force to the officers.
Like for example when he punched the officer in the face, had the cops drawn the weapon there, that would be malice.
But they didn't, it didnt take until again, he turned around and pointed the weapon at the officer for the officer to pull out his sidearm and discharge it.
This is why this will never go to court.
The suspect showed intent when again he turned around pointed the weapon, even tho its non lethal, it still showed intent.
And if he was too drunk to realize what he was doing, well, he should of ubered the wendy's.
Again, too many WHAT IF scenarios can roll out, which are dead ends in a prosecution case.
This isnt anything like the George Lloyd where that was clearly a act of malice.
You don't stand on top of the neck like that, and Lloyd never had a weapon nor did he ever point it at the officers.
The right to bear arms is a amendment in the constitution incase the government decides to go Hegemony like China and rolls out military force.
Its so the people can stand up and fight.
Although its sort of moot in today's world, but it was originally intended as a stop gap so the new government which followed after british rule would not be able to bully the general populace without heavy resistance.
This is why if America was to ever get invaded in for example Texas, good luck.
Some Texan's have an armory which would rival some police stations.
The officers ask if he has been drinking and he says he has had maybe one and a half drinks. They conduct a sobriety test in which Brooks appears shaky. He then registers a .108 blood alcohol level on a breathalyzer, which is above Georgia’s legal limit of .08.After watching this again I realized how intoxicated he was. I wonder if he hadn't been doing soothing more than drinking or he may have been in a blackout drunken state. He was caring on a conversation but was totally said things like how he didn't remember being awakened moments before. I don't think he even knew what was going on.
Which is why I think maybe some other substances was involved. Have not seen a toxicology report so we will see. He seems more intoxicated than .108 no? I mean he literally fell asleep in a drive through.The officers ask if he has been drinking and he says he has had maybe one and a half drinks. They conduct a sobriety test in which Brooks appears shaky. He then registers a .108 blood alcohol level on a breathalyzer, which is above Georgia’s legal limit of .08.
who knows? Long day, visiting his mothers grave......you could be right!Which is why I think maybe some other substances was involved. Have not seen a toxicology report so we will see. He seems more intoxicated than .108 no? I mean he literally fell asleep in a drive through.
First of all somebody said the victim had it coming!! That is one ignorant statement that is not born out in the facts of the matter!!
So lets play the what if game.....
The man grabbed the taser knowing it was a taser.
He fired the taser or pointed the taser at the cop who was way further than the taser could reach!
There were 2 cops both had weapons out.....
The Police claim a taser is not a lethal weapon, thus the Police cannot shoot a man for grabbing his taser! The Police cannot have it both ways!
Well I killed the dude because he stole my taser and was going to kill me weith it.....
Oh I`m sorry you do know a taser is not lethal.....yuk! Yuk! Yuk!
The cops were so hell bent on an arrest that they failed to deescalate...after all they knew where the dude lived ansd they had all his information from his drivers license....
Plus the police officer yelled several times take your hands of the taser.....brooks knew it was a taser....plus guns are not painted Yellow!
The real issue is the police did so many things wrong....that it is laughable that it is pitiful and laughable that anybody in their right mind would defend the Police......
Rayshard Brooks went from telling Atlanta officer about visiting mother's grave to being fatally shot: Video
Before being shot to death by an Atlanta police officer outside a fast food restaurant, Rayshard Brooks had a cordial conversation with the officers, videos show.abcnews.go.com
Ok so i will go with your "what if" game...
First off your not supposed to grab ANYTHING from the officer because if his partner thought he was going after his partners gun, that would of given him grounds to shoot the suspect. So your "what if" he knew it was a taser wouldn't apply because he shouldn't of went after it period.
He should of just ran.
The video shows the partner did fire his taser.
These things take time to reload, so you got 1 stolen taser, and 1 used taser, not to mention the suspect has already fled.
No both cops did not have weapons out.
Did you miss the video where he pulled his weapon out of the holster AFTER the taser was pointed at him?
The Police can shoot a man for attempting to grab his sidearm, but again, why did he go after his taser?
Everyone who has even half a brain knows you do not GRAB ANYTHING from a police officer, you just RUN or GIVE UP.
Running however will piss them off more and lead to a more physical aggression.
No he killed the dude because it looked apparent he had malicious thoughts when he pointed the taser at the officer.
This to some people under pressure shows the suspect if he had a real gun would use it.
Again if you have half a brain you know not to point or shoot anything at a police officer.
Again your defending the suspect because he took the cops TASER? Really?
No the cop had a conflict of protocol like Jaskalas states.
He shot the suspect because the society creates moments like this and cops have to determine at the moment what is the path with the least amount of conflict. This isn't a race / hate crime. If he suspect was Asian / Hispanic / White and repeated the same thing, i am pretty sure he would of been shot as well.
There was so many things that if were different, would of resulted in him not being shot.
If it had been his car or had told the truth, or again NOT GRAB'D the taser.
After watching this again I realized how intoxicated he was. I wonder if he hadn't been doing soothing more than drinking or he may have been in a blackout drunken state. He was caring on a conversation but was totally said things like how he didn't remember being awakened moments before. I don't think he even knew what was going on.
all of your points have been invalidated previously! There was a time when the Police could do anything they wanted! But that time is over, it ia time to be held accountable....Ok so i will go with your "what if" game...
First off your not supposed to grab ANYTHING from the officer because if his partner thought he was going after his partners gun, that would of given him grounds to shoot the suspect. So your "what if" he knew it was a taser wouldn't apply because he shouldn't of went after it period.
He should of just ran.
The video shows the partner did fire his taser.
These things take time to reload, so you got 1 stolen taser, and 1 used taser, not to mention the suspect has already fled.
No both cops did not have weapons out.
Did you miss the video where he pulled his weapon out of the holster AFTER the taser was pointed at him?
The Police can shoot a man for attempting to grab his sidearm, but again, why did he go after his taser?
Everyone who has even half a brain knows you do not GRAB ANYTHING from a police officer, you just RUN or GIVE UP.
Running however will piss them off more and lead to a more physical aggression.
No he shot the dude because it looked apparent he had malicious thoughts when he pointed the taser at the officer.
This to some people under pressure shows the suspect if he had a real gun would use it.
Again if you have half a brain you know not to point or shoot anything at a police officer.
Again your defending the suspect because he took the cops TASER? Really?
No the cop had a conflict of protocol like Jaskalas states.
He shot the suspect because the society creates moments like this and cops have to determine at the moment what is the path with the least amount of conflict. This isn't a race / hate crime. If he suspect was Asian / Hispanic / White and repeated the same thing, i am pretty sure he would of been shot as well.
There was so many things that if were different, would of resulted in him not being shot.
If it had been his car or had told the truth, or again NOT GRAB'D the taser.
The 14:00 mark where the DUI cop is getting briefed made me start back through the entire interaction. He was passed out in line at a drive through and it took the cop two tries to wake him up.I'll watch it when I have the time later. For now, I will say he blew a .10 which signifies moderate intoxication.
The discussion around everything outside the moment he was killed is irrelevant to the fact that the cop's life was not in danger so the killing was not justified. We can talk about these things to try and piece together the situation but that fact can't change.I don’t care how everyone tries to spin this....
I.e. was he drunk? I.e. was it more likely drugs? I.e. why did he do this or why did he do that? I.e. or... was something else going on with him? The bottom line, this guy in no way deserved this. Why any black man or woman would react this way can be explained with two words, George Floyd. When cops hunt blacks as a deer hunter hunts deer, there is something really really wrong here. And naturally, and more so now than ever, every black man or woman or black child should be scared to death with any interaction with any cop. This is just another instance of proof for justification the totally dismantling of our policing system, all of it, and restart from the ground up. Rebuild it all from the ground up. In my opinion this is not so much as a fluke or rare occurrence, this is what law enforcement has become and has become for a long long time. Remember, now we have those cameras, imagine what was occurring before we had those cameras? Well, I’ll tell you what was occurring before those cameras, we had police coverups and police deception and out right police lying before we had those cameras. The numbers of unjustified deaths for minorities at the hands of police has to be so much worse than anyone can imagine. But we will never know the true numbers because of coverups and faked police accounts and that police good old boys club of corruption deep within law enforcement. This isn’t the lack of training in law enforcement, this is an outright murderous squad paid for by taxpayers across the country. It all must come crashing down, by force if necessary, and everything must be rebuilt from scratch.
Exactly!! We can 'what if' all daylong!!The discussion around everything outside the moment he was killed is irrelevant to the fact that the cop's life was not in danger so the killing was not justified. We can talk about these things to try and price together the situation but that fact can't change.
Without a body cam, zero chance this cop even gets charged.Very unfortunate that the situation was allowed to get so out of hand in the first place. Apparently the interaction was peaceful for a considerable amount of time. From what I can see on the video, it looks like the detainee panicked when they went to put on the handcuffs. A taser is not "deadly force", but I could see how it would be if there was a one on one confrontation and the cop was tasered. (as someone else said, the cop could then be beaten severely or killed). However, there was another officer on the scene in this case, and the suspect was clearly running away, so killing him was definitely not justified.
I think this is one area where definite policy should be established as to what use of force in justified when a subject is trying to run away. We have had far too many incidents of people being shot while running away. (Same for high speed car chases.)
Because of this, and so much more, I no longer care how much protestors march or riot of destroy property, I say have at it. I say do your best. Their actions are fully justified no matter how violent or destructive. At this point, nothing they can do is too extreme.
Atlanta Police Chief Resigns After Officer Shoots and Kills a Black Man (Published 2020)
Rayshard Brooks had fallen asleep in his vehicle at a Wendy’s drive-through. He was shot after grabbing a Taser from an officer, the authorities said, prompting fresh unrest in the city.www.nytimes.com
The authorities said the man, Rayshard Brooks, 27, had run from the police on Friday night after failing a sobriety test and grabbing a Taser from an officer during a struggle with him.
Mayor Bottoms said that security footage appeared to show that Mr. Brooks had fired the Taser toward the officer, who was chasing him before he was killed, but that she did not consider that a justification for the shooting.
The officer has been fired.
The police chief has also resigned.
this seems like a clear case of self defense to me.
What am i missing that not only was the officer wrong, he was so wrong that he got fired?
What the body cam doesn't show, the Wendy's security cam does.Without a body cam, zero chance this cop even gets charged.
It'd all be swept under the rug.
Without a body cam, zero chance this cop even gets charged.
It'd all be swept under the rug.
What the body cam doesn't show, the Wendy's security cam does.