They didn't steal it. They just wanted a gay-themed inscription put on it. Now, THAT'S a felony in Dumbfuckistan!I’m curious where the cake they allegedly stole is
The only freedom they support is their own. How else do you think they can actually manage to believe that "govt isn't the answer" when govt doesn't serve their interests and then turn around and demand that everyone else worship what amounts to the corrupt DMV with guns and the legal right to kill people when govt does?
If there's a department to defend in this country, it's certainly not the LASD.
It's always good to see the freedumb crowd stumble into these threads and espouse some comply or die sentiments, you know....just to show what kind of freedom they support.
Gone with the doughnuts.I’m curious where the cake they allegedly stole is
Yes, if you are accused of stealing and the police come to investigate, you can't just blow them off and leave, have to remain and obey commands, and be detained WHILE they investigate whether there is merit to arrest you.So anyone can call the cops on anyone and accuse them of stealing and the cops take their word for it and automatically assume their guilt? And employ physical violence against them if they do not comply? No investigation, no evidence, just someones word is all it takes?
Why should I bother answering that? This was about detaining people WITH basis.Are cops allowed to arrest people without any basis? Neither of these people were informed why they were being arrested. That's a basic right, unless you are saying these particular people didn't deserve their rights.
At what point in the video were the individuals attempting to leave?Yes, if you are accused of stealing and the police come to investigate, you can't just blow them off and leave, have to remain and obey commands, and be detained WHILE they investigate whether there is merit to arrest you.
Yes, you have to comply. Yes, the force used can escalate into violence (or just be called that by someone with an agenda) if someone is too stupid to comply. Happens extremely often. That does not mean, there isn't a point where the force needed becomes excessive. It's not at all about comply-or-die.
Look at it the other way around. Suppose you're in a store, I walk up and take your wallet. You call police, they arrive before I leave, they come up to talk to me, and I just say "Nope, didn't do it", and proceed to leave. You don't think they are empowered to keep me there, that all I have to do is choose not to comply to their orders and they'll just stand there with their thumbs up their ***** and watch me leave?
They'd try to grab me, I resist, they get more aggressive until they have control of the scene.
And what if it was a mistaken presumption of guilt without giving the alleged perpetrator a chance to explain?Yes, if you are accused of stealing and the police come to investigate, you can't just blow them off and leave, have to remain and obey commands, and be detained WHILE they investigate whether there is merit to arrest you.
Yes, you have to comply. Yes, the force used can escalate into violence (or just be called that by someone with an agenda) if someone is too stupid to comply. Happens extremely often. That does not mean, there isn't a point where the force needed becomes excessive. It's not at all about comply-or-die.
Look at it the other way around. Suppose you're in a store, I walk up and take your wallet. You call police, they arrive before I leave, they come up to talk to me, and I just say "Nope, didn't do it", and proceed to leave. You don't think they are empowered to keep me there, that all I have to do is choose not to comply to their orders and they'll just stand there with their thumbs up their ***** and watch me leave?
They'd try to grab me, I resist, they get more aggressive until they have control of the scene.
Don't move the goalposts. The individuals were not attempting to leave after the police arrived and detained them, and the video clearly shows that.^ You don't think that was their goal? Really? They planned to steal a cake and get caught? OKAY THEN! lol
The fact there is any argument about this shows the sad state of affairs in US. Cop physically assaulted someone who was non threatening ratcheting up rather than descanting situation. It was assault. Mind blown. Police are not gods; they need to adhere to the law as well.Don't move the goalposts. The individuals were not attempting to leave after the police arrived and detained them, and the video clearly shows that.
So your whole argument that force was required to prevent them from leaving is in bad faith.. at best.
Move goalposts? LOL!!!Don't move the goalposts. The individuals were not attempting to leave after the police arrived and detained them, and the video clearly shows that.
So your whole argument that force was required to prevent them from leaving is in bad faith.. at best.
This is just unhinged.Move goalposts? LOL!!!
There is nothing moved.
They were attempting to resist the consequences of their actions.
When you are caught, and you try to involve BS trying to get away with it, double jeopardy.
You can argue all you want and it makes no difference. Double stupidity on someone stealing then not just accepting their fate by complying with the detainment and arrest.
Yes, apply force, only the amount needed to bring criminals to justice.
Yes, prevent potential criminals from leaving, it's ridiculous to pretend that we just let suspects walk away if they don't "feel" like being accountable.
What planet are you living on?
No, no, no.
Force is only required when someone does not comply. Clearly, criminals do not want to comply, as already stated, their plan was not to steal then comply with being caught. Are you missing some chromosomes to not realize the obviousness of this?
Every single thing you have written, is complete nonsense. E V E R Y T H I N G
It's very simple. Don't break the law then try to get away with it after already caught, if you don't want the consequences to get even worse.
Allow me to give you a tiny hint. The vast majority of society, whether white or a minority, never gets into this kind of situation. Why? Because they don't make the BS excuses you do, instead just do what's right in the first place.
How many times have I been accused of stealing a cake? How many guesses will it take till you reach the right answer? I bet only one.
Every accusation is a confession.Every single thing you have written, is complete nonsense.
Tamir Rice - not given chance.
John Crawford - not given chance.
Philando Castilo - Complying.
Levar Jones - Complying.
Jamel Roberson - Complying.
All black people killed or injured by police while complying or not given the chance to comply.
The nerve of us black people demanding basic civil rights being informed as to the reason for arrest.
Conservatives defending the killing of Breonna Taylor was one of the most breathtaking examples of political hypocrisy ever.Don't forget the countless victims of no-knock warrants and how they're dis-proportionally aimed at minorities.
All Americans are guaranteed the right to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
Your every argument in this thread has been an attempt to contradict that basic Constitutional right. Clearly because you don't believe it exists.
Which if may say so, if naive and stupid AF. Because without that right, anyone may accuse anyone of anything and, using your logic, the accused should be automatically considered guilty.
As such, I am now accusing you of being a pedophile. You clearly are and should be treated as such. And because not everyone is accused of being a pedophile, therefore you must be one, using your own logic. And if you don't comply when society chooses to inflict this abritrary judgment upon you, then we will just use whatever violent force we deem necessary to punish you for your criminal pedophilia.
Sound absurd? That's literally how stupid you are. Because this is your own argument turned back on you.
IF you steal a cake then try to resist arrest, it's not going to turn out well.