BlackBerry cell phone market share 0.0% in 2016 Q4

Eug

Lifer
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Ouch:

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3609817

Worldwide Smartphone Sales to End Users by Operating System in 4Q16

81.7% - Android (352.670 million units)
17.9% - iOS (77.039 million units)
0.3% - Windows (1.092 million units)
0.0% - BlackBerry (0.208 million units)
0.1% - Other (0.530 million units)

However, what was even more telling is just how bad Windows Phone is doing. It's worse than I expected.
 

Crono

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However, what was even more telling is just how bad Windows Phone is doing. It's worse than I expected.

I'm not surprised at all. Microsoft hasn't done anything to indicate they have any interest in the consumer side of smartphones.

Lumia was the bulk of Windows Phone sales. Microsoft never did solve the lack of apps. No sign of a Surface phone as of yet, and whatever mobile Surface device they come out with may not be a typical smartphone. Continuum-focused devices like HP's Elite X3 are priced and aimed towards enterprise.

Basically Microsoft has done nothing to keep ardent enthusiasts interested, and they have no compelling smartphones running Windows for everyone else. It's an undead platform at the moment.
 

Red Squirrel

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Does that mean I'm basically keeping the company alive single handedly because of the Blackberry I recently bought? That probably made their sales go up by a crazy percentage, I should have bought stock before buying my phone. Wanted a new phone without breaking an arm and a leg and also wanted something designed around security so recently bought the DTEK50. It's not really them that makes it though, they just put their name on it.

I hate to see them die off but think it's going to happen, but they really got run over by Apple. It's an unfortunate thing since their product was actually superior especially for enterprise, with BES server and such. But then companies started doing BYOD and most people have iphones and BES kinda became irrelevant. They need to figure out a market, such as lower priced phones, that nobody else is really doing.
 

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My company is in the midst of replacing all the BB devices with iPhones. Sad to say that this will be the last BB I'll ever touch and pretty much the end of a once beloved company. Good night, sweet prince.

HTC, you're next.
 

corwin

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Considering that this list is by "OS", and the BB OS is no longer being used and their new phones are all Android, their sales are actually lumped into the Android bucket.
 
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gorcorps

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Didn't they release a BB that ran Android? Do those users count as Android or BB?
 

corwin

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All their new devices are Android, their last device to use BB OS 10 was the Leap released in 2015...now they outsource manufacturing of Android devices, then add in their goodies, they are doing fine, I still miss my Q30 though
 

Eug

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Does that mean I'm basically keeping the company alive single handedly because of the Blackberry I recently bought? That probably made their sales go up by a crazy percentage, I should have bought stock before buying my phone. Wanted a new phone without breaking an arm and a leg and also wanted something designed around security so recently bought the DTEK50. It's not really them that makes it though, they just put their name on it.

I hate to see them die off but think it's going to happen, but they really got run over by Apple. It's an unfortunate thing since their product was actually superior especially for enterprise, with BES server and such. But then companies started doing BYOD and most people have iphones and BES kinda became irrelevant. They need to figure out a market, such as lower priced phones, that nobody else is really doing.
It should be noted that the DTEK50 is actually an Android phone.
 
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lupi

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So they still sold over 200000 units they last released about 2 years ago, not bad.
 

Elixer

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81.7% - Android (352.670 million units)
17.9% - iOS (77.039 million units)
0.3% - Windows (1.092 million units)
0.0% - BlackBerry (0.208 million units)
0.1% - Other (0.530 million units)
What is weird about these stats is, it pretty much also reflects how exploitable a device is.
(mainly because lack of security patches being applied in a timely manner).
 

Red Squirrel

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It should be noted that the DTEK50 is actually an Android phone.

Yeah it is Android. It's still a blackberry product though, like it's their own custom version of Android. The phone itself is not made by them, but heck who actually makes their own stuff anymore, even the iphone is not made by Apple, but by Foxconn. The BB is made by Alcatel.
 

Eug

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Yeah it is Android. It's still a blackberry product though, like it's their own custom version of Android. The phone itself is not made by them, but heck who actually makes their own stuff anymore, even the iphone is not made by Apple, but by Foxconn. The BB is made by Alcatel.
Alcatel doesn't manufacture phones. They design them. The manufacturer is TCL.

To put it another way, in this case the Apple equivalent is Alcatel (not BlackBerry), and the Foxconn equivalent is TCL.

BB is just piggy backing on someone else's OS and hardware design. It's arguably almost like IBM when they spruce up iOS and Apple iPads for enterprise. The product is still Apple's, but with IBM's custom software. Similarly, the DTEK50 is still Alcatel hardware running Android, but with BB's hardware modifications and modified OS version.
 
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