blackjack gurus: upcoming trip to vegas, strategies to last a couple hrs at the table

[endervalentine]

From all the past poker threads, I know there's got to be some kickass blackjack players here. I have an upcoming trip to vegas in 2 months, wanted to get some tips and strategies on the blackjack table.

I'm not looking to make millions, just be proficient enough not to lose everything in 30mins. Plan is to find some really cheap tables, pluck $100-$200 down and hang out, drink and have some fun with friends.

I know the basics and can look up one of those blackjack cards that tells you when to h/s/d, etc. Anything else aside trying our best to memorize it?

1. Where are the cheap tables at?
2. About how much is needed to last 1-2hrs each night?
3. Any other strategies aside memorizing what to do? This will prob. go out the window once we have a couple of drinks in but still ...
4. Any online place or app that will help you practice ... googling finds www.hitorstand.net, and it looks good?

If I do make millions playing $5 tables I'll give you guys half!!!

 

[Turtle Man]

YHPM

 

[MBentz]

Two pieces of advice from me. First is don't sit in the last seat. Second is Google.

 

[nickbits]

Memorize basic strategy. Keep in mind it varies slightly based on the number of decks used.

There isn't much else you can do unless you want to count cards.

No idea where the cheap tables. I usually buy in with 10 bets worth. So for a $15 table I buy in $150. That will last the whole night unless you have really bad luck. One time I think I lost 10 in a row, so I was out rather quickly.

 

[jingramm]

Two pieces of advice from me. First is don't sit in the last seat. Second is Google.

There's nothing wrong with the last seat if you know what you're doing. You serve as the guard for the entire table vs. the dealer. You make the right choice then everyone wins.

 

[sactoking]

There's nothing wrong with the last seat if you know what you're doing. You serve as the guard for the entire table vs. the dealer. You make the right choice then everyone wins.

Yeah, third base can be a real lifesaver. There's nothing worse than having someone sit there who doesn't know how to play; they'll hit a 14 against a 6 and take the break card every time...

 

[TallBill]

Two pieces of advice from me. First is don't sit in the last seat. Second is Google.

I'd sit in the last seat because I understand probability and wouldn't sit in the first seat because other people don't and no need to make someone cry.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

There's nothing wrong with the last seat if you know what you're doing. You serve as the guard for the entire table vs. the dealer. You make the right choice then everyone wins.

You guys are unfathomably stupid and neither one of you should bet on anything more complicated than a coin flip. And even then ask a retarded chimp for help on the odds, you won't understand it on your own.

No seat has an advantage over any other and there is no such thing as a guard for the table. Any play the last seat makes vis a vis dealer bust cards has an equal chance to help the table or hurt. Idiot gamblers remember the times an odd play in the last chair hurts them more than they remember the times where it helped them because those instances they foolishly chalk up to their own genius play.

Let me repeat that: You guys are idiots. Sit anywhere you want, do anything you want. Perfect play is merely the slowest possible way to lose and NOTHING anyone else at the table does has any impact on your win/loss percentage in the long run.

 

[Turtle Man]

You guys are unfathomably stupid and neither one of you should bet on anything more complicated than a coin flip. And even then ask a retarded chimp for help on the odds, you won't understand it on your own.

No seat has an advantage over any other and there is no such thing as a guard for the table. Any play the last seat makes vis a vis dealer bust cards has an equal chance to help the table or hurt. Idiot gamblers remember the times an odd play in the last chair hurts them more than they remember the times where it helped them because those instances they foolishly chalk up to their own genius play.

Let me repeat that: You guys are idiots. Sit anywhere you want, do anything you want. Perfect play is merely the slowest possible way to lose and NOTHING anyone else at the table does has any impact on your win/loss percentage in the long run.

Damn, the harshness necessary? Your either a big loser at the game or something. Personally I don't mess with BJ, but I know people who have raked in $50k + a night on BJ and will tell you that seating can be vital.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Damn, the harshness necessary? Your either a big loser at the game or something. Personally I don't mess with BJ, but I know people who have raked in $50k + a night on BJ and will tell you that seating can be vital.

They can tell you than an invisible leprechaun living in their shoes tapped their big toe telling them when to hit or stand. Doesn't make it true.

I'm going to repeat this is the hopes that the harshness leads at least one person to save their money and buy a clue. Math unequivocally proves that all seats at the table have equal odds and also proves that any play any other player makes is equally likely to help or hurt the table regarding the dealer busting or not. If you don't understand those simple and indisputable truths do the world a favor and take your idiot ass out of gambling threads. The first tip on successful gambling is to understand the game as well as humanly possible and if you believe in the myths of seating or weak players in the last chair you understand bupkis.

 

[nickbits]

I agree, seating makes no difference. I also know semi-serious players (my dad) who day otherwise but they are wrong.

 

[Turtle Man]

If your seated in the last position, you have the ability to "card count" by seeing whats played before you, I'm thinking, and improve the odds of not busting. Any ole Joe can't benefit from seating position...

 

[sactoking]

You guys are unfathomably stupid and neither one of you should bet on anything more complicated than a coin flip. And even then ask a retarded chimp for help on the odds, you won't understand it on your own.

No seat has an advantage over any other and there is no such thing as a guard for the table. Any play the last seat makes vis a vis dealer bust cards has an equal chance to help the table or hurt. Idiot gamblers remember the times an odd play in the last chair hurts them more than they remember the times where it helped them because those instances they foolishly chalk up to their own genius play.

Let me repeat that: You guys are idiots. Sit anywhere you want, do anything you want. Perfect play is merely the slowest possible way to lose and NOTHING anyone else at the table does has any impact on your win/loss percentage in the long run.

You're an idiot. Your basic premise is correct in that when playing basic strategy no one seat has an advantage over another. The logical breakdown is you assume that everyone at the table is also playing perfect basic strategy.

If you're playing head's up with the dealer and someone sits to your left and plays like a complete ass they will change all hands that play after them, specifically the dealer's hand. While your play won't change if you sit in the same seat you have two other options: change seats or leave the table.

Blackjack is not an independent trial game like dice; if one player takes a card or does not take a card it effects all subsequent play.

So, I will state it again, playing last at the table can be advantageous if it prevents an idiot from playing there. And you, sir, are an idiot.

 

[Greenman]

I always thought that every time you lose a hand you simply double your next bet. Does that not work?

 

[Turtle Man]

I always thought that every time you lose a hand you simply double your next bet. Does that not work?

Stay away from the BJ table. :biggrin:

 

[the DRIZZLE]

I always thought that every time you lose a hand you simply double your next bet. Does that not work?

It works great..... for the casino. It won't work for you because you don't have an infinite amount of money and the casino has maximum bets.

 

[TallBill]

If your seated in the last position, you have the ability to "card count" by seeing whats played before you, I'm thinking, and improve the odds of not busting. Any ole Joe can't benefit from seating position...

Ahem, see my post above.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I always thought that every time you lose a hand you simply double your next bet. Does that not work?

You mean Martingale :biggrin: That will lead to ruin for the player.

 

[sandorski]

Spectate.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

When I use to play a lot, I tried to play heads up against the dealer. Just to eliminate bad players messing up the deck. Play basic strategy and use whats known as press betting. You have to play every hand correctly to have the lowest odds for the house. Card counting changes the odds in your favor. Bottom line is playing properly, knowing the proper way to bet, STILL means you need to find cold dealers. You also need a bankroll to get pass the bad runs.

 

[Raincity]

They can tell you than an invisible leprechaun living in their shoes tapped their big toe telling them when to hit or stand. Doesn't make it true.

I'm going to repeat this is the hopes that the harshness leads at least one person to save their money and buy a clue. Math unequivocally proves that all seats at the table have equal odds and also proves that any play any other player makes is equally likely to help or hurt the table regarding the dealer busting or not. If you don't understand those simple and indisputable truths do the world a favor and take your idiot ass out of gambling threads. The first tip on successful gambling is to understand the game as well as humanly possible and if you believe in the myths of seating or weak players in the last chair you understand bupkis.

Sitting at third base, you have control on what the dealer’s draws. Also you see what’s already out of the deck and can deviate from basic strategy when it’s in your favor depending on the count. Also good advantage players can drop the table hold % to nothing. If that was not the case. It would not be procedure for table game managers to call up to surveillance when mathematical probability controls the game.

 

[Raincity]

To the origanal poster. Tropicana,Treasure Island, Bills, Riveria, Casino Royal have $5 games at night. Most of them are auto shuffler games. I would go downtown and park my but on the $5 double deck game at Elcortez. Snappers still pay 3/2 and you can double down after spliting cards also.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

You guys are unfathomably stupid and neither one of you should bet on anything more complicated than a coin flip. And even then ask a retarded chimp for help on the odds, you won't understand it on your own.

No seat has an advantage over any other and there is no such thing as a guard for the table. Any play the last seat makes vis a vis dealer bust cards has an equal chance to help the table or hurt. Idiot gamblers remember the times an odd play in the last chair hurts them more than they remember the times where it helped them because those instances they foolishly chalk up to their own genius play.

Let me repeat that: You guys are idiots. Sit anywhere you want, do anything you want. Perfect play is merely the slowest possible way to lose and NOTHING anyone else at the table does has any impact on your win/loss percentage in the long run.

Gag:

If they weren't stupid they'd gamble where the smart people put their chips down: Mid-caps

 

[SSSnail]

You can sit anywhere and destroy a table if you're an idiot.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Learn to count cards