Blizzard just LOL'd at privacy

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lupi

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Yep, have all your chars linked to the one you are posting on and most of the really bad forum troll alts will get taken char of.
 

BoberFett

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That's exactly what they should've done in the first place if the real intent was to reduce trolling.

The intent was never to reduce trolling. They don't give a shit if someone's feelings get hurt. What they do care about further monetizing their forums.
 

kalrith

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The intent was never to reduce trolling. They don't give a shit if someone's feelings get hurt. What they do care about further monetizing their forums.

I said the same thing earlier in the thread and therefore agree with you.
 

Jovec

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No, we didn't win. This was either "Take a mile, give back an inch" calculated to make us think we got something in our favor, or truly an attempt to clean up the boards. RealID is here to stay in much more invasive areas than the official forums.

Blizzard still has the right to sell your personal information to whoever they want.

Blizzard Privacy Policy said:
As with any business, your personal information is also an asset of Blizzard and will become part of our normal business records. As such, we may also disclose your personal information to a third party if we decide to sell a line of business to that third party, so you can continue to receive service and information in connection with that line of business with as little disruption as possible. Similarly, in the event of a merger, acquisition, reorganization, bankruptcy, or other similar event, your personal information may be transferred to Blizzard 's successor or assign.

Please be aware that we cannot control the activities of third parties to whom we provide data, and as such we cannot guarantee that they will adhere to the same privacy and security procedures as Blizzard.

Blizzard just gave Facebook all your data. Gotta have that social networking peer pressure to get new subs, buy the latest DLC, and guilt you into not quitting.

Blizzard Privacy Policy said:
When you are asked for information while on a Blizzard site, you are sharing that information with Blizzard, its parent, and its various affiliates and sister companies, unless specifically stated otherwise. As a result of this sharing, you may receive communications from any of Blizzard's affiliates. In addition, some services are provided in conjunction with partner companies. If your personal information is being collected by another company other than Blizzard, you will be notified at the time the information is collected. If you do not want your information shared, you can choose not to allow the transfer of information by not using that particular service or by not providing any information at that time.

Please be aware that advertisers or websites with links to our sites may collect personal information about you. And remember, this Privacy Policy does not apply to, and cannot control the activities of, those other advertisers or websites.

Activision-Blizzard still wants to nickel and dime you to death. Don't think they will be happy sitting back and collecting your $15/mo sub fee and $40 every two years for expansions. Just look at their two other biggest franchises. Regarding Call of Duty

Bobby Kotick said:
"If you think about the success that we've had in other product categories on subscription, you can get a sense of the direction that we want to take that franchise," he said.

Also, gotta have one every year

Mike Griffith said:
"We also have new business models potentially for the franchise in the future and we've been building capabilities on both the business development side as well as the studio side of it. We remain committed to annualize the Call of Duty franchise."

But why do the work yourself when you can just sell user-created content? Regarding Guitar Hero

Bobby Kotick said:
"the ability to offer these [downloadable] songs on a subscription basis may very well result in the newest subscription opportunity in our portfolio."

The statement, made during a financial conference call, came as Kotick was discussing songs made in GH Tunes, a music creation suite that shipped with all versions of Guitar Hero World Tour (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii) last week.

Of course, the infamous $25 Celestial Steed and all the of paid character services. And we've yet to see if the 3 part release of SC2 will feature a full game's worth of content per as they have said. Or what sort of subscription model / microtransactions D3 will have.

But hey, it only took them 18 days to patch the RealID exploit that allowed AddOns to query your personal info without your knowledge even if you disabled RealID. No, I'm not talking about the console script.
 
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paperfist

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I tend to agree with ModelWorks here. I feel that a lot of this is people over-reacting to a very basic part of all social interaction with other people - the knowledge of what your name is.

Almost no one is afraid to introduce themselves to another person, or be introduced by someone they know. The whole point of having a name is because of the need for it in social interactions. If you never talked to or interacted with other people, you'd have no need for one.

For better or worse, the internet has introduced people into a way to have real social interactions with others without the need to show who you are, generally resulting in people doing really mean and stupid things and then hiding behind their anonymity. The WoW forums, where virtually anyone who has been there knows is a cess-pool of attitudes, insults, and flaming, are trying to shake off that very problem by forcing people to fess up to their behaviors in a public manner, and as someone who has read and posted there - I'm all in favor of anything to clean it up.

Am I afraid of people knowing who I am? Nope. I surf WoW sites at work. My co-workers know I play, and many of them play too. I am not afraid to show people my name, even though it's fairly uncommon. I don't plan on being a jerk to people on the forums or in games, therefore not giving anyone a reason to WANT to try to find out who I really am.

I have been assaulted online previously. Someone has monitored my chats, emails, websites visited, and sent the results to others in an attempt to hurt me. And you know what? It wasn't an anonymous stranger online. It was my ex-girlfriend. I am still not sure how she got access to all of the stuff she did. But even so, I am not afraid of changes like this.

I don't believe it will result in some free-for-all of stealing identities, stalking, and harassment. I think people who claim it will are being a bit paranoid. It's your name. It's not your Social Security number, home address, phone number, and associated picture. Most people who read your post will not care who you really are. I could, very honestly, write a program that randomly assigns common first and last names together, and correctly guess the name of many people who play WoW. And I would know exactly as much as this RealID is going to tell people, except for the content of a post they might make.

If you don't want to show your name, that's fine. Don't post. You can still play the game. Just don't use the official Battle.net forums. Stick to fan sites and you'll still get everything you need, including support most of the time.

This isn't about social interaction, it's about being ostracized. If they want to curb trolling, why don't they take those millions in profits and pay some real moderators?
 

Aikouka

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This isn't about social interaction, it's about being ostracized. If they want to curb trolling, why don't they take those millions in profits and pay some real moderators?

In-game consequences for excessive trolling = severe drop in trolling.

Worst you usually see from forum infractions is a permanent ban on the forums... whoopde-doo!
 

beginner99

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Activision-Blizzard still wants to nickel and dime you to death. Don't think they will be happy sitting back and collecting your $15/mo sub fee and $40 every two years for expansions. Just look at their two other biggest franchises. Regarding Call of Duty

What do you mean by the $15/mo sub fee?

Anyway if you buy SC2 i will sure not use my real name. Probably John Smith or something similiar.
As long as they don't take the billing info, you just have to be "smart".
 

Wyndru

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I thought this was ironic:
http://www.wow.com/2010/07/12/esrb-unintentionally-exposes-email-addresses-of-people-who-filed/

During the recent Real ID catastrophe on the forums, many players decided to appeal to an industry source that might have been able to sway Blizzard to change its mind. These players contacted the ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) as a Better Business Bureau-type middleman in this situation with their concerns.

However, it appears as if the ESRB don't necessarily understand the basics themselves. In what could be called a rookie mistake, the ESRB did a Reply All to everyone who had emailed them with concerns, thus unintentionally exposing almost 1,000 email addresses to the other recipients.

 

Maximilian

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What do you mean by the $15/mo sub fee?

Anyway if you buy SC2 i will sure not use my real name. Probably John Smith or something similiar.
As long as they don't take the billing info, you just have to be "smart".

Pleased to meet you john, im jason voorhees, i come from up camp crystal lake way.

Hell if ill be giving them my real name.

EDIT: lol @ the ESRB
 

Scotteq

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Apr 10, 2008
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...wondering if Blizzard would get the message if a hundred thousand subscribers used "Albert Fish".

Google this name only if you have a strong stomach - If you thought Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy were bad, they were a couple of lightweight p*ssies compared to Albert Fish. This guy was *seriously* deranged.
 
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