But not in downtown cities, a number of which would make you think they were segregated. Leading to a very large statistical increase.
Non-hispanic white people outnumber black people five to one in the general population.
Oh, you were responding to my post which was a response to police shooting, right? Or did you get lost and confused?
The problem with shooting back, is it will do nothing but further militarize the police, and further put them into a mentality that all civilians are the enemy.
Although all the gun nuts should be busting a nut over this, since they claim the 2nd amendment is to fight back against a tyrannical government. Looks like some people take that talking point too seriously.
I think cops shoot way too many people, and those responsible should be severely punished. But killing police officers that have nothing to do with the incidents in question, is completely senseless, counterproductive and in no way provides justice.
^ no idea what "first" means, obviously.
No, buddy, I'm agreeing with you. Blacks are 5x deadlier than white people. How about we educate police on this, ok?Ok buddy - continue to be an apologist for your cause. It's really worked well for you the past 30 years. You can't stand statistics or facts that blacks are FAR more likely to kill someone than any other race.
Do you hear Asians, Indians, and other minority's complain and stop being productive members of society? Ask yourself why that is and your answer on the above will follow.
No, buddy, I'm agreeing with you. Blacks are 5x deadlier than white people. How about we educate police on this, ok?
Tell them that there are five times more white people than black people, yet black people murder just as much as white people.
Every time they do a traffic stop, if the person is black, they are five times more likely to die than if the person was white. Therefore the police must be five times more prepared to shoot in all instances.
No, no, no, Zstream is onto something here. It's all in the data. Just look at it for yourself. Stop being ignorant, as Zstream likes to say.Ugh taking about Fathers, Mothers, Childrens lives like a statistic = fail
How about we talk about appropriate funding for Police, appropriate spending for Police, appropriate community outreach for Police.
No, buddy, I'm agreeing with you. Blacks are 5x deadlier than white people. How about we educate police on this, ok?
Tell them that there are five times more white people than black people, yet black people murder just as much as white people.
Every time they do a traffic stop, if the person is black, they are five times more likely to die than if the person was white. Therefore the police must be five times more prepared to shoot in all instances.
Just FYI it's considered bad form to call out a mod when they are posting as a member.Patronizing behavior towards people you don't agree with is rather unbecoming of an AT mod\employee, whichever you are.
So do you have some sort of solution to this?Ok buddy - continue to be an apologist for your cause. It's really worked well for you the past 30 years. You can't stand statistics or facts that blacks are FAR more likely to kill someone than any other race.
Do you hear Asians, Indians, and other minority's complain and stop being productive members of society? Ask yourself why that is and your answer on the above will follow.
Just FYI it's considered bad form to call out a mod when they are posting as a member.
How is it patronizing? He served up the statistics himself and I'm simply following his own line of logic.Patronizing behavior towards people you don't agree with is rather unbecoming of an AT mod\employee, whichever you are.
This was always the illogic I saw with the 2A (and the public ownership of offensive weapons.)
Fighting back against a perceived "tyrannical govt" would always involve individual or small groups of civilians shooting either cops or military personnel.
The Bundy ranch and Oregon standoff can be seen the same way. They came to a conclusion the govt was oppressive and used guns and self-interpreted constitutional rights to fight back.
Yet it takes seeing a bunch of madmen pointing guns and shooting at LEOs to realise the horror and stupidity of this position.
(Who knows what the actual motive of Dallas was ATM, but the potential exists regardless of actual motive.
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. - Abraham Lincoln
I hope it was terrorists and not BLM extremists. Just saying.
This is what you get when you are perceived as ignoring peoples concerns.
I'm really not understanding the surprise or outrage in this thread.
This is why you have guns in the US isn't it? To fight back against a repressive government. Well that's what a significant amount of people in the US think that you have.
There's huge amount of rhetoric from all sides that your establishment are illegitimate and overbearing. You don't get to walk away from that just because the guy that acted on that shot someone from "your side".
How about you all wind the rhetoric back a bit, realise that the whole "but guns are the answer!" comes with consequences and start listening to the people and their concerns.
Don't see why terrorists would target police as they usually just want as big a death count as possible, but I guess we can't rule it out.
I'll say this, whenever there is a terrorist attack, people say Muslims should call out and stop their own extremists because otherwise they are just enabling them. Well the same should be true for cops, then. Start calling out your "bad apples." Police unions keep protecting the thugs in blue and incidents like this will happen more often.
As someone said, this is why we have the 2A, right? So we can fight back against government tyranny? I bet the shooters feel they were fighting government tyranny. If you are going to go vigilante though, you should at least try to target people that have committed actual offenses. The officers killed and hurt were probably good people.
Just heard a brief new conference with the Police chief. The guy they have said he hates cops, white people and especially white cops. They won't rule out anything at this time but to me this sounds like anarchist/racist remarks.
They later got pulled into the interrogation room, asked if they like killing cops, and told there was video and eye witness evidence of them shooting police (there was not).
I hope it was terrorists and not BLM extremists. Just saying.
Well obama won't say it but it was BLM terrorists. One of the suspects said he wanted to kill white people and kill white police officers. Of course this will never be called a hate crime. I just hope under obamas gun control plan he lists BLM members as terrorists and removes their right to purchase firearms.
Fuck violent leftists.
I don't imagine many are surprised by this? Seems like the next logical step.
There is only so much crap, real or perceived, that people will take before they begin to fight back in whatever way they feel best.