BLM Dallas protest rally shooting

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Atreus21

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Not making sweeping rollbacks for one? Thats like saying "first thing i would do is nothing"

Compared with your idea, doing nothing is the better option.

Glad to see you have some ideas bouncing around that southern brain. oh.

And I'm glad to see you ignored my question. What is "acting white" to you?
 

Wreckem

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Why? If he was contained then what's the rush?

Ultimately I doubt that he had much useful information but theres a certain mindset of "kill him as dead and as quickly as possible" that is probably something that the police need to move away from.

They didn't try to kill him as quickly as possible. This was a multi hour ordeal and they tried negotiating for several hours all while he was continuing to exchange gunfire. Their job was to neutralize an ongoing lethal situation and they did with no further casualties but the terrorist himself.
 

Svnla

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JSt0rm

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Compared with your idea, doing nothing is the better option.



And I'm glad to see you ignored my question. What is "acting white" to you?


I am going to ignore your question because to accurately explain what I'm talking about would require me rehashing a bunch of stuff already talked about. Go use the search feature if you want to read about my ideas.
 

SP33Demon

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They didn't try to kill him as quickly as possible. This was a multi hour ordeal and they tried negotiating for several hours all while he was continuing to exchange gunfire. Their job was to neutralize an ongoing lethal situation and they did with no further casualties but the terrorist himself.
Yep, they had to make sure that his threats of bombs in the area were false, like with the Orlando jihadist. They also had to evacuate El Centro College of students/bystanders. That all takes time.
 

norseamd

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It's actually not taught that way in the Marine Corps from Afghanistan depending on the IED. Who knows what kind this *may* have been. Without knowledge you can't just toss another charge on it. You find the wires, isolate (cut them) and isolate (wrap bare wire with tape). The diddy is obviously 'isolate and isolate'. Then blow in place or pull up (from a distance) to check for booby traps, then blow in place. I'd say I know more about this than probably anyone who posts here, I'm not just talking out of my ass.

And to claim they should have used cs, flash's, gas or anything else without knowing the facts is just idiotic. Nobody here knows the layout of where he was. And I don't think anyone is qualified to try and second guess them. It's like listening to some ignorant news person being wrong about weapons. Like this morning, some "expert" on Fox News said only difference between an assault weapon and hunting rifle is a scope. Just stop by talking about shit you have no idea about.

Was I saying that they absolutely should have used sedative gas instead of a bomb? No, someone said they wished someone would have tried to take the shooter alive before blowing him up with a bomb, and I provided an alternative.

And here is the video in question.

https://youtu.be/b9Pq5JZ2Fd8?t=30m50s
 

Atreus21

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I am going to ignore your question because to accurately explain what I'm talking about would require me rehashing a bunch of stuff already talked about. Go use the search feature if you want to read about my ideas.

You bring up "acting white". I ask you for clarification and you start dodging.

C'mon. You can do it. Won't take 2 minutes.
 

chucky2

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Not making sweeping rollbacks to civil liberties for one.



What does "acting white" mean to you?

More importantly, what does it mean to police officers? Unfortunately, what it means is not having large %'s of people they deal with everyday have needlessly aggressive thug behavior, act like animals, intentionally dress like a F'ing slob, etc., day in day out, year in year out. So, when they have to interact with someone who closely resembles those same little high quality darlings, they aren't already predisposed to being on-guard with them.

I'm sure the answer though will be for masses of police to disregard their working conditions each day or, lol, quit their job - and thus their income and bennies - if they don't like 'the job'. <Ted"IDonTRememberKillingHer"Kennedy>Nevah</Ted"IDontRememberKillingHer"Kennedy> will the answer ever involve a sacrosanct class of people not intentionally acting like animals...that would be ra ra ra raayyycist!
 

dank69

Lifer
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Not to mention the killer was an Army veteran. Take no chances and neutralize the threat, especially a threat who is claiming he can and wants to kill more cops. Ironically, this dipshit actually shot a bunch of his own race (black cop, bystander) at the rally yet claimed to be for BLM. Quite the hero. Another pic:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/07/03/gunman dallas.jpg

Didn't you just post a link to a source that said he expressed anger for BLM? You quoted the line FFS. In case you are STILL confused, the source also said:
Johnson claimed to be a U.S. Army veteran. He also stated he was not affiliated with any groups and stated that he did this alone.

Is it possible for you to stop being retarded?
 

norseamd

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Whether you can or not, that's all anyone does anymore. That's what affirmative action is. That's why shootings involving police generally only make the news when the victim is black and the cop(s) white or at least non-black.

The very first thing we do it seems is prejudge people based on skin color.

Probably because Europeans have made a point of doing so for the last 500 years, so it has thoroughly infected the whole world.
 

blankslate

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Combat Arms?

Otherwise he probably didn't go to the range to qualify more than once every 3 months or so to qualify with the reserves. Of course nothing says he didn't practice on his own.


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Svnla

Lifer
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Lets ask Australia, shall we?

Glad that you mention Australia. See the true cause of shootings yet? Or shall I spell it out for you so you won't pull out the knee jerk clueless ignorant reaction of let ban gun so we will get peace next time.
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Yes, let ban guns => peace.

Let ask Mexico and Brazil how their ban on guns is doing, shall we?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36127224

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33942277

Goodness.

I guess you are equating the US to a 2nd or 3rd world shit hole.

Let's look at the modern 1st world countries shall we? How are their murder rates? How often do cops in those countries kill civilians? How often do civilians kill cops?

This bullshit that happens in the US regarding police and civilians is fairly contained to the US when it comes to the first world countries.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Glad that you mention Australia. See the true cause of shootings yet? Or shall I spell it out for you so you won't pull out the knee jerk clueless ignorant reaction of let ban gun so we will get peace next time.


Whats the true cause?
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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They didn't try to kill him as quickly as possible. This was a multi hour ordeal and they tried negotiating for several hours all while he was continuing to exchange gunfire. Their job was to neutralize an ongoing lethal situation and they did with no further casualties but the terrorist himself.
Read the post I was replying to.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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STFU and read that thread.

I could read that thread and all the links - takes me at least an hour.

Or you could just tell me what you actually mean - takes you 5 minutes.

Considering you brought this up, I think it's on you buddy.
 
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