BLM Dallas protest rally shooting

[Blackjack200]

So I was on Twitter not long after the shooting began and some people were tweeting their cell phone videos which were obviously then re-tweeted a bunch and got the attention of reporters and news producers.

Each tweet would start with a few "OMG are you okay?" type responses, then you'd see one "Hi, I'm from KBBR, I hope you're okay, can we use your video?" and then just an avalanche of responses from other organizations asking the same thing. Then other people would start jumping in and saying "Don't let them use it! Sell it to them!"

Just bizarre.

 

[Wreckem]

Ok, let compare 1st world countries.

How about France? Guns are restrictive yet no peace from guns.

How about Belgium? Same.

Yes, let ban guns => peace per some of you.

Funny how Swiss does not have restriction on guns as the neighbors yet they don't have gun problems as them.

So now terrorism is the same as everyday gun crime in the US.

 

[norseamd]

The root causes of crime are lack of education and lack of employment. And few presidents have done much work to solve these problems.

I would say poverty, oppression, corruption, and yes, crime.

Crime begets crime, and violence begets violence.

 

[Jhhnn]

The root causes of crime are lack of education and lack of employment.

Agreed, in general.

And few presidents have done much work to solve these problems.

Why, that would be interference in the sacred Free Market, also known as ruthless financialized international capitalism seeking the highest return.

I know what kind of Freedom! they want. What kind do you want?

 

[norseamd]

Good then that you agree that the second amendment should open all law abiding citizens to all weapons without limitation. I wouldn't be opposed to the American public securing a few nuclear devices either since that would be checkmate for any potential tyrannical government. As we've seen throughout history simply the possession of such a device can avoid much unneeded bloodshed.

Oh, FFS.

 

[Knowing]

So now terrorism is the same as everyday gun crime in the US.

No one gives even the remotest fraction of a single bowel movement about "every day gun violence" in the United States except for the people who are directly involved and their inner circle.

To everyone else they are statistics to be cleansed of any demographic or location information and used for political ends.

 

[ivwshane]

I guess you are equating the US to a 2nd or 3rd world shit hole.

Let's look at the modern 1st world countries shall we? How are their murder rates? How often do cops in those countries kill civilians? How often do civilians kill cops?

This bullshit that happens in the US regarding police and civilians is fairly contained to the US when it comes to the first world countries.

He also seems to not know that Mexico gets many of its guns from the U.S.. Its why strict gun laws in one state or city are useless when there are lax gun laws in the next city or state over.

 

[norseamd]

Edit : Really the conclusion here is quite clear. Homicide rates have more to do with economics than gun control. When the economy tanks, people start killing each other. When it booms, they stop.

Wasnt the Syrian Civil War preceded by a huge famine, that also happened to be concurrent with the youth bulge across the whole Middle East; which, surprise, surprise, also happens to be concurrent with the Arab Spring?

 

[ivwshane]

God, you're a blathering idiot.

Was my post too real for you? I'm simply taking gun nutters positions to its logical conclusion. Apparently you find their positions offensive, good, because they are.

 

[MrA79]

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

 

[chucky2]

Good then that you agree that the second amendment should open all law abiding citizens to all weapons without limitation. I wouldn't be opposed to the American public securing a few nuclear devices either since that would be checkmate for any potential tyrannical government. As we've seen throughout history simply the possession of such a device can avoid much unneeded bloodshed.

Ironically that might in fact avoid a lot of bloodshed. I don't really see the need to ban Mil type hardware: Hardly anyone could afford it.

You want a 20mm minigun? Super. First, buy it. Then, pay for the setup of it. Then, find a range you can shoot it at. Then, transport it there. And finally, pay for the ammo you're going to shoot. I've never priced it, but, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that 20mm rounds aren't cheap. A thousand of them would be 1000x less cheap. That's, what, a couple seconds of firing?

Rinse repeat for any of the expensive Mil type hardware. About the only thing people would buy that they could reasonably afford would be belt fed machine guns - again, not cheap items and not cheap to buy ammo for.

 

[shady28]

Good then that you agree that the second amendment should open all law abiding citizens to all weapons without limitation. I wouldn't be opposed to the American public securing a few nuclear devices either since that would be checkmate for any potential tyrannical government. As we've seen throughout history simply the possession of such a device can avoid much unneeded bloodshed.

It's been long established that the Constitution allows use of weapons which are of common use.

There is no way to use a nuclear weapon for lawful purposes, and it is not a common weapon.

Neither is artillery nor bazookas, they are specialty weapons employed solely by the military. You are making a straw man argument, which is typical of propaganda from the grossly uninformed.

ie : https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

(f) None of the Court’s precedents forecloses the Court’s interpretation. Neither United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542 , nor Presser v. Illinois, 116 U. S. 252 , refutes the individual-rights interpretation. United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174 , does not limit the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes, but rather limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes. Pp. 47–54.

 

[bshole]

Ok, let compare 1st world countries.

How about France? Guns are restrictive yet no peace from guns.

How about Belgium? Same.

Yes, let ban guns => peace per some of you.

Funny how Swiss does not have restriction on guns as the neighbors yet they don't have gun problems as them.

ROFLMFAO

France's gun murder rate is 0.21 compared to our 3.43. Less that 10 times our own. Talk about shooting your argument in the foot.

I will give you Switzerland. It is unique in that it has high gun ownership rates and very low gun murder rate. They prove that you can have a safe society even with lax gun laws. America however cannot. Can you provide a link that demonstrates that truly restrictive gun laws do not ameliorate the gun murder rate. When I speak of restrictive, I mean restrictive in the same way that machine guns are restricted in America. They once accounted for many murders in America, they now account for none.

 

[bshole]

I wouldn't be opposed to the American public securing a few nuclear devices either since that would be checkmate for any potential tyrannical government.

Dumbest fucking statement made in the history of P&N. This person must be a rabid anti-human who desires the end of mankind as soon as possible.

 

[1prophet]

So now terrorism is the same as everyday gun crime in the US.

When politicians use terrorism in Orlando and San Bernardino as a springboard for gun control legislation it is.

 

[Knowing]

He also seems to not know that Mexico gets many of its guns from the U.S.. Its why strict gun laws in one state or city are useless when there are lax gun laws in the next city or state over.

Which is why we need highly restrictive laws everywhere, right?

You do realize that there was a government program to give the cartels weapons right? It was sort of a big deal because it was a miserable failure at the claimed goal. Also, you recognize that the people purchasing weapons in Mexico are cartels and the main business of cartels is logistics, namely getting contraband long distances and across borders.

Do you wish to imply that the United States is responsible for arming people who are filthy rich and experts in getting contraband across borders, and that if only the United States could implement highly restrictive gun laws those same filthy rich and violently inclined smugglers couldn't find weapons elsewhere?

I mean I recognize that the United States is the number one exporter of weapons (even to backwards religious head chopping gay hating states like Saudi Arabia and moderate extremists in Syria), but you have to understand that there is a number 2 that would be happy fill the gap if we were unable to make our quota.

 

[ivwshane]

Dumbest fucking statement made in the history of P&N. This person must be a rabid anti-human who desires the end of mankind as soon as possible.

Or he might poses a power you do not, the power of satire.

 

[Knowing]

They once accounted for many murders in America, they now account for none.

Prohibition was a helluva time.

 

[ivwshane]

Which is why we need highly restrictive laws everywhere, right?

You do realize that there was a government program to give the cartels weapons right? It was sort of a big deal because it was a miserable failure at the claimed goal. Also, you recognize that the people purchasing weapons in Mexico are cartels and the main business of cartels is logistics, namely getting contraband long distances and across borders.

Do you wish to imply that the United States is responsible for arming people who are filthy rich and experts in getting contraband across borders, and that if only the United States could implement highly restrictive gun laws those same filthy rich and violently inclined smugglers couldn't find weapons elsewhere?

I mean I recognize that the United States is the number one exporter of weapons (even to backwards religious head chopping gay hating states like Saudi Arabia and moderate extremists in Syria), but you have to understand that there is a number 2 that would be happy fill the gap if we were unable to make our quota.

No, I'd like the US to keep its number one ranking, thanks.

 

[Ackmed]

And I'm glad to see you ignored my question. What is "acting white" to you?

I asked him what he meant when he used that line about my wife. Did nothing but dodge it, never answering the question. Accusing others of racism when he uses racist remarks.

 

[norseamd]

I asked him what he meant when he used that line about my wife. Did nothing but dodge it, never answering the question. Accusing others of racism when he uses racist remarks.

Did you see my response?

Was I saying that they absolutely should have used sedative gas instead of a bomb? No, someone said they wished someone would have tried to take the shooter alive before blowing him up with a bomb, and I provided an alternative.

And here is the video in question.

https://youtu.be/b9Pq5JZ2Fd8?t=30m50s

 

[Elganja]

I asked him what he meant when he used that line about my wife. Did nothing but dodge it, never answering the question. Accusing others of racism when he uses racist remarks.

oh no it's okay... African Americans can make racist remarks and not be held accountable, they aren't white so it doesn't matter

 

[shady28]

Wasnt the Syrian Civil War preceded by a huge famine, that also happened to be concurrent with the youth bulge across the whole Middle East; which, surprise, surprise, also happens to be concurrent with the Arab Spring?

I'm not well versed in the middle east's economics, but historically you can track most major wars and revolutions to some kind of economic distress.

Most people look at how war affects the economy, but a close look turns that upside down. Bad economic conditions tends to lead to social upheaval, violence, and sometimes war.

This is really why, IMO, unequal distribution of wealth is an true existential threat. And I'm not talking about race either, that unequal distribution is currently affecting everyone who isn't in the top 20% or so of income earners the country.

 

[Ackmed]

No I just saw it, I'm on my phone sorry. The point of my response to you was just claiming that hey should have thrown another charge on it is just silly. No idea what the hell it was. I could go go into it more but not really relevant now. But can if you want.

oh no it's okay... African Americans can make racist remarks and not be held accountable, they aren't white so it doesn't matter

I'm pretty sure he's white. Not that it matters.

 

[Indus]

So let's see...

Affirmative Action
Minority-only scholarships
Minority-only government contracts
The UNCF
The NAACP
Section 8\HUD
Civil\Voting Rights
SNAP\TANF expansion

Yeah... we haven't done anything for them.

Yeah you sure do.. flying the conservaterrorist ideology and confederate flags.

Which are more noticeable?