Actually there was a satirical video add on the internet by a group of people which basically stated the NRA was making moves to arm African Americans in poor communities for self defense purposes and the NRA basically had a meltdown over it. It appears the NRA is really about guns for everyone but African Americans.That's what I've been asking and no one has been willing to answer it. I'm also wondering where the"all lives matter" people are and why they aren't out protesting the killing of more lives by police.
Trump really? No you fucking idiot it is 7 1/2 years of divisive rhetoric from Obama and the dipshits like holder that Obama had picked to head agencies.
I am surprised Obama was not on TV this morning staying the Dallas sniper could be his son.
If it's not about race, where are the 2nd amendment folks protesting to demand justice for one of their own who got shot just by cops because he informed an officer he is legally carrying a gun?
If it's not about race, where are the 2nd amendment folks protesting to demand justice for one of their own who got shot just by cops because he informed an officer he is legally carrying a gun?
ROFLMFAO
France's gun murder rate is 0.21 compared to our 3.43. Less that 10 times our own. Talk about shooting your argument in the foot.
I will give you Switzerland. It is unique in that it has high gun ownership rates and very low gun murder rate. They prove that you can have a safe society even with lax gun laws. America however cannot. Can you provide a link that demonstrates that truly restrictive gun laws do not ameliorate the gun murder rate. When I speak of restrictive, I mean restrictive in the same way that machine guns are restricted in America. They once accounted for many murders in America, they now account for none.
Because they don't have suicide or gangs in France?
Being non-rational doesn't mean racist.How can you argue that is rational criticism? It shows profound disrespect for two prominent highly educated and successful African individual likely on the basis of race.
I'm certain Obama has been a victim of racism. Criticizing him, even irrationally, doesn't mean racism.Bernie Sanders and many others have been talking about this forever. If you watch members from the Republican party interact with the president is unprecedented how disrespectful. You'll see time and time again people putting their fingers in his face, yelling at him, calling him low level racial slurs over and over, things no other president has ever dealt with.
Really the conclusion here is quite clear. Homicide rates have more to do with economics than gun control. When the economy tanks, people start killing each other. When it booms, they stop.
There seems to be a lot of questions about the dude who supposedly had a CCW permit, though. Take it with a grain of salt for now, I guess.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...do-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/
Another successful buckshat by buckshot!
Are whites out protesting about policing killing white people? Has there been found to be systemic racial bias against white people in precincts where a white person was shot by a cop?
No? Then why would he highlight that? Your white victimhood card noted!
That is because idiot liberals continue to include suicides and gang violence in those statistics. I am not likely to be a victim of gang violence because I stay out of shitry neighborhoods. I am also not likely to be gunned down by someone who decides to end their life with a gun.
Taking away suicides and gang bangers who kill each other that leaves very few people who are victims of gun violence.
Go check FBI stats for yourself. Gun ownership over the last decade is up like 140% while violent crime is down but hey fuck logic.
You mean the gang member? We don't know what he did prior to the video.
I'm a big supporter of body cams, etc, I'd like to know the whole story, and there seems to be evidence he was a gang member.
DittoThere seems to be a lot of questions about the dude who supposedly had a CCW permit, though. Take it with a grain of salt for now, I guess.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-philandocastile-falconheightsshooting-crips-gangmember/
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...do-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/
Guns per gun owner is up, but number of people owning guns is down.
They don't have liberals in France?I am sure they do. But unless the poster I was replying to can provide a source as to how French gun crime stats are gathered... then it is not wise to compare stats between countries. Sure there is gun violence in the U.S. but beyond suicidea stats... violence related to the illegal drugs trade is the next largest percentage of gun deaths in the U.S. all of which is likely a result of the liberals war on poverty started in the 60'same.
And no, it is not my fault if the Dallas PD does not have tranquilizers or sedative gas in their arsenal. It might not be the most essential item to have in their arsenal, but it is one less option available to them, especially since he did not have any hostages around him that could have been detrimentally affected by attempts to knock out the shooter with sedative gas.
Increased militarization of police and the apparent belief that police are supposed to be an occupying force (which in black neighborhoods with high criminality means that the police will be sourced from outside) does in-fact dovetail with killings of white people and people of color who are not just black.
Making it about one race is and can never be anything but discriminatory and I see absolutely no way to resolve the issue if it is attacked exclusively from a discriminatory angle unless the intent is to be divisive. That will be counter productive because you will only make "the racists" more bold.
Even if we want to take the intellectually simple route of blaming everything on racism, you will never solve the problem because you never addressed the reason that the individual (because the institution didn't pull the trigger) racist believed consciously or unconsciously that killing another person was justified.
What's fascinating is that this comes after the Falcon Heights shooting which is probably the closest situation to everyone being on the same page as far as it being unjustified, but of course Dallas is going to overshadow that with the deceased shooter saying he was specifically targeting white cops. Which of course is exactly the way to build bridges. Well done, participation trophy for everyone involved, slow clap so no one gets startled.
While I agree with you, the solution would be a continuation of a global economy and nation building in many countries. Is that something you support?
Propositional fallacies[edit]
A propositional fallacy is an error in logic that concerns compound propositions. For a compound proposition to be true, the truth values of its constituent parts must satisfy the relevant logical connectives that occur in it (most commonly: <and>, <or>, <not>, <only if>, <if and only if>). The following fallacies involve inferences whose correctness is not guaranteed by the behavior of those logical connectives, and hence, which are not logically guaranteed to yield true conclusions.
Types of propositional fallacies:
Affirming a disjunct concluded that one disjunct of a logical disjunction must be false because the other disjunct is true; A or B; A, therefore not B.[8]
Affirming the consequent the antecedent in an indicative conditional is claimed to be true because the consequent is true; if A, then B; B, therefore A.[8]
Denying the antecedent the consequent in an indicative conditional is claimed to be false because the antecedent is false; if A, then B; not A, therefore not B.[8]
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Originally Posted by Knowing
When was the last time an automatic weapon or rocket launcher was used in the commission of a crime in the United States?
I'm simply not scared of things that never happen.
Those things are illegal. Imagine what 80 years of illegal guns would do to our violence levels.
Which of these logical fallacies did you just make?
Here's a clue : It is possible to agree on the root cause of a problem without agreeing on the cure.
He also seems to not know that Mexico gets many of its guns from the U.S.. Its why strict gun laws in one state or city are useless when there are lax gun laws in the next city or state over.
Well, we don't know exactly what percentage of all the recovered guns in Mexico, where they're coming from. But, you know, a Mexican official that we spoke with said that the percentage of guns confiscated in Mexico probably is closer to the 90 percent figure than the 17. If not, fully 90 percent, probably close to that. He said that almost all of the handguns that are confiscated in Mexico come from the United States. And that amongst the assault weapons, while a good number of them are coming from the United States, they're also - that's more of a mixed bag. And they're coming, as well, through some of the drug routes in Eastern Europe and Africa.
Based on the best evidence we can find so far, we conclude that the 90 percent claim made by the president and others in his administration lacks a basis in solid fact.
So now terrorism is the same as everyday gun crime in the US.
ROFLMFAO
France's gun murder rate is 0.21 compared to our 3.43. Less that 10 times our own. Talk about shooting your argument in the foot.
I will give you Switzerland. It is unique in that it has high gun ownership rates and very low gun murder rate. They prove that you can have a safe society even with lax gun laws. America however cannot. Can you provide a link that demonstrates that truly restrictive gun laws do not ameliorate the gun murder rate. When I speak of restrictive, I mean restrictive in the same way that machine guns are restricted in America. They once accounted for many murders in America, they now account for none.
You're saying he's pandering to that group of protesters? What difference does protesters make in what Obama should make comments about? Is he my president too or just for black people? Him pointing out, along with the rest of the left, only black people being shot by police is propaganda (remember that you didn't like that in a president?) He's inciting violence by misrepresenting the facts.Another successful buckshat by buckshot!
Are whites out protesting about policing killing white people? Has there been found to be systemic racial bias against white people in precincts where a white person was shot by a cop?
No? Then why would he highlight that? Your white victimhood card noted!
Lol, are you familiar with the term straw man? I provided what I thought were solutions and asked if you agreed with either of them.
You should probably not call people out on logical fallacies until you understand them.
Machine guns are not illegal. If you have enough money you can buy one and own one legally like many U.S. Citizens actually do.
Machine guns are not illegal. If you have enough money you can buy one and own one legally like many U.S. Citizens actually do.