The scenario argument for guns is this:
If the Dallas shooter had picked a theater, would you rather be able to shoot back, or sit there helpless? Imagine if the Orlando shooter had been put down in the first minute. There are situations where an armed population makes for much better outcomes.
This actually happened just after the Orlando shooting at another club. Someone opened fire, people were shot. Someone carrying put a stop to it. Yet the media didn't run with it like they did when many people were killed, wouldn't have gone with their agenda.
I dont give a fuck if a PD has any in their inventory or not, that is their deal. And you can use them in non-enclosed spaces by making 40mm grenades filled with the gas, and then firing them from a grenade launcher within 10 feet or so of the shooter. And while a parking garage is not a fully enclosed space, it isnt a fully open space either. Any gas cloud is unlikely to instantly disperse.
Again, you do not know the facts of the situation. The guy was in the military with a deployment, he had some knowledge of how to kill in various ways. Did the cops know this? Nope, which is why you don't assume. He was in a make shift bunker. He claimed to have explosives, could have set a trap. You're making an assumption without all the facts, being a Monday morning QB. They should not have risked one more life for this guy. He made the choice, he suffered the consequences. More ignorant comments, just like the media does. There are many people on here who have repeatedly claimed that police should not have 'military type weapons' yet when shit hits the fan, that is exactly what they want. Typical hypocrisy around here though. None of that really matters though as he in fact did not have any explosives on site.
No, I was agreeing with someone who was responding to someone who said something along the lines that "why did they blow up an explosive instead of disarming it", when blowing up IEDs remotely is a common occurrence, since cutting wires means a human who is next to a bomb for a notable length of time, and more time means more exposure. Disarming them, or blowing them up, is all fine with me, whatever is most appropriate for the situation. And the video I was mentioning, and linked for you, was just how they dealt with one particular IED. Basically I was saying, that just blowing up an IED, instead of taking the time and risk to disarm it, isnt necessarily a bad thing on its own.
Again, things do not always go as planned. Sympathetic detonation does not always work, what then? The charges have to be very close to each other in order for that to work. Do we know what type of charge it could have been? Nope. C4 splatter is very bad, which could have easily happened. I do agree that blowing it up isn't necessarily a bad thing as apposed to trying to disarm it. No more risk of life other than his was worth it at the time imo. But as I said, it doesn't always work. I did a 'medal of honor' run once doing the exact same thing. We set a charge to blow an 40lb IED in place, it didn't go off. We were taking heavy machine gun and RPG fire, and an entire battalion was waiting on us to clear an area where we tried to blow the IED. I had to (literally) run and then crawl to it and place another charge on it and blow it in place, after we had already cut the wires from the first time of course. Got written up for a bronze star with a V, got a NAM with a V instead. Yes I have documentation and a few pics to back this up. I am not saying this to sound like a billy bad ass, but I have a pretty vast experience with explosives and pros/cons to disarming them. This happened almost exactly 6 years ago and this is the first time I have spoken of it here. It just annoys me when people with little to no experience make ignorant comments like they could have done better and know better than the people there trained to do it. The media is king of this, as we have seen recently.
I assume its driving while black.
Funny, my wife has been pulled over twice in her life time, no tickets. While driving black. While I have been pulled over too many for me to know, although not in a long time. Received many tickets and my license suspended twice, while driving white. 4 tickets within two weeks once even. Know what the difference was? I was driving like a jackass and breaking the law in various ways. She was not. It's not just black and white, stop being so dense.
First time anyone has asked me to compare bodies on the internet. :wub:
oh and dont think about my body when you sex your wife. It will be weird
Again you pop smoke and insult.
You made a statement, you were asked to clarify. The other poster was correct, that is how posting on forums generally works. He asked what does "acting white" mean, since you said it. You did not explain and instead insulted. I said you said the same thing about my wife, you denied it and insulted me. I gave you proof that you indeed say it, yet you ignore it and insult again. You profiled someone by where they live, calling them fat. Yet you call people out if they profile people, calling them racist and bigots. Thats hypocritical of you, but not uncommon. You called someone fat because of where they live, I stated that I too live in the same area and asked you to put up or shut up. Instead you avoid and insult again. Don't say things if you aren't going to back them up, pretty common sense.
The FACTS are, you made racist comments, and didn't clarify. Because there is no justification for what you said. Instead of trying to explain all you do is deny and insult. When proven that you lied, you again deny and insult.
Yeah yeah, long multi person post. I didn't read it all last night and just did.