BLM Dallas protest rally shooting

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Vic

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You don't think the shooter(s) did this as a form of protest?
This was far too well organized. Protesters throw rocks and molotov cocktails. I suspect this was terrorism.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Christ, is the idea of violent protest inconceivable to some posters here?

WTF?

Did you see what I wrote? Here it is again.

Shooting cops that have nothing to do with the recent shootings

See it? Do you want me to say it again?

WTF x 1000000000000 indeed.

So the mass shooting in FL, CA, etc., mass bombings at several locations (Turkey, Iraq, etc.), and on and on = just violent protests to you, right? Keep digging deeper.
 
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Jaskalas

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This was far too well organized. Protesters throw rocks and molotov cocktails. I suspect this was terrorism.

It could be terrorism based on the protest, but it's far too early to know that. We have to wait and see what the police uncover as they search for the suspects.
 

JSt0rm

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Sep 5, 2000
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You cannot shoot police officers. Period. And guns, of course, but I will not talk about guns today.


300 million guns in the country. It isnt hard for people to fight back against perceived wrongs.

Violence is never the correct answer but some will take its call.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I'll jump in...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/philando-castile-alton-sterling-josh-earnest/index.html

Obama and Biden weighing in - Fueling what could be a false narrative that is fueling public opinion of these shootings. Investigations only just begun, but their comments point to them indicting the police in both recent shootings.

It is reprehensible that a president, VP or other high ranking elected official even offer commentary like that that points a finger before the facts are known and investigations are concluded. The public gets enough of that shit via the talking heads on the media and on social media... ***But nobody carries as much influence as the POTUS does when he opens his mouth and speaks on a topic.

They carry perhaps part of the blame for what happened tonight in Dallas.

You are fucking reprehensible and scum.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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this is not gonna end well...

Obviously not! But what do you expect when people are dying and Trump is inciting a 2nd civil war and protections for police who just shoot people for no reason?

If there were convictions for the select cops who were bad.. then yes people would trust the criminal justice system but we all know what is wrong with it.. if you're a minority you're denied bail but if you're Bernie Madoff you get to stay in your penthouse.

BTW don't try taking my guns away now!
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
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So again, waiting for investigations and facts only matters when a cop shoots someone? Right now, all we know is that cops got shot by someone at a BLM protest, no idea who the shooters were or what their motivation was. They could be skinheads for all you know. Maybe you should at least wait until the shooters are caught before you start blaming everyone who wants police to have a little bit a responsibility.


I always argue for waiting. I made quite the plea in the recent police shooting.

It never works.

People just jump right in immediately, stake out a position early, and often encourage the violence.

This is happening even outside of the police shootings. such as with university protests.

No one ever admits they were wrong later, either.

They shout from the rooftops 5 minutes after the incident, but say nothing after the full story comes out later.
 

WackyDan

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https://mobile.twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/status/751235966505881600/video/1

@ 18 seconds in that video. That's not the actions of someone who is an active shooter...

I would agree... and the police moving around him aren't really noticing him either. Open carry is legal in Texas no? His carrying at the protest may have been his own form of subtle protest...Just like the guy they took down after that wearing a bullet proof vest... Which he was probably wearing as part of his protesting.

Either way, makes them people of interest, and right now if that black guy with the rifle had nothing to do with the shooting he is regretting being there with his rifle.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
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This was far too well organized. Protesters throw rocks and molotov cocktails. I suspect this was terrorism.

They just needed more space to be violent...well, not really of course.

Still hard to believe a prosecutor said that...
 

Humpy

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The key is "real or perceived". They are protesting two recent shootings where nobody knows the exact details. The court of public opinion has ruled and therefore they march and some assholes decided to escalate based on that initial bias.

So much fucking wrong with this.

Agreed.

It is why governing and peacekeeping has to be done so carefully. Perceptions are as dangerous as reality.
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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My concern now is how much of a copy cat risk this poses. If something similar were to happen in just one or two more places randomly around the country over the weekend then we could have really big problems.
 

OCNewbie

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Christ, is the idea of violent protest inconceivable to some posters here?

WTF?

And what exactly is the message of their protest? Shooting dead random police officers doesn't really send a clear message, which is usually integral to a protest.
 

evident

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This was far too well organized. Protesters throw rocks and molotov cocktails. I suspect this was terrorism.

Quite possibly - piggybacking on the BLM protests to incite even more fear and hatred all around. these events are ripe for something like this. This sucks
 

Humpy

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This was far too well organized. Protesters throw rocks and molotov cocktails. I suspect this was terrorism.

For it to fit the standard idea of terrorism they would have just happened to be in the area to attack a spontaneous event. Too coincidental IMO.
 

lopri

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Jul 27, 2002
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I'll jump in...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/philando-castile-alton-sterling-josh-earnest/index.html

Obama and Biden weighing in - Fueling what could be a false narrative that is fueling public opinion of these shootings. Investigations only just begun, but their comments point to them indicting the police in both recent shootings.

It is reprehensible that a president, VP or other high ranking elected official even offer commentary like that that points a finger before the facts are known and investigations are concluded. The public gets enough of that shit via the talking heads on the media and on social media... ***But nobody carries as much influence as the POTUS does when he opens his mouth and speaks on a topic.

They carry perhaps part of the blame for what happened tonight in Dallas.
You are wacky, indeed.
 

Zorba

Lifer
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Which was indeed fucking criminal. Congrats on missing that altogether.

No fucking shit? It just you hypocrites that want everyone to want until an internal, biased, investigation is completed any time a civilian is killed, but as soon as a cop is killed you know all the facts, before the shooters are even identified. Yeah, blame Obama, you have no idea what the motivation of this shooting was, period, no idea. So maybe you should wait until there are a few more details than "police shot during BLM rally, no suspects identified."

Maybe it was a BLM protester that got extremized by a governor apologizing to a widow, but at this point it could also be a skinhead trying to make BLM look bad.
 

OCNewbie

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Yeah, no shit.

So many cops would have shot him without due process, or even allowing him the chance to give himself up.

In a video someone shared earlier, a number of cops ran right by him while he had his gun slung over his shoulder.
 

Humpy

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Mar 3, 2011
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Did you see what I wrote? Here it is again.



See it? Do you want me to say it again?

WTF x 1000000000000 indeed.

So the mass shooting in FL, CA, etc., mass bombings at several locations (Turkey, Iraq, etc.), and on and on = just violent protests to you, right? Keep digging deeper.

Okay.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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ABC News Nightline is running the story about this right now. Stay tuned.
 
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