No they are not slightly less punchy than a .308, this is the round that is used in the AK-47, it is not even close to the .308, probably more similar to the 5.56 and 5.45 cartridges. And if fact, I have been told that the 5.56 and 5.45 are generally all around much superior rounds to the 7.62x39mm Soviet. The .308 is what is known as an intermediate cartridge, a slightly reduced version of the old full-power rifle cartridges like the 30-06, 7.62x54mmR, and 7.92x57mm.
And I am laughing my ass of about the inevitable outrage over an old WW2 rifle that is going to be steamrolling by.
homie already blasted 12 cops, f that guy.
There was some discussion earlier in the thread speculating on what kind of weapon was used in Dallas.
Turns out it is an SKS (image below).
It has a non removable magazine that holds 10 7.62x39 mm rounds, slightly less punchy than the .308 which is 7.62x51. Anyway, these kinds of rounds are meant to kill, not wound like the AR-15's .223 / 5.56
This technically is not an assault rifle. It's just a rifle.
Yeh, just imagine how many more people he might have killed with a more modern weapon.
The assertion that the 5.56 round is intended to wound rather than to kill is pure unadulterated bullshit, btw. The slug has a very thin jacket & is designed to tumble & come apart on impact with soft tissue thus releasing all it's energy as massive hydrodynamic shock. The slug from a 7.62x39 round has a much heavier jacket & isn't designed to tumble so it often carries a much higher % of its initial energy when it exits the far side of the target.
There was some discussion earlier in the thread speculating on what kind of weapon was used in Dallas.
Turns out it is an SKS (image below).
It has a non removable magazine that holds 10 7.62x39 mm rounds, slightly less punchy than the .308 which is 7.62x51. Anyway, these kinds of rounds are meant to kill, not wound like the AR-15's .223 / 5.56
This technically is not an assault rifle. It's just a rifle.
Number of times it is called an "assault rifle" is fucking ridiculous. Liberals are retards.
Yep, that's what I've heard. What a strange choice.
Here's a picture of the round my last rifle purchased takes VS a 223/5.56
Bullshit, relatively, in concern to your argument and the subject it concerns, you have 2 tribes of white people, one that only sees white people as human, and everyone else as evil, inferior, dirty animals, and the other tribe who sees white people, either overall or with a terrible history, as evil, degenerate scum, and everyone as being holy, denigrated, angels that can do no wrong. Not every white person is in those 2 tribes, and does not mean that there are not more tribes besides those 2 mentioned.
If this is really your belief than you are one of the deniers yourself.
7.62x39 is nowhere near comparable to a 5.56. I've shot plenty of both and can tell you my old Mosin puts out one hell of a kick more than either a m4 or m16.
They were cheap imported like crazy. No one really wanted them. A design from WWII that really only appealed to collectors or hobbyists. Even into the 2000s they were sub $100 rifles. Only in the past few years have supplies dried up and prices increased.
But, AR-15.
Well, for range and accuracy the 5.56 is definitely superior.
But the 7.62x39mm is a better killer. The only reason I mentioned the .308 is b/c in earlier discussion, we speculated the shooter used a .308 or 7.62x51 (which are both .30 caliber rounds) because of the sound in the videos. The sound of a 7.62 is much more of a "boom" sound than a "crack" like a .223 / 5.56
I own both a .223 "AR" and a .308 Enfield (WW I era bolt action).
If you are deer hunter, the 7.62 is legal for use to hunt deer. The 5.56 in most states is not because it would be likely to wound and not kill the target.
My bet would be that he bought his SKS at a gun show. The gun is at least 45 years old, probably older.
Just maybe the only option is for ALL guns to be banned. All of them.
And re-write or remove the second amendment from the constitution.
Doesn't look like anything is going to change with the gun violence. And as far as getting help for the lone wolf, the mentally disturbed, addressing the warning signs, well that doesn't appear to be an answer.
You can't stop what you don't know.
Will there come a time when the violence and the love for guns threatens every citizen?
When the cops become pointless and helpless and the citizenry all sitting ducks?
Just maybe a full on gun ban is necessary nation wide.
Anyone caught with a gun will be arrested and serve time.
Anyone caught selling guns will be arrested and serve time.
And household where a gun is found on the premise, the owner arrested and sent to jail.
And all guns confiscated.
Is this the only true answer for the violence in America?
Is this the only true answer for the violence in America?
It is certainly bigger than a 5.56, but I doubt its more than halfway between the 5.56mm and 7.62x51mm NATO. The 5.56 and 7.62x39 are both controllable in fully automatic fire. The 7.62x51mm NATO, which itself was a modification of the 30-06 for the purpose of making it controllable in fully automatic fire, generally was considered still not sufficiently controllable. The 7.62x51mm NATO and 7.62x54mmR have generally been relegated to MMGs and specialist rifles, usually for marksmen and snipers.
7.62x39 is nowhere near comparable to a 5.56. I've shot plenty of both and can tell you my old Mosin puts out one hell of a kick more than either a m4 or m16.
does you Mosin have a buffer and buffer spring? have you ever fired a .223 hard stock rifle? they do kick quite a bit.
It is certainly bigger than a 5.56, but I doubt its more than halfway between the 5.56mm and 7.62x51mm NATO. The 5.56 and 7.62x39 are both controllable in fully automatic fire. The 7.62x51mm NATO, which itself was a modification of the 30-06 for the purpose of making it controllable in fully automatic fire, generally was considered still not sufficiently controllable. The 7.62x51mm NATO and 7.62x54mmR have generally been relegated to MMGs and specialist rifles, usually for marksmen and snipers.
having gone to M-60 machine gun school and shot 10's of thousand of rounds of 7.62 i can say you are an idiot. the reason the 7.62 has less powder is to reduce the pressure due to military machine guns having shorter barrels than long hard fixed rifle barrels. Also the headspace difference between the two guns is a factor, a military MG has a much looser headspace due to the mechanics of the gun and other reasons. it has NOTHING to do with control.