BLM: Falcon Heights police fatally shot man

SheHateMe

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So he tells the cop he is licensed to carry and then says he is getting his wallet and the cop just shoots him through the window....with his kid in the backseat.


Meanwhile, White Nationalists in Georgia can reach for their holsters in heated arguments and the Police stand there and try to calm things down. You can go on Youtube and find plenty of videos of white people disobeying Police orders, some of them have weapons, and the first thing that comes out are tasers and pleas to drop weapons and get down on the ground. But yall want to tell me how to feel about it.


What a time to be alive. Whats going to happen next is white folks are going to try and find some dirt on this guy so they can call him a thug and say it was a good shoot.
 
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dank69

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Those officers are scared little bitches. Perfect candidates to give a badge and a gun.
 

LTC8K6

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So he tells the cop he is licensed to carry and then says he is getting his wallet and the cop just shoots him through the window....with his kid in the backseat.


Meanwhile, White Nationalists in Georgia can reach for their holsters in heated arguments and the Police stand there and try to calm things down. You can go on Youtube and find plenty of videos of white people disobeying Police orders, some of them have weapons, and the first thing that comes out are tasers and pleas to drop weapons and get down on the ground. But yall want to tell me how to feel about it.


What a time to be alive. Whats going to happen next is white folks are going to try and find some dirt on this guy so they can call him a thug and say it was a good shoot.

I'm glad you already know all you need to know to make a decision and stick with it.

Hopefully, the rest of us will wait a few days at least, until accurate info is released, before attacking groups of people over what happened.
 

bshole

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So he tells the cop he is licensed to carry and then says he is getting his wallet and the cop just shoots him through the window....with his kid in the backseat.


Meanwhile, White Nationalists in Georgia can reach for their holsters in heated arguments and the Police stand there and try to calm things down. You can go on Youtube and find plenty of videos of white people disobeying Police orders, some of them have weapons, and the first thing that comes out are tasers and pleas to drop weapons and get down on the ground. But yall want to tell me how to feel about it.


What a time to be alive. Whats going to happen next is white folks are going to try and find some dirt on this guy so they can call him a thug and say it was a good shoot.

I cannot fathom how this officer can avoid a prison sentence in this instance. My thoughts are with the family of the victim.
 

bshole

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I'm glad you already know all you need to know to make a decision and stick with it.

Hopefully, the rest of us will wait a few days at least, until accurate info is released, before attacking groups of people over what happened.

Are you nuts? You need the police spin to know the truth? ITS ON FUCKING FILM FOR GODS SAKE!
 

SheHateMe

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I'm glad you already know all you need to know to make a decision and stick with it.

Hopefully, the rest of us will wait a few days at least, until accurate info is released, before attacking groups of people over what happened.

Interesting you want me to reserve judgement but Anandtech P&N has no problems talking about what problems minorities people have when stuff like this happens.


So, you want me to be quiet while the rest of you can say whatever you want.
 

SheHateMe

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Love how the cop is just nervous shouting the F word and screaming and making all that noise.


You ask a guy for his ID, he goes to get it...and you kill him.


Then you detain his girlfriend in handcuffs and put the kid in the backseat of the cop car with her.

God Bless America.
 
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Just saw some of it on the news. I have a problem with a broken tail light stop ending up with a shooting.

I will say I believe there is more to this than it appears, maybe he didn't communicate well about his legal gun but I do agree black guys are definitely under more obligation when they carry a gun and that's not right if you support open carry.
 

dank69

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Just saw some of it on the news. I have a problem with a broken tail light stop ending up with a shooting.

I will say I believe there is more to this than it appears, maybe he didn't communicate well about his legal gun but I do agree black guys are definitely under more obligation when they carry a gun and that's not right if you support open carry.

Open carry, concealed carry, any carry is only for real Americans.
 

HomerJS

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Love how the cop is just nervous shouting the F word and screaming and making all that noise.


You ask a guy for his ID, he goes to get it...and you kill him.


Then you detain his girlfriend in handcuffs and put the kid in the backseat of the cop car with her.

God Bless America.

Not the first time. Remember Levar Jones? The unarmed black man shot by cop after traffic stop. Cop ordered him to get ID. He complies and cop shoots him.

So here are the new rules for being black and police interactions. Or at least what seems to be happening.

Fail to comply, shot
Comply, shot
Exercise your constitutional rights, shot.
Legally purchase firearm, shot
Legally carry gun, shot
Carry toy gun, shot
 

glenn1

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Are you nuts? You need the police spin to know the truth? ITS ON FUCKING FILM FOR GODS SAKE!

Can't watch the video because it's likely NSFW but from the description it sounds like it only covers the period after the shooting, not during. Now that may be enough to draw reasonable conclusions but someone else saying they hope more evidence comes to light before making final judgement isn't like they're being a Holocaust denier.
 

1prophet

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Legally carrying doesn't count for black people.

Gun control has always been racist but lily white liberals won't mention any of that.
https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html
The Racist Roots of Gun Control
The historical record provides compelling evidence that racism underlies gun control laws -- and not in any subtle way. Throughout much of American history, gun control was openly stated as a method for keeping blacks and Hispanics "in their place," and to quiet the racial fears of whites. This paper is intended to provide a brief summary of this unholy alliance of gun control and racism, and to suggest that gun control laws should be regarded as "suspect ideas," analogous to the "suspect classifications" theory of discrimination already part of the American legal system.



Racist arms laws predate the establishment of the United States. Starting in 1751, the French Black Code required Louisiana colonists to stop any blacks, and if necessary, beat "any black carrying any potential weapon, such as a cane." If a black refused to stop on demand, and was on horseback, the colonist was authorized to "shoot to kill." [1] Slave possession of firearms was a necessity at times in a frontier society, yet laws continued to be passed in an attempt to prohibit slaves or free blacks from possessing firearms, except under very restrictively controlled conditions. [2] Similarly, in the sixteenth century the colony of New Spain, terrified of black slave revolts, prohibited all blacks, free and slave, from carrying arms. [3]


In the Haitian Revolution of the 1790s, the slave population successfully threw off their French masters, but the Revolution degenerated into a race war, aggravating existing fears in the French Louisiana colony, and among whites in the slave states of the United States. When the first U. S. official arrived in New Orleans in 1803 to take charge of this new American possession, the planters sought to have the existing free black militia disarmed, and otherwise exclude "free blacks from positions in which they were required to bear arms," including such non-military functions as slave-catching crews. The New Orleans city government also stopped whites from teaching fencing to free blacks, and then, when free blacks sought to teach fencing, similarly prohibited their efforts as well. [4]


It is not surprising that the first North American English colonies, then the states of the new republic, remained in dread fear of armed blacks, for slave revolts against slave owners often degenerated into less selective forms of racial warfare. The perception that free blacks were sympathetic to the plight of their enslaved brothers, and the dangerous example that "a Negro could be free" also caused the slave states to pass laws designed to disarm all blacks, both slave and free. Unlike the gun control laws passed after the Civil War, these antebellum statutes were for blacks alone. In Maryland, these prohibitions went so far as to prohibit free blacks from owning dogs without a license, and authorizing any white to kill an unlicensed dog owned by a free black, for fear that blacks would use dogs as weapons. Mississippi went further, and prohibited any ownership of a dog by a black person. [5]
rest of history of racist gun control at link
 

tracerbullet

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Your thread title is incorrect. Falcon Heights doesn't have police, they pay Roseville for that. A Roseville officer fatally shot the guy. I'm just messing with you and don't really care about the title. But FYI.

As far as the point of the post, I haven't seen the video but also believe it didn't get started until after the shooting. Please tell me if I'm wrong and I'll find a way to watch it.

I find it hard to believe someone with a wife and kid in their car would want to shoot an officer who pulled them over for a traffic stop, and I also find it hard to believe that in that area of town in 2016 an officer would be itching for an opportunity to shoot someone. I'd guess it was a brief moment of fear, reaction and probably error on the cop's part but it's nothing more than my guess. I wasn't there and I don't have any evidence whatsoever.

*Edit*

After chiding about what city the cop was from it turns out it was St. Anthony. Local paper had it wrong. I should have left it alone!
 
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HomerJS

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Your thread title is incorrect. Falcon Heights doesn't have police, they pay Roseville for that. A Roseville officer fatally shot the guy. I'm just messing with you and don't really care about the title. But FYI.

As far as the point of the post, I haven't seen the video but also believe it didn't get started until after the shooting. Please tell me if I'm wrong and I'll find a way to watch it.

I find it hard to believe someone with a wife and kid in their car would want to shoot an officer who pulled them over for a traffic stop, and I also find it hard to believe that in that area of town in 2016 an officer would be itching for an opportunity to shoot someone. I'd guess it was a brief moment of fear, reaction and probably error on the cop's part but it's nothing more than my guess. I wasn't there and I don't have any evidence whatsoever.

The video starts after the shooting. However, you need to watch and judge actions/statements by both the cop and the girlfriend. Then use your best judgment.
 

Toastedlightly

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This is interesting as Tracerbullet pointed out, that isn't a part of town I would expect anyone to be on edge in.

I read some transcripts from the video and am withholding judgement until I learn more. Sad story though.
 

cbrunny

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Yeah that cop is definitely going to prison. If he even makes it there. This is pretty bad.
 
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Black people should start wearing the body cameras cops are starting to wear. They just need ones that don't "fall off" so easily.
Kind of sad

I do have a feeling there is more to this like the cop didn't hear or understand that the guy had a gun. Which isn't an excuse for the cop but again I have trouble with a pretty mundane traffic stop ending with a shooting, especially with a child in the car. Obviously something went wrong.
 

sm625

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The occifer is just doing his part to make sure the widow gets on welfare. Gotta increase those democrat voter rolls somehow.

Take some time away to think about NOT posting your prejudices - which are many.
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The occifer is just doing his part to make sure the widow gets on welfare. Gotta increase those democrat voter rolls somehow.

Dude this comment is completely uncalled for, inappropriate and vile you should delete it.
Seriously think about a 7 year old watching his/her Father shot by the Police for nothing. Literally nothing. You use this as an opportunity to spout partisan crap.
 
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SheHateMe

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Obviously the cop was scared of the black dude. You can hear him whining even as he's pointing a gun at the gun while he's bleeding out.

Once they detain the girlfriend, you still hear him in the back flipping out.


This guy had no record, he had a license to carry and from all appearances, he was a good dude with a legit job. He had ZERO reason to try and pull his gun on a cop (with a 7 year old in the back seat) during a traffic stop for a tail light. I know some people are foaming at the mouth for an opportunity to blame him for being killed. I don't see it happening. The cop messed up.



The occifer is just doing his part to make sure the widow gets on welfare. Gotta increase those democrat voter rolls somehow.


*sigh*
 
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