BLM: In light of everything we know today were their issues valid?

[darkswordsman17]

First part of that was a right wing lie.

Tell me what is more disrespectul to troops...

A. Kapernick taking a knee to protest police abuse?
B. Trump mocking John McCain because he was a POW and was tortured for 5 years during the Vietnam War. The same war Trump avoided using bone spurs.

Once you answer that I will give you a conclusion

Hit the "Click to expand..." part on the post you quoted.

 

[Meghan54]

You missed the forest.

It's willful and intentional.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You dont get it. At all.
You dont have a fucking clue.

Oh no, he gets it. The Uber committed pro-birther understands life has value. It's just certain lives carry more value than others. So people committed to this reasoning come up with deceptive ways to discredit the BLM movement, and many 'Muricans fall in place to espouse the same terrible rhetoric.

All lives matter? Deceptive at best, because their fine print is how much they matter

Blue lives matter? I've yet to meet a blue person. Oh? You mean police? They're not blue, idiots.

 

[HomerJS]

Oh no, he gets it. The Uber committed pro-birther understands life has value. It's just certain lives carry more value than others. So people committed to this reasoning come up with deceptive ways to discredit the BLM movement, and many 'Muricans fall in place to espouse the same terrible rhetoric.

All lives matter? Deceptive at best, because their fine print is how much they matter

Blue lives matter? I've yet to meet a blue person. Oh? You mean police? They're not blue, idiots.

Some people conveniently forget. That blue can be taken off at the end of the day. My black stays on 24/7.

It's not a blue life but a blue uniform, stupid

 

[HomerJS]

I wonder how many right wingers think BLM is Bureau of Land Management and raging because of that. Then again, that even seems intertwined with their racism, see the craven Bundy pontificating about blacks and slavery completely unprompted when being interviewed about his "protest" of illegally grazing his cattle on land he didn't own.

He was a hero to the righties. Took up arms against the Feds and put black people in their place.

A 2-fer

 

[Atreus21]

I'll keep it simple.

We have to remind people like you that our lives matter as much as yours because we are treated like they aren't.

Not by me. And not by "people like me." You shouldn't allow prejudice to inform such accusations.

Have you ever bothered read this thread?

YAEWBT - Yet another existing while black thread. Modified to all purpose harassment

Cliff notes version. Black Yale grad student takes a nap on school grounds after studying. White student enters the room, says black student can't sleep here and she will call police. Black student questioned by police and records encounter. Black student forced to "justify her existence" to...

forums.anandtech.com

Because if you have you are either a fucking moron or an apologist for racists or a racist yourself. People like you still think people like me are treated equally?

Personal attacks and insults are supposed to be off limits in this forum.

Treated by whom?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Not by me. And not by "people like me." You shouldn't allow prejudice to inform such accusations.



Personal attacks and insults are supposed to be off limits in this forum.

Treated by whom?

1) if you're asking someone to define "black lives matter", you're either a) being deliberately obtuse and willfully ignorant, or b) truly unaware - in which case it actually does need to be explained to you because you honestly don't know.

2) egregious personal insults are off limits. that doesn't mean no insults. you can call me a moron. if i call you a half-paragraph long hyphenated insult, that's egregious

Page 28 - Announcement - Insults and Personal Attacks No Longer Allowed!

Page 28 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

forums.anandtech.com

3) see 1a - deliberately obtuse. by individuals and society at large. see: police interaction, criminal justice system, bias before and during employment (having a "black" sounding name gets you about as many interviews as being a white dude who has a felony record). the list is endless.

 

[interchange]

Does anyone really think that there aren't police killings of black men which aren't at least partially motivated by racial bias?

Even where perceptions differ from objective reality, those perceptions themselves have clear relevance to our function as a society.

If the question is simply whether BLM's mission represents a valid and important social issue, I sure as hell would like to see someone's logic who comes up with any answer different than "yes, why do we even have to ask?".

 

[Atreus21]

1) if you're asking someone to define "black lives matter", you're either a) being deliberately obtuse and willfully ignorant, or b) truly unaware - in which case it actually does need to be explained to you because you honestly don't know.

I ask for clarification because it's unclear to me what it means. It obviously doesn't mean what it says literally, otherwise its adherents wouldn't bristle at the rejoinder "all lives matter."

2) egregious personal insults are off limits. that doesn't mean no insults. you can call me a moron. if i call you a half-paragraph long hyphenated insult, that's egregious

Page 28 - Announcement - Insults and Personal Attacks No Longer Allowed!

Page 28 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

forums.anandtech.com

Perk's opening sentence from that thread: "In order to be in compliance with recent EU regulations an as yet unadopted EU white paper, posters in P&N will no longer be allowed to levy ad hominems or any sort of personal attacks against another poster."

 

[VashHT]

I don't think there's any that would be potent enough.



I just noticed...is that guy wearing a robe with a pot leaf on it?

I think that might be a buckeye leaf, it looks quite similar to a pot leaf.

As for what BLM means, it's been explained many times that all it means is they want people to recognize that black people's lives matter as much as everyone elses. Pretending not to know at this point is kind of ridiculous, I have seen it repeatedly explained without even trying to find it, and it's straight forward.

 

[HomerJS]

Not by me. And not by "people like me." You shouldn't allow prejudice to inform such accusations.



Personal attacks and insults are supposed to be off limits in this forum.

Treated by whom?

You've been around here long enough to know about BLM. I assumed a modicum of intelligence discern the groups mission based on their title. Clearly I overestimated yours.

My question was, to paraphrase has their mission been validated based on current events? You pretended not to know who they were or what they were trying to accomplish.

Whether you lack of intelligence is real or feigned only you can answer that.

Now, if you are trying to make some correlation between BLM and the pro life issue, just say it. I have an answer.

 

[sactoking]

"All lives matter" is insulting and minimizes the impact of "Black lives matter" in the same way as telling a starving person that they should stop complaining because everyone needs to eat and gets hungry eventually.

 

[Atreus21]

You've been around here long enough to know about BLM. I assumed a modicum of intelligence discern the groups mission based on their title. Clearly I overestimated yours.

My question was, to paraphrase has their mission been validated based on current events? You pretended not to know who they were or what they were trying to accomplish.

Whether you lack of intelligence is real or feigned only you can answer that.

Now, if you are trying to make some correlation between BLM and the pro life issue, just say it. I have an answer.

Man you love to get personal.

Black Lives Matter's meaning clearly isn't only that black lives matter. No normal person would deny that black lives matter. No normal person would ever say any life doesn't.

I wanted clarification because it appears to mean different things to different people.

If the mission of BLM was to call attention to injustices perpetrated against blacks by law enforcement, then that has clearly been a success.

 

[nakedfrog]

28 years since the LA riots, and the only thing that's changed is the quality of the video?

 

[Aikouka]

Since we started working from home, he's been taking his kids jogging in the morning.
That is until his wife told him how she was out jogging and someone tried running her over.

Now he won't take his kids running anymore, and he's not sure how to explain to them that some people don't like them because of the color of their skin.

Did he provide information as to how they know it was racially motivated? I just feel like I'm getting only part A and part C of a story, and part B is needed to add the actual context.

 

[zinfamous]

I ask for clarification because it's unclear to me what it means. It obviously doesn't mean what it says literally, otherwise its adherents wouldn't bristle at the rejoinder "all lives matter."

Jesus fucking Christ.

seriously: jesus jfcuking christ.

the fact that you refuse to understand and accept the plain fact that the rejoinder "all lives matter" is a direct and intentional assault on the notion of BLM, is why you get little respect here and probably in life. I don't think there is a bus that is short enough for this degree of cognitive failure.

 

[senseamp]

Out of curiosity, which kneeling do resident right wingers think is worse?

 

[snoopy7548]

"All lives matter" is insulting and minimizes the impact of "Black lives matter" in the same way as telling a starving person that they should stop complaining because everyone needs to eat and gets hungry eventually.

The worst is probably those with "Blue Lives Matter" bumper stickers/shirts.

 

[HomerJS]

Black Lives Matter's meaning clearly isn't only that black lives matter. No normal person would deny that black lives matter. No normal person would ever say any life doesn't.

Funny how a lot of those so called normal people would not say overtly black lives don't matter, they treat us like black lives don't matter.

A fact that even now you have failed to acknowledge.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I think that might be a buckeye leaf, it looks quite similar to a pot leaf.

As for what BLM means, it's been explained many times that all it means is they want people to recognize that black people's lives matter as much as everyone elses. Pretending not to know at this point is kind of ridiculous, I have seen it repeatedly explained without even trying to find it, and it's straight forward.

That might actually make less sense in that context (but that's based solely off the fact that Michigan and Buckeye have a strong negative association due to college sports).

What are you talking about? Who's pretending? Did you somehow infer I was playing a fucking moron and didn't know what Black Lives Matter is, despite me going out of my way to explicitly talk about racism? And there absolutely are people who's first association with BLM would be the Bureau of Land Management because radical right wing shitheads have been demonizing them for decades, just like other different right wing shitheads set out to demonize Black Lives Matter.

 

[kage69]

Not a bad idea.

 

[kage69]

nm

 

[blackangst1]

Some people conveniently forget. That blue can be taken off at the end of the day. My black stays on 24/7.

It's not a blue life but a blue uniform, stupid

Well, no. If a cop is a racist IN uniform, he's out out also. Unless I misinterpreted what you mean. My meaning is, there are racists everywhere in almost any profession. No law will change that. But I certainly dont think blue on black violence is the norm. For every white officer who commits a racist attack on a black person, there 100's or thousands who dont.

 

[blackangst1]

Not a bad idea.

I disagrtee wholly. There are approximately 800,000 police officers in the country, and we have a handful who commit these atrocious acts. Punishing the 99% for the actions of the 1% isnt right at all.

 

[hal2kilo]

I disagrtee wholly. There are approximately 800,000 police officers in the country, and we have a handful who commit these atrocious acts. Punishing the 99% for the actions of the 1% isnt right at all.

It just an effort to turn police into those creatures Trump hates. Rats. We'd all be better off.