And they sleep soundly with the money the GOP pays them to spew their "opinions" all over the internet where the ignorant and uneducated will suck them right up as if they were fact.
Never forget some people on these forums sleep with their white hoods on.....
Tell me something Skippy, if I don't have a point why was this guy ever allowed to put on a fucking uniform ever, especially in a minority community? This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. You are an idiot.
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Then perhaps we should do something to stop it from happening to all people. As our Constitution requires. Due process and equal protection of the laws is the law, and extrajudicial executions should be condemned by all who claim to believe in our laws.If their goal is to be treated the same as white people, they would be sorely disappointed. It would have to go further than that. Police brutality doesn't just happen to black people.
Does the smallness of the proportion of abuses matter when nothing is done to stop them?A small ass number plus a small ass number is still a small ass number. The amount of black people killed unarmed and without a mile long rap sheet (and not resisting/fighting/etc) is a small proportion of all police-civilian killings.
So guilty until proven innocent then?Racists say what?
1) Doesn't matter how long someone's criminal history is. Doesn't justify extrajudicial killings by state actors
2) So much malfeasance has occurred that we can no longer give police the benefit of the doubt. The idea that people are "resisting", especially with all the videos that have come to light over the last 20 years suggests that there are many liars on the force
3) Police unions and departments continue to fight real accountability changes and they proven time and time again that they cannot police themselves. The barrel is rotting
4) Police violence disproportionately falls on people of color, on top of all the other systemic issues that fall on their communities
Great question. Although Chris Rock may have thought of it first. I always love getting a laugh from Chris on this subject when things are really bad. However this aired almost 20 years ago and things have not gotten better.
No. We simply can't trust police at their word when they say someone was resisting or whatever they say to justify their violence. They've shot their credibility by covering for the bad apples. They need to earn their public trust.So guilty until proven innocent then?
Great question. Although Chris Rock may have thought of it first
It goes to the heart of relative morality does it not? I mean we all do and on multiple levels, if it isnt affecting me directly I can be sort of less concerned about it, the longer physical distance the more abstract it becomes, besides most people vote with their wallet anyway right, tax break for me plz? Moral relativity. Its a bitch. (pun intended).Great question. Although Chris Rock may have thought of it first. I always love getting a laugh from Chris on this subject when things are really bad. However this aired almost 20 years ago and things have not gotten better.
To demand that the state governments uphold their Constitutional requirement of providing all citizens with equal protection of the laws.
Okay, granted the number of black people that the police murder in cold blood is relatively small compared to all the people the police kill overall. What is your point again? Are you suggesting that because the police kill way more people then they murder we should not be concerned? What percentage of murders to non-murder killings should concern us then?
Racists say what?
Doesn't matter how long someone's criminal history is. Doesn't justify extrajudicial killings by state actors
2) So much malfeasance has occurred that we can no longer give police the benefit of the doubt. The idea that people are "resisting", especially with all the videos that have come to light over the last 20 years suggests that there are many liars on the force
3) Police unions and departments continue to fight real accountability changes and they proven time and time again that they cannot police themselves. The barrel is rotting
Then perhaps we should do something to stop it from happening to all people. As our Constitution requires. Due process and equal protection of the laws is the law, and extrajudicial executions should be condemned by all who claim to believe in our laws.
Okay, granted the number of black people that the police murder in cold blood is relatively small compared to all the people the police kill overall. What is your point again? Are you suggesting that because the police kill way more people then they murder we should not be concerned? What percentage of murders to non-murder killings should concern us then?
Does the smallness of the proportion of abuses matter when nothing is done to stop them?
It doesn't cover all the factors that would close the gap significantly. Black men commit much more violent crimes. Black men are much more likely to be rock bottom SES. And white demographics is older, which we know most trouble with the law revolves around the younger demographic.You don't suppose that could be attributed to there being far fewer black people overall? (derp?)
Obviously there are more white people shot/beaten by cops then black overall in the US because white folks make up nearly 73% of the US population while black make up approx 12%.
I'd think this would be obvious anyway ... perhaps not.
Percentage-wise however its not even close.
You do realize that this small amount you talk about is not small! Police target black people everyday on purpose! To believe otherwise makes you [part of the problem!If their goal is to be treated the same as white people, they would be sorely disappointed. It would have to go further than that. Police brutality doesn't just happen to black people. -- actually it does just happen! You would have to be an idiot to thjink otherwise!
A small ass number plus a small ass number is still a small ass number. The amount of black people killed unarmed and without a mile long rap sheet (and not resisting/fighting/etc) is a small proportion of all police-civilian killings.
Yeah but before he had Chris Rock money he had no money. He had to endure a few decades of poor black man treatment, which probably inspired his sense of humor, led to his success, leading to his wealth, and now he lives alright.I don't know... I think that I could do a pretty good job of isolating myself from corrupt racist cops if I had Chris Rock money. Hell... I could move back to Africa and have my own walled off compound with private guards if I had Chris Rock money.
Do you really expect anybody top care about what you say when you try to politicize the problem or blame on party over the other??Yes, but that’s why I mentioned not fighting/resisting/etc. Usually when someone has a mile long rap sheet, they won’t respect the police. And while it’s not right if they get severely injured or killed unnecessarily, a lot of people act as if they did nothing wrong if the cop did something wrong. They only want to place blame on the cops. Case in point, a recent uproar near where I am is about a black man who got pushed around a little at the trolley station. If he didn’t act the way he did, I can’t see it ending the way it did with the spurious “assaulting an officer” charge, and for anyone that knows anything about the trolley station, it’s dumb to stay around because everyone knows you’ll get checked constantly there, since it’s so common for people to rush the trolley from close by to evade the fare.
I agree. That would be beneficial for everyone. Ironically, liberals have been part of the problem as they’ve been known for decades to empower and glorify public employees for political gain and even rewarding them for killing civilians (Daniel Shaver ring a bell?). Republicans haven’t been the sole actors to put cops on a pedestal. Democrats have perpetuated bullshit about marijuana as well, even up to the Clintons and Obama, yet we’re told constantly it’s all the racism oppressing them.
But a lot of people want to only make it about black people. They revel in the disingenuous rhetoric.
People use the unarmed black deaths by police as proof they’re so oppressed. I don’t understand how just a handful of unarmed black people dying by cops each year (and of which some are clearly incompetence/accidents than true maliciousness) is somehow oppression. There is 330 million people in the US.
It doesn't cover all the factors that would close the gap significantly. Black men commit much more violent crimes. Black men are much more likely to be rock bottom SES. And white demographics is older, which we know most trouble with the law revolves around the younger demographic.
When does the gaps become significant enough anyway? You do know there are big difference between men and women on traffic ticketing and criminal sentencing? Both of which are used to claim major oppression? Yet no one will argue the system is sexist against men or that it matters -- all the woke liberals argue men have it better in everything than women.
Yeah but before he had Chris Rock money he had no money. He had to endure a few decades of poor black man treatment, which probably inspired his sense of humor, led to his success, leading to his wealth, and now he lives alright.
Most blacks are not anywhere near that successful.
Him and Dave Chappelle and Eddie Murphy and that one guy whose name we don't say anymore but you know who I'm talking about.
And despite the existence of those people black lives are still devalued. That gave us George Floyd.Tiger Woods? Oprah? Denzel Washington? Dozens of NFL and NBA professional players?
Black people are not disproportionately killed by police per crime rate.
Racism exists, but it exists on an individual level and is an unfortunate tribalistic tendency from our animal biology - hardly something that can be changed through protest.
What we have seen in the last week is the mainstreaming of Marxist identity politics.
That said, police brutality is a big problem and it's all because of the drug war.
I think most people just pick a side without thinking too deeply about the issue. "Racism is evil, therefore I support BLM."
systemic racism is beyond evil.I think most people just pick a side without thinking too deeply about the issue. "Racism is evil, therefore I support BLM."
That's funny because I NEVER suggested that. However being a racist damn sure does disqualify one from being on a police force in a minority community.I'm an idiot? Who is the one suggesting that just because of your skin color someone shouldn't be qualified to do their job "in a minority community"?
I swear you fucking morons have gone complete 180 - where you actively ADVOCATE FOR racism. How far does one's head have to be up their ass to suggest something so asinine?
If racism is not systemic Amy Cooper would have not had the system in place that allowed her to use the blackness of Christian Cooper against him putting his life in danger from the police.Black people are not disproportionately killed by police per crime rate.
Racism exists, but it exists on an individual level and is an unfortunate tribalistic tendency from our animal biology - hardly something that can be changed through protest.
What we have seen in the last week is the mainstreaming of Marxist identity politics.
That said, police brutality is a big problem and it's all because of the drug war.