BLM Wants to Seize 90,000 Acres of Texas Ranchers’ Land

Abraxas

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phony? the guys land was stolen by the BLM.

No, he lost a court case that determined the land did not belong to him. What's more, he lost the case 30 years ago. That is not theft, nor is it current, not does it show the government is trying to grab 90k acres.
 

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emperus

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It seems like a difficult situation. I would hope there is a fair resolution to the process, but it's not an outrage inducing issue.

If the land really does lie in Texas, what do you think an equitable resolution would be? If the original people who sold them the land got the property line wrong, then what?

What is funny is that he used a federal program to get a loan to buy the land.
 

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Update:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/22/Exclusive-Greg-Abbott-to-BLM-Come-and-Take-It





“If I have to, I will make this our 31st lawsuit against the Obama Administration.”
“I am about ready,” General Abbott told Breitbart Texas, “to go to the Red River and raise a ‘Come and Take It’ flag to tell the feds to stay out of Texas.”


Reassigning Priority: Bundy ranch is patroled by militia on an ongoing basis, they will signal when necessary, we should not wait for them to take an upper leg on another situation, priority on this event to defeat it before it could even start into a land grab attempt.
 
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CanOWorms

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“I am about ready,” General Abbott told Breitbart Texas, “to go to the Red River and raise a ‘Come and Take It’ flag to tell the feds to stay out of Texas.”

I don't think his flag is going to be able to stop a missile launched from a drone.
 

ivwshane

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Is "here we go again", passing as a comment these days for starting a new thread?


OP, how about you adding some info that you have found and your own opinion? Is that too much to ask?
 

Attic

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Everybody should cheer the day they'll get F'd by the feds and watch idle as their neighbors get gangbanged by them. The real winners join in or cheer the act. These days we're all about convenience and ignoring inconvenient truths right?, just watch out for the day the Feds come for you and yours, there will be nobody left to speak for you. Until then, "the government is here to help", or whatever BS helps you sleep at night.
 

werepossum

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The BLM is also studying taking the land on the Oklahoma side. Because, you know, you can never have too much land.

Some of this land is public, some is purely private, and some is privately owned but with the federal government retaining mineral or other rights. This has been going on for while now.
 

emperus

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Why does the BLM need this land?

You should read the article. Part of being a good citizen is being informed. Getting tired of all this trumped out outrage because FOx news tells you to be outraged.
 
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Thebobo

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Bundy is a liar.

Cliven Bundy Lied About His Family’s ‘Ancestral Rights’ – And Fox News Let Him

It turns out that Fox News hero Cliven Bundy is not just a lawbreaking moocher – he’s also a big, fat liar. Those “ancestral rights” he boasts about – you know, the ones he claims go back to the 1800s – and therefore predate the federal government’s claim to the land Bundy refuses to pay to grace on? Turns out 1954 is the date the Bundy family really began grazing.

KLAS-TV in Las Vegas did the kind of investigating that Fox News – despite all its coverage – “objective” and otherwise – either failed to do or refused to do:

“I’ve lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements,” Bundy said.

Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy’s parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.

Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn’t start grazing on that land until 1954.

Meanwhile, over at Fox News, where they seem ready to demand Bundy’s face be carved into Mt. Rushmore, not one of the reporters or hosts seems to have even looked for this easily-verifiable information.

For example:

Last week, Sean Hannity said to Bundy, “How long have your cattle been out there grazing over the years? It goes back to the 1800s right?

“Objective” news host Harris Faulkner announced, “Two bits of fact here: The Bundy family… says they’ve been letting their cattle graze on that land since the 1800s…”

In other words, Fox repeatedly announced that the Bundy family’s grazing history is important but nobody was interested in any facts beyond what the Bundy family claimed. In addition to Hannity’s man crush on Bundy, we’ve also found positive segments or reports about the family on The Kelly File, On The Record, Fox & Friends, by Todd Starnes, supposedly objective reporters Griff Jenkins and William La Jeunesse (each of whom were on-scene at the Bundy ranch) and my personal favorite - Fox Nation likening Bundy to Gandhi and Thoreau.

As Jed Lewison at DailyKos pointed out, it really doesn’t matter that Bundy is a fraud. “Even if his family had lived on his ranch since 1877, it wouldn’t change the fact that his cattle are grazing on Federal, not private, land and that he should play by the same rules as everybody else,” he noted.

But the fact that Bundy lied about the basis for what he claims are his rights – and nobody at Fox did any fact checking – makes both him and the “fair and balanced” network all the more deplorable.


Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/cliven_bun...fox_news_let_him_04222014#B73lP14K5m1yAiuw.99
 
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Everybody should cheer the day they'll get F'd by the feds and watch idle as their neighbors get gangbanged by them. The real winners join in or cheer the act. These days we're all about convenience and ignoring inconvenient truths right?, just watch out for the day the Feds come for you and yours, there will be nobody left to speak for you. Until then, "the government is here to help", or whatever BS helps you sleep at night.

Will this gang bang happen before or after all those Muslim guys groom everyone to be prostitutes?
 

waggy

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I don't trust anything the bundy's have to say.

Something along the lines of a public backlash has been brewing for a long time when it comes to seizing land.

it being Texas and ranchers along with a the heavy handed tactics the BLM has used just lit a powder keg.
 
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