bloomberg+wccftechNvidia Demands Qualcomm Pay Up..

Det0x

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..After Demise of $352 Million Unit

When it comes to mobile hardware and processors, US manufacturer Qualcomm has been comfortably dominating the industry for quite a while. Not only does the company manufacture the Snapdragon lineup of chipsets, that are present in almost every mainstream Android smartphone, flagship or other, out there, but its other offerings, including wireless modules, patents and more make sure that it maintains a strong market position.

GPU manufacturer Nvidia on the other hand has been making its presence known PC hardware sphere, particularly after yesterday’s GTC 2016. We saw the company showcase its Pascal architecture on board the P-100, alongside a couple of other launches that should keep things nice and interesting for some time. Nvidia’s also been at odds with Qualcomm for quite a while, claiming that the latter uses its market position unfairly and today we’ve got some more news for you on this front.

Nvidia Accuses Qualcomm Of Mobile Chip Monopoly; Demands Compensation For Unfair Practices

When it comes to allegations of unfair practices with respect to its market share, Qualcomm’s been in the news for quite a while now. The US chip giant has seen accusations from a variety of quarters claiming that due to its aggressive industry strategies, competition and smaller manufacturers have been suffering. Nvidia’s made similar claims as well and today we get to learn some more details on the matter.

As the GTC was underway yesterday, details about Nvidia’s court hearings against Qualcomm in London were also starting to make rounds. The chip maker claims that Qualcomm’s abuse of its dominant position in the mobile processor market has forced it to quit its own plans for similar technology, making it incur substantial losses in the process.

To recap, in 2011 Nvidia spent $352 million to acquire soft modem tech firm Icera. It was however forced to terminate things just four years after in 2015, alleging that Qualcomm’s aggressive pricing strategies forced it out of competition and made it incur significant losses.

According to Nvidia, Qualcomm’s aggressive and unfair market tactics led to “unexplained delays in customer orders, reductions in demand volumes and contracts never being entered into, even after a customer or mobile network cooperating with a prospective customer has agreed or expressed a strong intention to purchase”.

The US chipmaking giant has already faced similar accusations of selling its modem chips below their costs of development and production in order to drive out smaller competitors from the market. While Qualcomm is able to absorb losses which it incurs from such moves owing to the massive revenues it earns from patents and other products, the resulting impact from such decision leaves other, smaller companies in more difficult situations.

Whether Nvidia will prevail over Qualcomm in this alleged ”unlawful abuse of dominance”, we’ll find out soon enough. Things aren’t looking that well for the US chipmaker however as the amount of similar allegations piles up. Thoughts? Let us know what you think in the comments section below and stay tuned for the latest.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...lcomm-pay-up-after-demise-of-352-million-unit

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-accuses-qualcomm-mobile-chip-monopoly/

For a moment I thought it was a late April fool.. "unfair market tactics" :thumbsup:
 
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ThatBuzzkiller

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If Nvidia can't handle the heat (from mobile graphics chip vendors), then maybe they should leave the market ...
 

monstercameron

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Right, because Nvidia is a saint in the gpu sector and haven't pulled similar stunts?

doesn't matter what is happening in the gpu market, stopping the hemorrhaging in the mobile market might be valuable to end users.

How many players are left? remember TI?
 
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and by everybody else, you mean qc? or mediatek in china...

QC, ARM (MALI), Samsung, MediaTek.

MediaTek signed a deal with AMD for GPU IP for SoCs, +1B value starting in 2016, so they are looking at growth opportunities! In fact the status quo has only changed with the rise of MediaTek to push out TI.

It's NV that is trying to get into the market and they have failed. Now they blame their failures on QC but QC doesn't dominate the marketshare the way NV does, 80:20 on PC.
 
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This will set a dangerous precedent if this goes anywhere.

NV tried to sue the mobile GPU makers for IP infringement last time, it failed. Now they are trying to sue QC for unfair market practices. lol

Come on. Just give it up, Tegra failed. Even Intel struggles to push into that market and they have much more financial and engineering muscle.
 

Maverick177

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Nvidia has become a full-scale patent troll in the recent years, so this news doesn't surprise me at all.
 

ThatBuzzkiller

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Nvidia has become a full-scale patent troll in the recent years, so this news doesn't surprise me at all.

Not even close ...

A "full-scale" patent troll is some corporation like older Rambus, Nvidia actually sells products with tons of volume to boot ...

Nvidia is somewhat sleazy when it comes to litigation/business strategy practices but a patent troll it is not ...
 

96Firebird

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I'm surprised it took a whole 13 posts before the catchphrase "patent troll" popped up!
 

thesmokingman

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It's ironic right? The big bad tough guy Nvidia whose always playing every trick in the book to keep the lil guy down, is whining about QC. They don't seem to like it much when roles are reversed?
 

airfathaaaaa

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doesn't matter what is happening in the gpu market, stopping the hemorrhaging in the mobile market might be valuable to end users.

How many players are left? remember TI?

who on their right mind will choose an nvidia soc that eats batteries for breakfast instead of a massivelly better choice?
they tried 4 times so far 3 of them was a failure because they couldnt handle the power draw
 

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Right, because Nvidia is a saint in the gpu sector and haven't pulled similar stunts?

To recap, in 2011 Nvidia spent $352 million to acquire soft modem tech firm Icera. It was however forced to terminate things just four years after in 2015, alleging that Qualcomm’s aggressive pricing strategies forced it out of competition and made it incur significant losses.

Every ADF member claiming that Nvidia GPU are overpriced. So how overpriced products can hurt AMD sales?

The US chip giant has seen accusations from a variety of quarters claiming that due to its aggressive industry strategies, competition and smaller manufacturers have been suffering. Nvidia’s made similar claims

Others sued Qualcomm nobody cares. When Nvidia sues Qualcomm it's unfair tactic.

It'll be hilarious if AMD uses that precedent to sue Nvidia.

To recap, in 2011 Nvidia spent $352 million to acquire soft modem tech firm Icera. It was however forced to terminate things just four years after in 2015, alleging that Qualcomm’s aggressive pricing strategies forced it out of competition and made it incur significant losses.

What precedent?

QC, ARM (MALI), Samsung, MediaTek.

MediaTek signed a deal with AMD for GPU IP for SoCs, +1B value starting in 2016, so they are looking at growth opportunities! In fact the status quo has only changed with the rise of MediaTek to push out TI.

It's NV that is trying to get into the market and they have failed. Now they blame their failures on QC but QC doesn't dominate the marketshare the way NV does, 80:20 on PC.

Source? Helio X30 is ARM Cortex-A72, 53, ARM Mali.



Lol, I'm sure some execs over at Mediatek are calling NV a bunch of whiners.

https://www.google.lt/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Mediatek+sued
 

R0H1T

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and by everybody else, you mean qc? or mediatek in china...
MTK is everywhere, not just in China, in fact they're the biggest player in low/mid tier phones & probably second only to QC in terms of overall shipments. There are other players as well, though only at the low(er) end, like Broadcom/Allwinner/Rockchip et al to name a few.
 

positivedoppler

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I don't get it. Tegra used to be in every tablet out there until Intel started gift wrapping each Atom with a $20.
 

airfathaaaaa

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I don't get it. Tegra used to be in every tablet out there until Intel started gift wrapping each Atom with a $20.

whatever had tegra 2 and 3 had a very poor sale record because it was power hungry
and when tegra 4 came and microsoft along with google before them essentially blamed nvidia for their poor sales tegra chips became obsolete
 
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