With enough money, anything is possible in our system.... If you didn't get what you want, you didn't lobby hard enough.
I can rant for awhile, but really, that also explains this scenario.
If it violated any laws what so ever, as long as you shake the right hands, it will happen.
Just pretty much have to wait and see if it happens or not.
Great point I however don't think Sony or MS would have ever allowed that.
If there is gonna be a big shiny logo on the consoles it will be there own.
Having a non competitive AMD around though can be convenient for Intel. Especially since they seem to be able to do amazing R&D for peanuts. We'll see what happens if AMD actually gets after Intel. Although I's be willing to wager a small some of money that Intel has the ability to increase performance that they haven't tapped.
I'd agree to a certain extent but back when Core came out and changed the picture Intel were running two separate developments, Netburst and Nehalem (?, my memory fails me). That was a game changer simply because they sent their IPC through the roof. I'm not sure they have that ace in their back pocket this time around, although i'm sure they can either get more from what they have and have newer tech in the pipeline.
But of course AMD rather axe the reputable ATI name and slap their failing name on their GPUs.
It took me like three years to stop calling their GPUs "ATI."
They are talking "IP" in the same sense that the NVidia deal covered; patent cover to stop your ass getting sued. They didn't just shove NVidia GPUs into their chips, and they're not going to shove AMD GPUs into their chips. This is about patents, not specific designs.
Seems like a sensible move for Intel; throw AMD a lifeline to keep anti-trust off your back, stop feeding money to NVidia (who seem like the more credible rival right now), and if AMD goes belly up you can just acquire the portfolio at a knock down price.
Long live ATI!
I still refer to them as ATI, at least in personal discussions haha.
Long live ATI!
They are talking "IP" in the same sense that the NVidia deal covered; patent cover to stop your ass getting sued. They didn't just shove NVidia GPUs into their chips, and they're not going to shove AMD GPUs into their chips. This is about patents, not specific designs.
Seems like a sensible move for Intel; throw AMD a lifeline to keep anti-trust off your back, stop feeding money to NVidia (who seem like the more credible rival right now), and if AMD goes belly up you can just acquire the portfolio at a knock down price.
Intel are moving towards HSA and AMD hold those patents. It makes sense for Intel to cease licensing from NVIDIA as NVIDIA possesses old technology going forward. Intel are looking at leveraging their APUs and being able to share CPU and GPU resources is key here.
NVIDIA have access to these technologies through a cross licensing deal with AMD but aren't the ones holding the patents.
Seems Intel have realized that AMD is where it's at going forward.
PR BS :thumbsdown:
A pseudorandom binary sequence (PRBS) is a binary sequence that, while generated with a deterministic algorithm, is difficult to predict[1] and exhibits statistical behavior similar to a truly-random sequence. PRBS are used in telecommunication, encryption, simulation, correlation technique and time-of-flight spectroscopy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_binary_sequence
A pseudorandom binary sequence (PRBS) is a binary sequence that, while generated with a deterministic algorithm, is difficult to predict[1] and exhibits statistical behavior similar to a truly-random sequence. PRBS are used in telecommunication, encryption, simulation, correlation technique and time-of-flight spectroscopy.
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I think that Intel figured that the future of their IGP hinged on an evolution of their design towards a heterogeneous system architecture with their CPU design. The company which holds most of these patents is AMD. Thus by licensing from AMD, Intel can both protect themselves from litigations which could be brought upon them by NVIDIA as well as leverage this new licensing deal in order to move forward into the future by adopting a more APU-like design. I think that NVIDIA will find it increasingly harder to compete in the mobile space as Intel will likely use this license to grow their mobile market share. AMD will likely begin to erode desktop market share from NVIDIA going forward as well. This leaves the higher end super computer market where AMD will be making a large entrance with their CUDA conversion strategy mixed with their new Zen, Vega and high bandwidth point to point interconnect offerings. Intel will hit from the other side with Knights landing and further improvements. The VR market will have AMD starting with a 70-90% lead.
Honestly... We may not recognize these 3 companies by 2020.
I think that Intel figured that the future of their IGP hinged on an evolution of their design towards a heterogeneous system architecture with their CPU design. The company which holds most of these patents is AMD. Thus by licensing from AMD, Intel can both protect themselves from litigations which could be brought upon them by NVIDIA as well as leverage this new licensing deal in order to move forward into the future by adopting a more APU-like design. I think that NVIDIA will find it increasingly harder to compete in the mobile space as Intel will likely use this license to grow their mobile market share. AMD will likely begin to erode desktop market share from NVIDIA going forward as well. This leaves the higher end super computer market where AMD will be making a large entrance with their CUDA conversion strategy mixed with their new Zen, Vega and high bandwidth point to point interconnect offerings. Intel will hit from the other side with Knights landing and further improvements. The VR market will have AMD starting with a 70-90% lead.
Honestly... We may not recognize these 3 companies by 2020.
It'll be very interesting if Zen can live up the hype.HSA is what makes the Sulon VR/AR headset possible. It's what makes the Consoles possible. HSA makes LiquidVR possible and Asynchronous Compute + Finer grained preemption possible. Many folks laughed at HSA and thought AMD were wasting resources and then VR hit...a market that needs this tech.
What is happening, goes far beyond Asynchronous Compute (the feature that grabbed my interest personally). The next few years should prove to be VERY interesting.
HSA is what makes the Sulon VR/AR headset possible. It's what makes the Consoles possible. HSA makes LiquidVR possible and Asynchronous Compute + Finer grained preemption possible. Many folks laughed at HSA and thought AMD were wasting resources and then VR hit...a market that needs this tech.
What is happening, goes far beyond Asynchronous Compute (the feature that grabbed my interest personally). The next few years should prove to be VERY interesting.
Just look at how different PS4/Xbone vs PS3/X360. PS3 and X360 have so much hardware problems and high power consumption. PS4/Xbone had single chip APU package, so much easier to cool and lower power consumptions.
Look at launch models. Later models can be done with node shrink, which can be done with current gen consoles tooSo how Oculus and HTC made VR without HSA, or previous consoles without HSA was possible?
You can't ignore slim models.
^ Nice FUD.
Not only it comes straight from serial liar Jen-Hsun Huang, the numbers show "Fundamental graphics patents". Not all, not recent, FUNDAMENTAL. Fundamental for nvidia that is.
What is surprising is they didn't put amd on the last spot.