BLOPS2: This game is stupid

[dpodblood]

A while ago I posted a thread about how people get any good at the call of duty games without becoming frustrated. I've come to the conclusion that it's impossible. Yeah... I know what you're all going to say. "You suck." "You have no skills." "You need more practice." Whatever...

The fact is that no matter how skilled a player, there is still just a ton of uncontrollable randomness that happens in this game that will get you slaughtered. Even though I think this is the most balanced, and most polished COD in ages it can still feel like a completely randomized mess.

It's hard to figure out exactly what it is with this game, but I think there are a number of factors.

1) Bad spawns - There are times when I spawn and an enemy is right behind me or right in front of me. They kill me before I even have a chance to get my bearings.

2) Shotguns and Bouncing Betties - Shotguns in this game are just obnoxious. They are basically one hit kill in every situation. It's not like players with shotguns are always at the top of the leaderboard, but it's just a matter of fact. They are a one hit kill 90% of the time. If an enemy gets the drop on you no matter how good a twitch killer you are you're dead; you have no chance to respond. Same goes for bouncing betties - people throw these things all over the place, and unless you have engineer or flack jacked equipped they will kill you in one hit.

3) Lag - This game is twitchy as hell, and so it's important that the netcode is up to par. Too bad this doesn't seem to be the case. Even though there are dedicated servers it doesn't seem to help. So many times I have watched a killcam where an enemy killed me when I was far around the corner out of their reach.

4) Killstreaks - The killstreaks in this game are harder to get than in previous COD games (thank god), but it still doesn't stop a good old down home raping every once and a while. One good player on the opposing team and you will have choppers, bombers, sentry guns, and dogs destroying the crap out of you repeatedly. Spawn, die, spawn, die. The endless cycle of frustration.

5) Just random crap that happens - I walk around a corner and there are 5 enemies waiting to mow me down. An enemy spawns behind me for no reason. I kill a dude and another dude kills me. I walk into a bettie or a claymore. A grenade happens to land on me. A camper kills me as I walk by their bush. Some dude with a target spotter is camping the objective. Some sniper hits me from a location so far away I can't even see it on my 27" monitor.

6) Lack of team play and communication - For the most part it seems everyone who plays this game thinks every game mode is TDM. Oh look I've captured 90% of the objective, then suddenly I'm killed. Where are my team mates?? Who the hell knows!!

I think a lot of the issues come from the fact that the maps are way too small, and the fact that the game play focuses way more on twitch shooting and pure chaos than it does tactics and objective play.

Now obviously there are some skilled players out there. I have the feeling though that there are 2 things happening that make these guys so good.

#1 - They play nothing but COD, and they play it a lot. I'm talking at least a few hours a day.

#2 - They are part of groups that play together. As a lone wolf without a guild it's impossible to coordinate in objective based game modes.

Don't get me wrong. I still think it's an OK game, and I've had quite a bit of fun with it. In fact sometimes I've really destroyed the competition and it's really gotten my adrenaline pumping. But in the long run I don't think this game has lasting appeal. There is just too much chaos and frustration for this to be a regular gaming staple for me.

 

[dmoney1980]

2) Shotguns and Bouncing Betties - Shotguns in this game are just obnoxious. They are basically one hit kill in every situation. It's not like players with shotguns are always at the top of the leaderboard, but it's just a matter of fact. They are a one hit kill 90% of the time. If an enemy gets the drop on you no matter how good a twitch killer you are you're dead; you have no chance to respond. Same goes for bouncing betties - people throw these things all over the place, and unless you have engineer or flack jacked equipped they will kill you in one hit.

BF3 has a similar issue with shotguns and the slug round. I'm getting sniped from 50 ft away by a slug round - one shot kill, it's ridiculous.

 

[dpodblood]

BF3 has a similar issue with shotguns and the slug round. I'm getting sniped from 50 ft away by a slug round - one shot kill, it's ridiculous.

I've played BF3 quite a bit. They are quite different games, but while there are some cheap deaths in BF I don't feel it happens as often as it does in COD. Also in BF at least when you are being destroyed by a vehicle you know that thing is being piloted by a human being.

 

[pontifex]

sounds like pretty much every single FPS i have ever played (minus the killstreaks and bad spawns)

 

[DeadFred]

I hate the same things as the OP, the crazy spawns, killstreaks, and most of all the stupid bouncing bettys. Forget playing without flak jacket, I made it my perm unlock on my first prestige.

The campaign had a few high spots but overall was the dullest cod single player Ive played and Ive played them all except MW3. And for me the zombie mode is just too repetitive to be any fun.

The fun I had in BO2's multi player wore off very quickly and I returned to BF3 after the Aftermath DLC released and couldnt be happier.

 

[dpodblood]

I hate the same things as the OP, the crazy spawns, killstreaks, and most of all the stupid bouncing bettys. Forget playing without flak jacket, I made it my perm unlock on my first prestige.

The campaign had a few high spots but overall was the dullest cod single player Ive played and Ive played them all except MW3. And for me the zombie mode is just too repetitive to be any fun.

The fun I had in BO2's multi player wore off very quickly and I returned to BF3 after the Aftermath DLC released and couldnt be happier.

I am hoping to get a good deal on the BF3 premium package, then I will really get back into that game.

 

[gladiatorua]

BLOPS2: This game is stupid

Well, duh...
CoD is dumb MMS. What else can you expect?
There is enough FPS on PC not to play CoD if you are frustrated by it. There is BF3 which is less dumb MMS. There is simple but fair CS. There is Natural Selection 2. There is whole bunch of F2P FPS of decent quality. TF2, Planetside2, Tribes, Blacklight...

 

[Broheim]

I got tired of it rather quickly as well and dedicated myself fully to PS2 instead.

 

[Kroze]

I hate the same things as the OP, the crazy spawns, killstreaks, and most of all the stupid bouncing bettys. Forget playing without flak jacket, I made it my perm unlock on my first prestige.

The campaign had a few high spots but overall was the dullest cod single player Ive played and Ive played them all except MW3. And for me the zombie mode is just too repetitive to be any fun.

The fun I had in BO2's multi player wore off very quickly and I returned to BF3 after the Aftermath DLC released and couldnt be happier.

They fixed the bouncing betties by giving you more time to go crouch or prone once you hear them. NO flak jacket required.

 

[gorcorps]

2.) No. Maybe the slug gun, but then you need to specify that it's the slug gun you have problems with... not all shotguns. All the other shotguns (even with long barrel) still need to be a decent amount closer than other weapons for a 1 shot kill. If you're getting 1 shotted by the other shotguns then you're terrible, as they shouldn't be able to get that close to you.

Also, the bouncing betties are easy to dodge. If you're in a dead sprint you can outrun them, or you can always crouch. Plus I always have engineer on because I like the points associated with destroying them.

Anyway, it's not that you're wrong, it's just some of the things you're whining about seem like you just don't know how to handle certain situations. At the end of the day though it's still a CoD game so it's hardly going to be long lasting and truly memorable. As once-a-year games go it's a decent one. Some people like the small maps and faster action (like me) compared to the slow camp fests that the wide open maps have.

 

[smackababy]

2.) No. Maybe the slug gun, but then you need to specify that it's the slug gun you have problems with... not all shotguns. All the other shotguns (even with long barrel) still need to be a decent amount closer than other weapons for a 1 shot kill. If you're getting 1 shotted by the other shotguns then you're terrible, as they shouldn't be able to get that close to you.

Also, the bouncing betties are easy to dodge. If you're in a dead sprint you can outrun them, or you can always crouch. Plus I always have engineer on because I like the points associated with destroying them.

Anyway, it's not that you're wrong, it's just some of the things you're whining about seem like you just don't know how to handle certain situations. At the end of the day though it's still a CoD game so it's hardly going to be long lasting and truly memorable. As once-a-year games go it's a decent one. Some people like the small maps and faster action (like me) compared to the slow camp fests that the wide open maps have.

Most of his arguments are flawed. He says when someone with a shotgun gets the drop on him, and in this case I assume he means sees him before he sees them, they kill him. In ANY fps if this occurs and the players are of similar skill, the the OP would should die. 100% of the time. The guns shouldn't even matter.

His "oh I run around a corner and their are 5 enemies, this game sucks" argument is terrible. You are playing badly. Regardless of how much you think CoD is a run and gun game, you can't do it well without map awareness and knowledge of where spawns and hiding spots are. This playstyle requires a lot more than skill than people think to be good at it. This is all I did in the first BlackOps and I did exceptionally well.

His "everyone plays like its TDM" argument holds a little more merit, however it also has some holes in it. In competitive shooters, and a lot of other team games for that matter, players have different roles. Not everyone can have the role of slayer (just concerned with killing people) and not everyone can have the role of flag bitch. Yes, team work is hard to come by in matchmaking, but that is why YOU adapt to what your team needs to win. In BLOPS, I did nothing but run and gun to the objective. I did happen to be good enough I killed most of the other team doing it, so I won a lot of games.

The killstreaks are easily counterable. Don't rely on your team to shoot down helicopters and UAVs. Do it yourself. Dogs aren't that hard either.

Again, you need to change how you play before you expect to "be good" at any time of game. Same goes with all Call of Duty games.