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GRIFFIN1

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Some tips to unlocking.

You don't need that much super glue. If you have to srape of the dried on superglue with an exacto knife, then you used too much. Use only as much glue as you need to fill in the gaps, then remove the tape as soon as you are finished putting the glue down. Put some fingernail polish remover on a cotton ball and start rubbing it down. I've personally never been able to rub out all the glue from the cut out areas even after a 4th or 5th attempt at trying to get the rear window defogger kit right.

You might want to use an exacto knife to remove the foam pad next to the L1 bridges. This makes using the tape much easier. If you are carefull not to cut the pad, then it will stick back in the same spot when you are done.

Use the exacto knife to scrape the L1 bridge contact areas. I'm not 100% sure that this does anything, but it will remove any coatings that might be there.

Use very thin tape.

When positioning the tape for the individual L1 bridges, try to expose the smallest area possible. This means that the gap between your first two strips of tape should be the same witch as the L1 contacts. There is no reason to leave any extra room. When you apply the next two strips over the first two strips of tape, use your fingernail to push the tape down in the gap left from the first two strips.

I used a safety pin to apply the rear window defogger. Try to get a really thin layer. Use the safety pin to get as much of the stuff out of the tape groove as you can. On that ClubOC web page, it looks like they used too much. As soon as you have it smoothed out, remove the tape. If the stuff is still a little wet, then you should have smooth edges. If you let it dry completely, then you might pull of chucks when you remove the tape. Wait a couple of minutes so the first contact can dry before you start on the next contact.

If you mess up, pull out the cotton ball and fingernail poish remover and start over.
 

BBigJ

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Originally posted by: FPSguy
Can anyone recommend some cheap, easily removable, gap filler and electrically conductive grease? I don't want to buy a kit and I also don't want to do anything permanent to the chip.

Go over the pits with a crayon or a candle. The wax will fill the pits and you can use conductive ink to make the connections.
 

Elixer

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I am curious, some people are just swapping out old Tbird, and plopping in new XP chip, without reinstalling OS.

I could of swore I read that you are supposed to reinstall OS, so that it can detect you have SSE instructions now... Is that correct?


 

slayer1001

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i fried my core : ( in an ecs k7s5a
i can smell it, i just set everything up today, and tried to turn on to get a lot of blinking lights and an unpleasant odor. i took off the heatsink (thermal take orb, its chrome, and it worked fine on a tbird1400) and noticed the AS2 i had on there was only a little bit onto the chip, and slightly black, so i figured the heatsink wasnt on right.

is there anything i can do about this? would RMAing it to newegg or AMD or something work? its only been 4 days or so since i got it, and having to buy another one is probably a bit beyond my budget.

kicking myself
-sukhyung
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: slayer1001
i fried my core : ( in an ecs k7s5a
i can smell it, i just set everything up today, and tried to turn on to get a lot of blinking lights and an unpleasant odor. i took off the heatsink (thermal take orb, its chrome, and it worked fine on a tbird1400) and noticed the AS2 i had on there was only a little bit onto the chip, and slightly black, so i figured the heatsink wasnt on right.

is there anything i can do about this? would RMAing it to newegg or AMD or something work? its only been 4 days or so since i got it, and having to buy another one is probably a bit beyond my budget.

kicking myself
-sukhyung

If you think the heatsink wasn't on right, then you are out of luck. BTW, is the chrome orb rated for a tbird 1.4GHz? I thought that it topped out at 1GHz? Hmm

You could send it to newegg, but they (& AMD for that matter) won't do anything, since it seems it is user error, so it is not their fault that you screwed up. Time to mow 10 more lots


 

Trike

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i just got my ecs board,xp1600, and coolermaster 8 dollar fan, OD $15, 256mb 2100 ram. i just unlocked it and booting up at 12x150, i can't get any higher.. not sure if it's my ram or not, and not sure how good my heatsink can handle. it just crashes at 12x160. i was aiming for 1.9ghz and i'll be happy. but overall a 1.8ghz setup for less than 150 bucks is good. just wondering what i can do to get 1.9ghz. any suggestions?

its running at 1.74v

maybe i should just shut up and be happy, should still kick my dual p3 550's butt. but i need more ram... not sure if the extra cost for a heatsink and high quality ram is worth it or not..

 

kimber

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is see you said you tried upping your buss to 160 but have you tried leaving your buss at 150 and jumping your multi higher?
 

PG

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i just got my ecs board,xp1600, and coolermaster 8 dollar fan, OD $15, 256mb 2100 ram. i just unlocked it and booting up at 12x150, i can't get any higher.. not sure if it's my ram or not, and not sure how good my heatsink can handle. it just crashes at 12x160. i was aiming for 1.9ghz and i'll be happy. but overall a 1.8ghz setup for less than 150 bucks is good. just wondering what i can do to get 1.9ghz. any suggestions?

Which ECS board is that?
I heard that the K7S5A will have 160 and 166 as choices in the special overclocking BIOS'es that are floating around, but yet it won't boot with those bus speeds.

 

FPSguy

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i just got my ecs board,xp1600, and coolermaster 8 dollar fan, OD $15, 256mb 2100 ram. i just unlocked it and booting up at 12x150, i can't get any higher.. not sure if it's my ram or not, and not sure how good my heatsink can handle. it just crashes at 12x160. i was aiming for 1.9ghz and i'll be happy. but overall a 1.8ghz setup for less than 150 bucks is good. just wondering what i can do to get 1.9ghz. any suggestions?

its running at 1.74v

maybe i should just shut up and be happy, should still kick my dual p3 550's butt. but i need more ram... not sure if the extra cost for a heatsink and high quality ram is worth it or not..


1.9GHz is a lofty goal. I don't think it's possible with 1.74V and an $8 Coolermaster fan. I would look at the CPU database on Overclockers.com for ideas about what to do. The highest overclock with an ECS MB is 1875 (so a new motherboard might help). No one hit 1900 without upping the voltage to at least 1.85 (so higher voltage might help, but I'm not sure that HS/F will keep your processor cool under those conditions). Most entries at 1900 or above use water cooling or even dry ice. Maybe you could get higher with faster RAM, if the rest of your computer can handle it. Are you using AS3? That might help with temps. Just some thoughts.
 

MrCoyote

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FYI, coolermaster fans/heatsinks are pretty weak. They are worse then the original heatsink you get with a retail cpu. We sold them at the store I used to work at, and people always had problems with cpu overheating or the fan going out on them. Might I suggest you buy a GOOD heatsink like TaiSol.
 

ElectricLegs

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An easy way to fill the multiplier holes is with white-out. It'll take 2 applications and you can wipe over it with alcohol to buff it down flush then let it dry far about 5 minutes and put the rear view defogger right over it. Took me about 10 minutes and can be cleaned out with just about any solvent if you mess up.
 

RadioactiveMagpies

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has an antec 250w ps... it has minimal space, not much cooling. it does have a prebuild rack for a front fan, but looking at the slots built-in, it may not do much to cool. i want to OC this 1600 up to 1.7-1.8Ghz eventually, but at least run the 1600+ at regular speed and locked, stable. will this case/ps handle it? or will i have to wait for my new case? thanks.


I tried an xp1600 with an abit KG7 on a antec 250 watt psu(1 hd, 1 cdrom only,256 megs ram). There were random reboots. I underclocked it to 1200 mhz form 1400mhz and it ran rock solidfor days. So it was a power issue. I would recommend against reusing your antec 250 watt psu I am currently running it with a 300 watt antec psu and it works, but overclocked to 1650 mhz has random reboots. I would suggest 350+ watts psu if you want to stick with antec.
 

Trike

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correct.. i have never gotten my k7s5a to boot at 160mhz yet. even with the new BB crucial ram, i can get it to post at 12.5@150mhz=1.9ghz, but just crashes promptly.

BUT.... it's running pretty damn stable at 12.5@147mhz, my ram timing is at 2.5-6-4. 1.83Ghz is pretty damn good imo, although i am worried about the heat sink not being able to keep it cool. not sure what kind of hs/fan i can fit in my inwin case, stupid power supply is in the way.

i seen this nice heavy cooper heatsink with fan by thermaltake i believe, but it was like 40 bucks or something....

on newegg's description, it said the heat sink was good upto a xp2000, not sure how reliable that is, cause when i touch the heatsink it's pretty warm.

you guys think i should get a new heatsink? what kind?
 

garyboz

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Trike, set your RAS Active to 7 if you're running over 133FSB on the K7S5A. Lower settings can cause data coruption. Search the forums at OCWorkbench for details.
 

dew042

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Originally posted by: stevejst
RUN!!!!!
Run, they will never be back again so low. Buy two, three ...

$64.99 ---> $51.99


i guess they got lower huh?



dew.

 

drti

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i can't resist this anymore, decided to buy the cpu but i couldn't find the refurbished ecs K7S5A. well, back to waiting for the refurbish board.

any recommendation for an alternative refurbished board at newegg?
 

SpideyCU

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I am curious, some people are just swapping out old Tbird, and plopping in new XP chip, without reinstalling OS.
Yes, I did, it was just fine. This was under WinXP, but I don't imagine many other OS's to present any problems. I'm not sure where you read about that SSE bit, honestly this is the first I've heard of it, but various programs have told me that SSE is running just fine. Should be able to just plop the new XP chip in and be on your way (as long as the mobo can handle it - only thing I had to do was flash my BIOS).
 

gwlam12

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
the price just keeps dropping! iis it time for me to buy yet??

what heatsink should i get with it? im assuming the coolermaster i have with my 1.4ghz tbird just wont do if i plan to overclock.
 

zettler

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First, thanks to all those who has offered assistance and to those who responded to my questions over the last month. We do appreciate everyone!

I made the plunge earlier this month to build my first PC from scratch. Bought the 1600+ at $66, with $5 more for a one year warranty.

Bought the ABIT KR7A-Raid board for cheap and LOVE it.

Bought the PNY DDR2100 memory for cheap and rebates are coming.

Got the GeF3 500Ti for cheap and it kicks.

Got the case with 350W PS and its okay - you get what you pay for sometimes - but at least it was cheap.

Bought all the CD, DVD, CDRW, HD's at Staples for VERY cheap.

Bought modem and NIC cards that will end up costing me $5 after rebates.

And then my son (13) worked together and built it one night and it started up right away under the Windows XP deal this forum provided. No, we haven't OCed it yet but will take that plunge soon. What we are amazed at is how good it runs, it looks, and plays his games on (we already had the Viewsonic 19" flatscreen monitor from that deal with E-Trade and that $400 coupon to a store in Ohio from a couple of years ago, and its still great). And all of this was made possible from deals found here, at Big$allet, and elsewhere. And our ability to build it was greatly assisted by all the forums and the like all over the world that you can find on the Net.

So, now we have a kick@$$ PC and I am ready to do it again!

I love the ABIT board and the GREAT info you can find at Pauls Unofficial site (http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kg7kr7) and will probably pick up another one from CompGeeks and this AMD from Newegg. This all started out when my daughter's PC broke in July and we weren't sure what it was - PS, MB, or the like. Now, we think its the MB and this PC was the $299 one a lot of us got when we joined that bogus "buying club" a few years back (the P3 500mhz).

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for getting me/us hooked on building PC's and all the deals from the past several years (been here at AT since 1999). And, I wanted to see what people thought of the ABIT board because from all that I have read, its one Heck of a MB for AMD's and for OCing. Stable, relaible, easy to put together, and cheap right now for less than $55 delivered. And from what I read, MB's at 266 are fine for now, and the foreseeable near future, with regards to speed and the like.

So what do you guru's say - is the ABIT a good choice,? And with the price of an AMD 1600+ so low that its difficult to justify spending a $100 more for a 2200+, can someone use these two to build on and count on for the next 18 months or so?

What say you all? Sorry if it seems like a forum FAQ type but I wanted to make sure people know the positive impact even the Hot Deals Forums have on people other than just saving money. Thanks.
 

garyboz

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Spidey I could be making this up but I think that XP is capable of being accellerated by SSE but the accelleration will only be enabled if XP detects SSE upon install. If you want XP to be accellerated then you need to reinstall XP. Otherwise SSE will only accellerate applications running in XP and not XP itself.
 

Averyel

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Hey guys. I'm interested in getting a chip, but I can't unlock them at all because I had an acident earlier and my hands aren't up to par. So how much would I donate to someone for him or her to unlock one for me. Just let me know. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
 

drewdogg808

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(we already had the Viewsonic 19" flatscreen monitor from that deal with E-Trade and that $400 coupon to a store in Ohio from a couple of years ago, and its still great).
man...that was an awesome deal...i loved my viewsonic and just recently sold it earlier this year.
 
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