Originally posted by: stevejst
I also noticed the lack in price lowering on the Tbirds, such as the 1.4 ghz Athlon thunderbird, currently, Price:$103. I bought mine last october for 110 dollars shipped, probably the first time I've ever bought a computer component and it hasn't jumped at least 20 dollars down in price a month after I bought it lol
That is because they don't make them any more. The price will go down once people get rid of outdated motherboards. So then and now you can get pulls for new and *refurbished*. They come mostly from overclockers because ordinary users will use them longer happily. So what you get is a CPU that has been near thermal breakdown many times.
Think how desirable that is when you are buying a pull CPU.
Just look at the insanity going on with this XP 1600 Agoia. In two months from now these people will be selling the surplus they bought after they were rocking them as much as they could. Then here you'll have some different $60 XP 2100 core stepping stampede again.
Really makes you want to join in the crowd.
Why do you always knock the XP 1600 every chance you get? You still do not realize why it is a hot deal. You are not an overclocker, so you could not understand why it is hot. When a chip has the potential to overclock 300mhz with minimal cooling (dont get started on the whole SVC heatsink thing, I'm talking minimal cooling in general, as in a 20$ heatsink+fan), and people don't have the 100$ to shell out on the equivalent speed non-overclocked processor, it is a hot deal. And in turn, you are getting a faster performing system clock for clock with the non-overclocked system due to the increased FSB. If you are not an overclocker, and this deal does not apply to you, you have no right to knock it. That would be called thread crapping. Try reading the forum rules again Steve, or better yet, I'll post them:
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What about COURTESY?
No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread.
Possibly the worst examples we have had of this have been in posts for free religious items, such as bibles, etc. If you want to discuss religion, or any other such non-computer topic, do it in our Off Topic forum. The discussions in that forum cover a wide range of topics, but needless flaming and rude, mean-spirited posts are not welcome there, either.
Stick to discussing the deal. Do not post needless rude or trivial comments about someone else's posts. Flaming can only hurt someone's feelings. Nuisance posts, such as "In before the lock," "lBTL" or other needless bumps just recycle bad threads and force good ones off the first page of the forum.
Think before you post. Rude posts can kill a good deal. For example, posts for deals on sexually related items such as condoms and lubricants are ok, but if others cannot refrain from posting lewd or childish remarks, that would be reason to lock or delete the thread.
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And you know what, what's the problem if people sell the surplus they bought? They run for what, 1-4 months overclocked, and then are sold to people who want to run them at default speed? Well sorry if out of a 10 year life span, that 1-4 months of overclocking in your eyes knocked about 5 years off the processors life. But thats 5 years left for running at default speed, which is more then enough for most people.
And yes, its true, if a new stepping comes out, that overclocks to XP 2300+ speeds and above, then there will be a huge stampede over it again, and these processors will be sold, and at most people will take on them is probably a 7-8$ loss for an extra 100+mhz. Well worth it I'd say, considering stores charge a higher premium then that for just 66mhz usually.
And near thermal breakdown many times? Oh boy, so running a processor at 1.85v is near thermal breakdown? Wow, never thought that AMD processors were such wimps when it came to this. Do you think every overclocker is willing to jack up the voltage to 2.1v, use peltiers, and otherwise do extreme things to their processors? No, those are extreme overclockers, and not the mass majority of overclockers.
True, this is not a hot deal for people who do not overclock, but for the people who can't afford to spend the excess amount of money on a higher speed processor and want to try their hand at it, it is a hot deal. This is not Steve's Hot Deals forums, it is Anandtech's, so if it's not hot for you, too damn bad.