BMW 2-Series

[Imported]

$49K for a 2 series? Yikes... Those packages sure add up quickly.

They sure do.

 

[schneiderguy]

Are the BMW i6s really dead in the US? All turbo fours and V8s?

Only the NA i6 is gone. The 335i still has a twin turbo i6, and isnt the new M3/M4 supposed to have an i6?

 

[Drako]

Only the NA i6 is gone. The 335i still has a twin turbo i6, and isnt the new M3/M4 supposed to have an i6?

That's what I was referring to - the NA i6 is gone.

The twin turbo i6 is only in the M, and not available in the base 2.

 

[007ELmO]

i maxed out my 330cic for 52K, but the M convertible was 55K base at the time - I should have upgraded. I still love my car, 100K miles now and almost 9 years old. These cars are amazing machines, the BMW brand model has been all over the place since the e46...no idea where to go from here.

 

[smackababy]

I haven't been a huge fan of BMW in quite awhile, but I am not minding this 2 series. I might check it out when my current lease is up. The 4 series is just getting too large for my tastes.

 

[senseamp]

BMW needs to do a sedan version of this for under $30K to take on the CLA, which is selling like hotcakes.

 

[007ELmO]

yeah the 30K Mercedez looks nice, I doubt it drives like a BMW but I definitely like their sport package looks - classy

 

[ElFenix]

Sad but true - a sad result of trying to meet CAFE requirements.

BMW has never met CAFE so i'm guessing this is more of a trying not to fall further behind.

 

[SSSnail]

Is it me, or does the 2 coupe looks a whole lot like a modern E46? Lots of styling cues from the E46 coupe.

 

[Imported]

Is it me, or does the 2 coupe looks a whole lot like a modern E46? Lots of styling cues from the E46 coupe.

I pretty much see it as the modern E46. Very similar in size as well.

 

[Drako]

BMW has never met CAFE so i'm guessing this is more of a trying not to fall further behind.

The i3 is coming to the US soon, so they are making the push to meet CAFE. We'll see if anyone is going to pay $44K for it

 

[tamm]

i3 is lining up for a quite a showing. It won`t be what the CLA is for Mercedes in terms of sales success, however its a product which next generation lovers will go for.

 

[tamm]

BMW needs to do a sedan version of this for under $30K to take on the CLA, which is selling like hotcakes.

They have its called the 320i.

 

[iamwiz82]

The i3 is coming to the US soon, so they are making the push to meet CAFE. We'll see if anyone is going to pay $44K for it

It's a slick car. My local dealer has one on display. The interior is odd but quite nice.

 

[DougoMan]

Wow they have really improved the looks of that Ford Mustang. err I mean BMW.

 

[tracerbullet]

twin turbo i6

Current N55 is a "twin scroll" turbo, which is a single turbo by the way most people would look at it. It's a trick with the fins.

Not trying to nitpick, just FYI if anyone cares.

It's 200 lbs. lighter than the 1 series

Per the international site, it looks like the 2 Series actually ended up about 100 pounds heavier than the 1. Not sure if that's apples to apples but it's the "unladen" weights from the site.

Curious the 2 is not on the BMW-USA site yet.

 

[hans007]

Current N55 is a "twin scroll" turbo, which is a single turbo by the way most people would look at it. It's a trick with the fins.

Not trying to nitpick, just FYI if anyone cares.



Per the international site, it looks like the 2 Series actually ended up about 100 pounds heavier than the 1. Not sure if that's apples to apples but it's the "unladen" weights from the site.

Curious the 2 is not on the BMW-USA site yet.

I'd figure its bigger too . the new 335i weighs a little more than the old one but its a much roomier car than the e90 one. I think it's only 50 lbs or so.

I'd guess the 228 weighs less than the 128 just like the new 328 since the turbo 4 is a lot lighter.

 

[tamm]

Its the norm with BMW. For instance Mini, owned and designed by BMW's new cooper was stated to have dropped a couple pounds in their Europe Official Release statement. However when a designer was asked specifically the weight for the NADM version, the cooper gained weight for various safety tech. So understandable.

Fyi the twinscroll turbos seem to still have some HPFP issues (not as much as though in the initial N54 days). Im guessing the M version of the 2 would have a modern version of the N54 with bi-turbos.

 

[007ELmO]

too many models out now

 

[tamm]

^Bmw finance honchos would disagree, as BMW, in addition to MB, Audi have become the luxury's classes Toyota in volume and offerings.

 

[SSSnail]

I pretty much see it as the modern E46. Very similar in size as well.

It's basically an E46 M3...

 

[007ELmO]

^Bmw finance honchos would disagree, as BMW, in addition to MB, Audi have become the luxury's classes Toyota in volume and offerings.

The years when the 3 series owned the sedan/coupe market are over, they're changing models every other year. e46 was the last good series, of course I'm biased.

 

[tamm]

Any E series was a remarkable drivers car over their current F-platform successors. The steering is Toyota like (not that Toyota's steering feel is wrong for their purpose), and they seem heavy (almost tank like). However I think their M versions (Not M-Sport) offer what purists are looking for.

I sat in the F15 X5 and compared it to the E70 X5 and it was night and day. The e70 is a drivers CUV vs the F15 being a mommy certified CUV.

 

[ND40oz]

I sat in the F15 X5 and compared it to the E70 X5 and it was night and day. The e70 is a drivers CUV vs the F15 being a mommy certified CUV.

I wouldn't consider either of them compact utility vehicles. I'm still not sold on the electric steering, but they have added DPC to the F15 which was only available on the E70 M. I'll have to see what they do with the M variant when it's time to trade in, may need to wait for the LCI though which is why I picked up a '13 when it became clear what direction they were going with the F15.