BMW Driver Blocks Hydrant.....7 Alarm Fire Breaks Out

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Humpy

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Those are intake ports for boosting flow, they aren't for output.

Edit: To better explain, pumps are hooked up to either of the "splitter". This boosts pressure above normal hydrant levels, allowing water to reach higher heights and longer distances.

What are the pumps connected to?

Are the two side ports the same size as the single port that the hose is hooked to? If so why?
 

BoomerD

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NOT SURE IF SERIOUS

They're trying to FIGHT A FUCKING FIRE and you want them to call a tow truck?

mind=blown

this thread is completely bananas.


Were you born stupid or do you have to work at it?

I didn't say a fucking thing about calling a tow truck. Those fire trucks are equipped to hook a chain and pull a vehicle out of the way when needed.

That would have only taken a few seconds. I don't suggest they should have done it to spare the car...they could have ripped it in half for all I care...but I suggest it because it would have given them better access to the hydrant.
 

Ns1

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I didn't say a fucking thing about calling a tow truck. Those fire trucks are equipped to hook a chain and pull a vehicle out of the way when needed.

I would argue that breaking the windows would cause less in potential damages.

but srsly, why are we arguing this? douche parked in front of a hydrant, douche deserves whatever he gets.
 
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MrDudeMan

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Were you born stupid or do you have to work at it?

I didn't say a fucking thing about calling a tow truck. Those fire trucks are equipped to hook a chain and pull a vehicle out of the way when needed.

That would have only taken a few seconds. I don't suggest they should have done it to spare the car...they could have ripped it in half for all I care...but I suggest it because it would have given them better access to the hydrant.

Excellent use of the F bomb. This is a template for others to use imo.
 

BrayD

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A Firefighters perspective from another forum:

"Firefighter and Driver Pump Operator here. Four inch coupling won't easily fit under a BMW sedan nor most other sedans. Second, I don't have time to feed it under. Not making that up. I do more in the first five minutes on seen pumping then the rest of the fire. When people need a continuous water supply not just the tank water, they need it right now. Third, the bend it would take to go under that car actually makes two kinks one at the hydrant and one to bend under the car that kills a lot of GPM's. Fourth, the dent in the car almost undoubtedly came from charging the line. You would be surprised by how much force a 4 inch has. They may be using 5 or 6 inch. As for him being there to move his car, sorry, no time to uncouple my hose, remove the wheel chocks, take my engine out of pump, drive around the block, come back, put it back in pump, throw my wheel chock, recouple my hose, and complete my connection. And that is assuming that they didn't pull an attack line off my truck. Then it isn't just a colossal waste of time, there is pretty much no way to say it isn't stopping the tactical objectives of command getting completed and endangering the lives of occupants or endangering exposures.

Now onto the BMW driver. He chose to park there. Those are the consequences. That hydrant and my ability to connect to it QUICKLY makes a huge difference in the outcomes of fires and the safety of my crew. You park there, knowing damn well you aren't supposed to park there, to me, it says fuck you and your crew's safety. Well...FUCK YOU TOO. I love my profession, I don't do it just for the paycheck. I work for the person that calls 911. I do this job to help people, when they need me. But to me, you parking in front of a hydrant is like spitting in my face. Just like parking in a fire lane (which I can't park in while in my engine unless I am on a call). Don't do it. Solves this whole issue."

What are the pumps connected to?

Are the two side ports the same size as the single port that the hose is hooked to? If so why?

Same guy:

"It's preconnected this way. Pull off the truck, hook up and go. Another pump comes along and hooks into both open sides of the fitting. They start pumping into one side and throw a switch on the fitting. Hydrant flow switches to the other side and into the second pump. Because the pump is so close, the plug has much less friction loss to fight and can flow better, and since the second pump is pumping way higher than static pressure, supply at the attack pump is much better. All from the same plug.
The second output only works with 2 flowing intakes though. "
 

Humpy

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Same guy:

"It's preconnected this way. Pull off the truck, hook up and go. Another pump comes along and hooks into both open sides of the fitting. They start pumping into one side and throw a switch on the fitting. Hydrant flow switches to the other side and into the second pump. Because the pump is so close, the plug has much less friction loss to fight and can flow better, and since the second pump is pumping way higher than static pressure, supply at the attack pump is much better. All from the same plug.
The second output only works with 2 flowing intakes though. "

I found a video that explains the valve. The explanations given in the thread kinda sucked but that's not unexpected. Regardless, based on the video, the firefighters didn't have much of a choice in how they hooked up the lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGATJTLAKM
 

spidey07

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Only on ATOT can people think they know how to better attach and run a firehose than freaking firemen.

Fuck the car and it's driver. Time is lives and safety, he endangered people by parking there.
 

Tommy2000GT

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As opposed to a dick move by the BMW owner? He broke the law, the Firemen were just doing their jobs, you know, putting out fires and saving lives.

I bet the BMW owner parked there temporarily and never expected a fire to happen. But yes the BMW owner did do a dick move by parking there. But 2 dick moves don't make it right.
 

Ns1

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I bet the BMW owner parked there temporarily and never expected a fire to happen. But yes the BMW owner did do a dick move by parking there. But 2 dick moves don't make it right.

1) 404 dick move on behalf of firefighters not found
2) let's pretend it was a dick move for a second: it sure does make it right when you're fighting a fucking fire.
 

OCGuy

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If they won't move out of the way for someone on a runway, what makes you think your precious 3-series will be spared?




(too soon?)
 

Capt Caveman

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I bet the BMW owner parked there temporarily and never expected a fire to happen. But yes the BMW owner did do a dick move by parking there. But 2 dick moves don't make it right.

You defend this guy b/c it's douchebag thing that you would do.
 

Dari

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I wonder if there would even be an article if that car wasn't a BMW. Too many envious people...
 

rh71

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BMW owner parks in front of hydrant, starts a fire, and sues the city. Film at 11.
 

spidey07

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BMW owner parks in front of hydrant, starts a fire, and sues the city. Film at 11.

He can't. There is likely a city/state law that shields firemen from doing what they need to do. And that's what they did. They need that water right freaking now, fuck anything in the way.
 
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