Boardwalk Empire - Season Three

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dougp

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Did Gillian die?

That's an unanswered question. I'm not sure if she received enough drugs to OD or if she's just high. My presumption was she used enough like she did when she killed that guy, so enough to make her lucid.
 

PottedMeat

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that was a great episode.

so nucky played everyone?

so meyer/lucky get a loan for $100k from masseria for 50lb of heroin. rothstein knows they were trying to get into the business and have his men steal/scam the drugs from luciano. nucky's in a bind but has the overholt distillery. rothstein gets into the heroin business with masseria, in exchange masseria drops gyp rosetti. rothstein gets overholt with mickey doyle from nucky. nucky gets mellon to drop a dime on rothstein's taking over the distillery.

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One story element that made zero sense to me; Why did Mellon turn in Rothstein to the DA over Overholt when he was perfectly willing to let Nucky run it for a percentage? Nucky had literally nothing Mellon would want to use as a bargaining chip to get him to flip on Rothstein, and if the DA shutters Overholt, it's not like Nucky can get it running again to make Mellon a profit. So what's the angle from Mellon's side? He has absolutely no reason to care about the beef between Rothstein and Nucky, and by shuttering Overholt, the only outcome is less personal profit. I don't get that story element at all.

Apart from that, that was an excellent season finale. Richard gets shit done like a boss.
 

PottedMeat

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One story element that made zero sense to me; Why did Mellon turn in Rothstein to the DA over Overholt when he was perfectly willing to let Nucky run it for a percentage? Nucky had literally nothing Mellon would want to use as a bargaining chip to get him to flip on Rothstein, and if the DA shutters Overholt, it's not like Nucky can get it running again to make Mellon a profit. So what's the angle from Mellon's side? He has absolutely no reason to care about the beef between Rothstein and Nucky, and by shuttering Overholt, the only outcome is less personal profit. I don't get that story element at all.

did they ever say Gaston Means has dirt on Mellon? a little cash from nucky would let him screw rothstein for not support nucky vs gyp
 
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did they ever say Gaston Means has dirt on Mellon? a little cash from nucky would let him screw rothstein for not support nucky vs gyp
OK, but even with that, what does Nucky have on Means to get him on his side? Money? I'm pretty sure Gaston Means could extort a lot more out of Mellon than he could get from Nucky if he actually had something on him. I couldn't figure the angle where Nucky has anything that either Mellon or Means would want to engage in such a deal, especially seeing as how it is costing Mellon a considerable sum of money.
 

jhansman

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I enjoy James Cromwell in just about anything he's in, but really? The real Andrew Mellon would never have met in person with a Nucky Thompson. No one who reaches that stage of wealth and power would risk it by coming into contact with even the most powerful bootlegger. Otherwise, good season. I want to see Richard's and Capone's characters develop.
 

Skel

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OK, but even with that, what does Nucky have on Means to get him on his side? Money? I'm pretty sure Gaston Means could extort a lot more out of Mellon than he could get from Nucky if he actually had something on him. I couldn't figure the angle where Nucky has anything that either Mellon or Means would want to engage in such a deal, especially seeing as how it is costing Mellon a considerable sum of money.

Not sure it's a case of having anything on him. Means mentioned in the past that he genuinely liked Nucky, so he might have gotten involved as a favor. Nucky is one of those people that even as far down as he fell, everyone pretty much knew as long as he was alive he'd regain his throne. That was why Masseria was obsessed telling Gyp he's nothing until he has Nucky's corpse.
 
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I enjoy James Cromwell in just about anything he's in, but really? The real Andrew Mellon would never have met in person with a Nucky Thompson. No one who reaches that stage of wealth and power would risk it by coming into contact with even the most powerful bootlegger. Otherwise, good season. I want to see Richard's and Capone's characters develop.
To be fair, Mellon never once initiated a meeting with Thompson. They had the initial meeting where Nucky introduced himself and made a proposal, after which Mellon had him expelled from the club. Then Mellon made a single phone call to Nucky to agree to his terms. There was no other contact between them. In fact, he expressly said that they would have no further contact after the phone call. He clearly was protecting himself from being associated with Nucky.
 

techs

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With all due to respect to the critics, I think they may have missed the deeper meanings of the show.
A substantial part of the show is about life in the 1920's. And how Prohibition affected so many parts of that life.
 

waterjug

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last 1/2 of this season was infinitely better once they cut Nucky's wife's screen time down and got back to the skulduggery, which is always the best part of the series.

I enjoyed Nucky's plot with the distillery, amazing.

I'm assuming next season they're going to show Capone & Lucky coming to power as they were around this time.
 

EvilYoda

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Finally watched the season finale - everything built up really well but I (like many others) am still disappointed by Gillian's "fate".

Richard's timing was impeccable...anybody picture him just camped out somewhere on the outskirts of the property waiting for his time to strike? The last move with the rifle was great...you knew what he was going to do but it still paid off.

So now Nucky's a changed man in terms of how he'll operate...Rothstein's going to get pinched, Masseria's out of the way so to speak. Next season should be interesting. I'm also hoping that Margaret just disappears...and I really really don't want to see Gillian again but I doubt they'd leave her ending that vague just to have her quietly die off.
 

jhansman

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With all due to respect to the critics, I think they may have missed the deeper meanings of the show.
A substantial part of the show is about life in the 1920's. And how Prohibition affected so many parts of that life.

No, we got that. And, I doubt this show is anything like real life in that or any other city during that period. It's stylized and melodramatic for the sake of TV. Nonetheless, it has it's moments. Sorry to see Gyp get it. He added a needed edge to the entire story.
 
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