Who is stopping you from writing a check? the federal government has no business in the art industry.... it is out of the scope of the government's mission.
I disagree: The Arts deserve support.
Okay, but color me confused.
How is this exhibit any different than burning the koran?
Seriously?
It's religiously offensive. OF COURSE people in that religion are going to object.
Now, maybe I'm wrong, but there was a MASSIVE outcry from the left over the koran burning.
Now, to state my position: I am against ANY censorship of any kind. The artist is free to make his religiously insulting stuff, and people are free to protest it.
I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy here.
I don't believe that.
I don't.
I also don't believe the government gets to set the standard of what is "acceptable" and what's "unacceptable", either. Individuals decide for themselves what they want to see or what they want to avoid.
I wish I could agree with you, but I can't. Government should not be able to set the standard, but it does because the Constitution is just a bunch of quaint ideas about the roles and limits of the federal government which are routinely ignored. That being the case, at the very least I want to see the law applied equally. If a nativity scene is offensive to non-Christians and forced to be taken down, then so should this.
Let's pander to the fundamentalists, so we can get them to vote for us to screw them financially. Doesn't cost us a cent to champion their censorship agenda.
Fair question. Protesting is one thing, threatening to defund an Institution because of it is another. That said, if Dudes Church was somehow funded Publicly, like through a Soup Kitchen or something similar, it wouldn't surprise me if the Democrats would seek to defund it.
Really??
Then why don't you cover a Khoran in sh*t, publicize the act, and see what happens?
Bet the people around you don't congratulate you on your "art"!
Now back up the claim that it is a hate crime to do that to a Muslim image. Show me a law that makes it a hate crime. If you can't, you are full of it.Related question: Why is it OK to do this stuff to a Christian image. Yet a hate crime to do it to a Muslim one?
Stop diverting.
You made a claim that this would be hate crime.
Let me quote you to you:
Now back up the claim that it is a hate crime to do that to a Muslim image. Show me a law that makes it a hate crime. If you can't, you are full of it.
A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday on hate-crime charges after he threw a Quran in a toilet at Pace University on two separate occasions, police said.
Stanislav Shmulevich of Brooklyn was arrested on charges of criminal mischief and aggravated harassment, both hate crimes, police said. It was unclear if he was a student at the school. A message left at the Shmulevich home was not immediately returned.
The Islamic holy book was found in a toilet at Pace’s lower Manhattan campus by a teacher on Oct. 13. A student discovered another book in a toilet on Nov. 21, police said.
Muslim activists had called on Pace University to crack down on hate crimes after the incidents. As a result, the university said it would offer sensitivity training to its students.
The school was accused by Muslim students of not taking the incident seriously enough at first. Pace classified the first desecration of the holy book as an act of vandalism, but university officials later reversed themselves and referred the incident to the New York Police Department’s hate crimes unit
The exhibit wouldn't be possible without its sponsors, not money from the government.
Who gets to decide what's "appropriate" and what isn't?
Okay, but color me confused.
How is this exhibit any different than burning the koran?
Seriously?
BOTH are needed. Without federal money the Smithsonian would not even exist, so this exhibit funded by private funds would not happen there either.
The people do, through their representatives. That's what they are there for.
Look, I'm not advocating banning anything or censoring something. If people want to see it or whatever, that's up to them.
Boehner and Cantor are saying "hey, if they exhibit this kind of garbage, it's a good indicator that we should carefully look at the federal money going to the smithsonian in the future". They are right.
Was he convicted of a hate crime? Just because a cop was ignorant of the law, doesn't mean you aren't.
If it was a Bible, there would be no charges, there would be no story, there would probably be something funny on Comedy Central about it.
Stop Islamization…
NEW YORK– A former Pace University student who twice threw copies of the Koran into a toilet at the school after disputes with Muslims pleaded guilty Monday to disorderly conduct in connection with the incidents.
Stanislav Shmulevich, 24, pleaded guilty as part of a deal in which he must do 300 hours of community service. He has completed about 80 hours of the service at a hospital, his lawyer said.
Shmulevich, of Brooklyn, admitted he tossed the Muslim holy books into toilets at Pace on Oct. 13, 2006, and Nov. 21, 2006. A criminal complaint says the Koran that was recovered in the October incident “was covered in feces.”
In both cases, a teacher found the books in a men’s room on the second floor of the school’s main building in lower Manhattan.
Muslims consider the Koran a sacred writing that contains the direct word of God, and desecrating it is seen as an offense against God.
Detective Faisal Khan, who prepared the complaint, said Shmulevich told him “he committed the acts out of anger toward a group of Muslim students with whom he had a recent disagreement.”
Shmulevich, a business major and immigrant from the former Soviet Union, initially was charged with two counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime. The charge is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison.
His lawyer, Glenn Morak, said he believed the disorderly conduct plea was an appropriate disposition.
What group doesn't want to impose their view? Most liberals I know will certainly tell me their view if I say anything right leaning. When they try and "correct" me, how is that not in some degree imposing their morality on me? You can't say the left, or any other group doesn't do the same as what you mentioned about the right.
The people do, through their representatives. That's what they are there for. Look, I'm not advocating banning anything or censoring something. If people want to see it or whatever, that's up to them. Boehner and Cantor are saying "hey, if they exhibit this kind of garbage, it's a good indicator that we should carefully look at the federal money going to the smithsonian in the future". They are right.
Really, I'd seem to think all the old people who vote republican would leave that party in droves if you tried to take away their SS and Medicare, yet you call them positions of the Left...
Who is stopping you from writing a check? the federal government has no business in the art industry.... it is out of the scope of the government's mission.