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You just posted a link to your post that's a couple posts above. That doesn't answer my question.
Was that sarcasm or are you starting to read between the lines of what he said?
You just posted a link to your post that's a couple posts above. That doesn't answer my question.
Did you not read that post?
you know, piss on it. I hope we go over the fiscal cliff.
Sure I'll get hit with a tax increase from 25% to 28% on a fair amount of money, it's worth it to screw everyone else over.
The automatic cuts are needed, and F the wall street folks with their 15% cap gains.
I gotta worry about me and mine more than having the luxury of all my political ideals being met.
Your are trying to mislead or are just intellectually dishonest.
Simpson Bowles pegged the top tax rate at 28%, but also set for capital gains and dividends at 28%.
The republicans would be stupid to take a 28% across the board top marginal rate including capital gains and dividends. A 4% increase of marginal tax rates on 1.5% of the populace, is a hell of a lot small tax hike than a 13% increase of capital gains/dividends.
The republicans have every thing to lose here. The majority of those voted yesterday support tax increases on those making $250k. The republicans will be blamed for the massive tax increases to everyone, for the protection of 1.5% of the population.
A compromise can be made so long as the Republicans drop the asinine tax pledge.
So, uhh, Repubs are the party of the Rich, for the Rich, and by the Rich, right?
Dems' best answer is to let all the Bush taxcuts expire if they have to, to raise taxes at the top & increase revenue. Propose new middle & working class tax cuts. Let Repubs go home & explain to their broke-ass red state welfare queen constituencies why it was so important to sacrifice their voters in vain defense of their financial supporters...
Let 'em explain why 40% of the state budget of Mississippi, for example, went poof! along with their food stamps & everything else.
Repubs are essentially hostage taking economic terrorists at this point, so give 'em the Dick Cheney answer- We don't negotiate with terrorists! Got a hostage? Just kill the poor bastard, and then you'll have nothing...
If they can't back down from their own bullshit, hang the consequences around their necks like a dead albatross, beat the Hell out of 'em in the midterms.
Even Teahadists won't buy that bullshit...
So, uhh, Repubs are the party of the Rich, for the Rich, and by the Rich, right?
Dems' best answer is to let all the Bush taxcuts expire if they have to, to raise taxes at the top & increase revenue. Propose new middle & working class tax cuts. Let Repubs go home & explain to their broke-ass red state welfare queen constituencies why it was so important to sacrifice their voters in vain defense of their financial supporters...
Let 'em explain why 40% of the state budget of Mississippi, for example, went poof! along with their food stamps & everything else.
Repubs are essentially hostage taking economic terrorists at this point, so give 'em the Dick Cheney answer- We don't negotiate with terrorists! Got a hostage? Just kill the poor bastard, and then you'll have nothing...
If they can't back down from their own bullshit, hang the consequences around their necks like a dead albatross, beat the Hell out of 'em in the midterms.
Even Teahadists won't buy that bullshit...
That's all they have to do. Let the tax increases and spending cuts kick in. Then, they can jump in (together), cut the taxes for everyone below $250,000 and problem solved. Repubs can say that they didn't vote to raise taxes and actually cut them (back to current levels). The dems can say that they got their revenue increases.
Ok, I got it. You are a fucking idiot and incapable of having a discussion. Go read a civics book dumbass and learn how the government works.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Boehner isn't saying what people think he's saying. When he uses the phrase "raise taxes" what he really means is tax "reforms" that will cause the middle class to pay more in taxes.
Boehner's a slime ball.
That's quite ironic coming from on of the bigger hacks on this forum. Exactly how many people did you tell to fuck off and suck it last night?
This. The GOP is cornered on this, especially on the Bush tax cuts, because they all expire if Congress simply does nothing. Once they expire, the dems just sponsor a bill that cuts taxes for the middle class, and the GOP can either support it or oppose a middle class tax cut, at their electoral peril. OTOH they can support the new tax cut bill without violating their pledge, so in the end we're going to get exactly what Obama wants, while the repubs will save face.
Sounds good, but as soon as it happens the Republicans will claim that "Obama raised taxes" by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. They're already doing it.
That's quite ironic coming from on of the bigger hacks on this forum. Exactly how many people did you tell to fuck off and suck it last night?
People in glass houses...That's quite ironic coming from on of the bigger hacks on this forum. Exactly how many people did you tell to fuck off and suck it last night?
Can't the GOP just pass their own bill in the House cutting everyone's taxes and when the Dems block it claim the same thing? Isn't this a more likely scenario considering GOP still controls the House?This. The GOP is cornered on this, especially on the Bush tax cuts, because they all expire if Congress simply does nothing. Once they expire, the dems just sponsor a bill that cuts taxes for the middle class, and the GOP can either support it or oppose a middle class tax cut, at their electoral peril. OTOH they can support the new tax cut bill without violating their pledge, so in the end we're going to get exactly what Obama wants, while the repubs will save face.
Can't the GOP just pass their own bill in the House cutting everyone's taxes and when the Dems block it claim the same thing? Isn't this a more likely scenario considering GOP still controls the House?
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-raising-tax-rates-unacceptable-173931049.html
NO INCREASE IN RATES IS ACCEPTABLE.