Boehner finally concedes to raise taxes on the rich.

[piasabird]

Some people just think it is ok to steal from rich people.

Under Obammacare people making over $200,000 will pay a higher O'Bammacare tax. So there is already a bill that will tax the rich at a higher rate. I really like this revenue neutral health care. I hope you all like the tax you voted for? Tax Em! Pay that health care tax starting in January!

 

[Phokus]

Cheney said it, Obama proved it.

Ever heard the name Ronald Reagan before?

 

[Ausm]

Irrelevant. Your guy is in charge now. Even if the messiah gets his way on tax hikes, we're still screwed as he'll never cut spending, except defense. Defense certainly can stand some cutting, but it's not gonna get us anywhere near even the Bush deficits.

We do baseline budgeting. That means a 'cut' is merely a reduction in the increase. You could jack up tax rates to pre Reagan levels and drastically cut back deductions and we'd still be running deficits.

Thank you for playing, oh pathetic one.

Why would it be irrelevant when 65% of the deficit was due to their Reign, smartass?

 

[Matt1970]

Ever heard the name Ronald Reagan before?

Your real dad?

 

[Olikan]

Some people just think it is ok to steal from rich people.

Under Obammacare people making over $200,000 will pay a higher O'Bammacare tax. So there is already a bill that will tax the rich at a higher rate. I really like this revenue neutral health care. I hope you all like the tax you voted for? Tax Em! Pay that health care tax starting in January!

...why so mad? are you rich?

don't really matter, steal from rich and give it to the poor, will just make the money go back to the rich

 

[buckshot24]

Ever heard the name Ronald Reagan before?

Spending from 1981 to 1989 adjusted for inflation and population growth went up 11% under Reagan (who never had a republican house btw). Revenues increased 16% (adjusted for inflation and population growth )during the same time period.

 

[buckshot24]

...why so mad? are you rich?

don't really matter, steal from rich and give it to the poor, will just make the money go back to the rich

Thats the truth. Poor people are poor for a reason.

 

[Throckmorton]

Thats the truth. Poor people are poor for a reason.

Yes, the reason being that's the way a capitalist economy works. Everybody can't be rich, everybody can't be middle class.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, the reason being that's the way a capitalist economy works. Everybody can't be rich, everybody can't be middle class.

It isn't just the circumstances of poor people that make them poor was the point.

 

[Olikan]

It isn't just the circumstances of poor people that make them poor was the point.

sometimes it is, sometimes you are right...

but, doesn't really matter, a state have to make sure that the rich don't get richier, and a poor poorer...

that or the state will face severe problems, beeing a population starved to death, or rich people beeing more powerfull than the state itself

 

[OBLAMA2009]

republicans seem unable to accept that they just lost an election

 

[Matt1970]

sometimes it is, sometimes you are right...

but, doesn't really matter, a state have to make sure that the rich don't get richier, and a poor poorer...

that or the state will face severe problems, beeing a population starved to death, or rich people beeing more powerfull than the state itself

Yep, make sure people don't get any richer. And people think I have bad English.....

 

[Matt1970]

republicans seem unable to accept that they just lost an election

And Democrats don't seem to understand that people just want the parties to work together.

 

[First]

Spending from 1981 to 1989 adjusted for inflation and population growth went up 11% under Reagan (who never had a republican house btw). Revenues increased 16% (adjusted for inflation and population growth )during the same time period.

lol link it troll.

 

[Olikan]

Yep, make sure people don't get any richer. And people think I have bad English.....

i am brazilian if you don't know

 

[Matt1970]

i am brazilian if you don't know

Ok, then you get a pass on the English.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

And Democrats don't seem to understand that people just want the parties to work together.

You are so unbelievably full of shit. I mean do you just stream Fox News all day and type whatever you hear them say while you're looking through this forum?

If by people you mean the American public, then you are right, but you usually mean people in reference to Republicans. And I would have to point out the non-stop stall tactics your Godmasters pulled on Obama for his entire first term in order to paint him as the next Carter and get him voted out.

Well, it didn't work so now the only people that need to work together is your Lord and Saviors over on the right. America is not buying their bullshit anymore no matter how much you come in here and lie and try to obfuscate.

 

[Matt1970]

You are so unbelievably full of shit. I mean do you just stream Fox News all day and type whatever you hear them say while you're looking through this forum?

If by people you mean the American public, then you are right, but you usually mean people in reference to Republicans. And I would have to point out the non-stop stall tactics your Godmasters pulled on Obama for his entire first term in order to paint him as the next Carter and get him voted out.

Well, it didn't work so now the only people that need to work together is your Lord and Saviors over on the right. America is not buying their bullshit anymore no matter how much you come in here and lie and try to obfuscate.

Reguardless of what you hear or think about me people want both parties to work together.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Why would it be irrelevant when 65% of the deficit was due to their Reign, smartass?

And you're guy is doubling down. Blame the past all you want, it doesn't alter present reality. Obama wants to spend. The tax increases won't even come close to making up for that. And NOBODY on this board has provided anything to show otherwise.

 

[etrigan420]

Reguardless of what you hear or think about me people want both parties to work together.

Where were the members of your "Party to Work Together-i-ness" before the election?

Can you understand how we on the other side have a bit of a "go fuck yourself" attitude when after 2 years of NOTHING BUT obstructionism, you claim that now, after getting your asses handed to you last month, we should all "work together"?

 

[shady28]

So here's my prediction on what is about to happen.

1 - On Dec 14th, the House adjourns with no solution to the fiscal cliff. The Senate is TBD. Smart people start to exit the markets; the other 99% think they have a couple of weeks.
2 - Sometime the week of Dec 17th, the Senate will adjourn. The markets will tank and helicopter Ben will fight it - after all, best take your profits now before the tax hikes (and with no solution, tax hikes will hit like 95% of Americans).
3 - By Dec 21st, the markets will be wrecked and there will be hoarding and bank runs. People will think the Mayans were right.

And maybe they will have been, b/c that would mark the 'end of an Age' right?

Let's see how that goes, just 2 weeks away.

Edit, Fiscal Cliff in a Nutshell :

Among the laws set to change at midnight on December 31, 2012, are the end of last year’s temporary payroll tax cuts (resulting in a 2% tax increase for workers), the end of certain tax breaks for businesses, shifts in the alternative minimum tax that would take a larger bite, the end of the tax cuts from 2001-2003, and the beginning of taxes related to President Obama’s health care law. At the same time, the spending cuts agreed upon as part of the debt ceiling deal of 2011 will begin to go into effect. According to Barron's, over 1,000 government programs - including the defense budget and Medicare are in line for "deep, automatic cuts."

 

[nehalem256]

And Democrats don't seem to understand that people just want the parties to work together.

Umm, is that why Republicans said they wouldn't accept deficit reduction proposals that included spending decreases at a 10-1 rate over revenue increases?

 

[PokerGuy]

republicans seem unable to accept that they just lost an election

Democrats seem unable to accept that republicans lost the election but still had roughly 47-48% of the vote, and that their constituents will not stand for them letting the idiots in congress and the white house jack up tax rates on all rather than cutting wasteful spending. Their job is to do whatever they can to prevent the libs from destroying the country.

 

[etrigan420]

Democrats seem unable to accept that republicans lost the election but still had roughly 47-48% of the vote, and that their constituents will not stand for them letting the idiots in congress and the white house jack up tax rates on all rather than cutting wasteful spending. Their job is to do whatever they can to prevent the libs from destroying the country.

So you *don't* want to work together?

You guys need to take a time out, go back to the huddle, and come up with a fucking plan.

This time, try making it palatable to *more* than just middle aged white men.

Good god, if your collective heads get any more up your collective asses you will fold into yourselves and implode into a singularity of glorious proportions.

We shall remember and speak of you fondly.

...no

 

[Doppel]

The fiscal cliff has never seriously been in the cards anyway. It saddens me that people don't realize this.