Bonds HR 714

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astrocase

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So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.
 

msparish

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Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

Bonds admitted using to a Grand Jury...but he claimed he didn't know what they were. Rather, they were just supplied by his trainer. However, most believe he knew about it and did more than he admitted in his testimony.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

So is it blind fanaticism or hopeless naiveté that is preventing you from accepting what the rest of the world already has?
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

Whether Bonds knowingly took steroids is still in question. Whether he took them is not. Do you know why??? Because he told a freaking grand jury that he took them *sigh* myopians make my head hurt...

 

stevent76

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I am glad he finally hit 714. I was really getting tired of commentators discussing it. Now maybe they will talk about some real baseball.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

More to do with racism than jealously, IMO. with both Kobe and Bonds.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

More to do with racism than jealously, IMO. with both Kobe and Bonds.

lollerskates, I knew race was going to come into the discussion. :roll: People have no problem with 99% of African-American atheletes, but people criticize one or two and ZOMG RACISTS!!!!11!!ONE!1!!!

You want to see a racist, look one post above yours.
 

classy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

More to do with racism than jealously, IMO. with both Kobe and Bonds.

lollerskates, I knew race was going to come into the discussion. :roll: People have no problem with 99% of African-American atheletes, but people criticize one or two and ZOMG RACISTS!!!!11!!ONE!1!!!

You want to see a racist, look one post above yours.


Last time I checked I have never met you. So your judgement of me is not only stupid, but expected. See you @ss clowns are just pissed that I don't go along with your prejudice and racist opinions of blacks and I speak my mind. So everytime there is a discussion you run out the racist charge because your too f'in stupid to actually think of anything. On the subject of Bonds, his color has nothing to do with my saying he is the greatest baseball player. I believe that Joe Montana is the greatest QB so if I make that statement does that make me racist as well. If you can't post an objection with some substance then just stfu. I have seen several racist threads started by your buddies here lately that the mods have deleted, kudos to them finally. No one needs to keep reading that trash. But I did not see you in any of them calling those folks out as racists. Bonds' color has nothing to do with it, if you want a blueprint of the perfect ball player he would be the mold, plain and simple.
 

Dritnul

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Jan 9, 2006
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I dont give a crap bout bonds because Pujols is gonna smash any record he sets in the next few years hes alreay over pace to hit 80 by end of this year and already has 222 in 5 and a quarter seasons played

Go Cards!
 

Dritnul

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look at his stats eraly in his career his was a leadoff or #2 batter who was really small from what ive heard he got pissed cuz of all the fame McGwire got even though he wasnt that good of a player....but only bary really knows..and maybe his trainer
 

KLin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

More to do with racism than jealously, IMO. with both Kobe and Bonds.

lollerskates, I knew race was going to come into the discussion. :roll: People have no problem with 99% of African-American atheletes, but people criticize one or two and ZOMG RACISTS!!!!11!!ONE!1!!!

You want to see a racist, look one post above yours.


Last time I checked I have never met you. So your judgement of me is not only stupid, but expected. See you @ss clowns are just pissed that I don't go along with your prejudice and racist opinions of blacks and I speak my mind. So everytime there is a discussion you run out the racist charge because your too f'in stupid to actually think of anything. On the subject of Bonds, his color has nothing to do with my saying he is the greatest baseball player. I believe that Joe Montana is the greatest QB so if I make that statement does that make me racist as well. If you can't post an objection with some substance then just stfu. I have seen several racist threads started by your buddies here lately that the mods have deleted, kudos to them finally. No one needs to keep reading that trash. But I did not see you in any of them calling those folks out as racists. Bonds' color has nothing to do with it, if you want a blueprint of the perfect ball player he would be the mold, plain and simple.


Chuckywang, is that you?
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: astrocase
So is it conclusive that Bonds did illegal steroids or is this the classic jealousy rage of trying to piss on someone's success? You see it with Kobe and you see it with Bonds.

More to do with racism than jealously, IMO. with both Kobe and Bonds.

lollerskates, I knew race was going to come into the discussion. :roll: People have no problem with 99% of African-American atheletes, but people criticize one or two and ZOMG RACISTS!!!!11!!ONE!1!!!

You want to see a racist, look one post above yours.


Last time I checked I have never met you.

You are correct. What difference does that make? Is 6000+ posts on an Internet forum not enough to base an opinion on?

So your judgement of me is not only stupid, but expected.

All I can say to that is :roll:

See you @ss clowns are just pissed that I don't go along with your prejudice and racist opinions of blacks and I speak my mind.

No, you've proven through countless threads that you're a racist. But you're too blinded by your own racism to even recognize that.

So everytime there is a discussion you run out the racist charge because your too f'in stupid to actually think of anything.

No, it's because you are a racist.

On the subject of Bonds, his color has nothing to do with my saying he is the greatest baseball player. I believe that Joe Montana is the greatest QB so if I make that statement does that make me racist as well.

Not many people agree with you that Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time. Especially if you exclude the steroid years.

If you can't post an objection with some substance then just stfu.

Steroids.

I have seen several racist threads started by your buddies here lately that the mods have deleted, kudos to them finally.

I have no buddies here.

No one needs to keep reading that trash. But I did not see you in any of them calling those folks out as racists.

I have no idea what threads your talking about, and you have no idea if I've even read them.

Bonds' color has nothing to do with it, if you want a blueprint of the perfect ball player he would be the mold, plain and simple.

Including or excluding the steroids?
 
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Im getting tired of people crying about his steroid use. Do you fools realize how many players use and are never caught?

Steroids are used by tons of athletes in all sports especially World class athletes.

Every single college baseball player I know who has a legit shot in the MLB is a user and this is fact. Keep in mind I am saying the ones I KNOW, not every single player. I know roughly 25 guys who have a decent shot in the majors.

Its very tempting to use when you know that others may be using thus having a slight advantage. This should have been nipped in the bud long ago. Steroids have no place in sports and baseball let it get out of hand.
 

Dritnul

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as much as i hate barry i will admit u must give him some credit because u still have to connect with the pitches
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Im getting tired of people crying about his steroid use. Do you fools realize how many players use and are never caught?

Steroids are used by tons of athletes in all sports especially World class athletes.

Every single college baseball player I know who has a legit shot in the MLB is a user and this is fact. Keep in mind I am saying the ones I KNOW, not every single player. I know roughly 25 guys who have a decent shot in the majors.

Its very tempting to use when you know that others may be using thus having a slight advantage. This should have been nipped in the bud long ago. Steroids have no place in sports and baseball let it get out of hand.

Your first and last paragraphs don't really fit together.

I agree with your last paragraph.
 
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Im getting tired of people crying about his steroid use. Do you fools realize how many players use and are never caught?

Steroids are used by tons of athletes in all sports especially World class athletes.

Every single college baseball player I know who has a legit shot in the MLB is a user and this is fact. Keep in mind I am saying the ones I KNOW, not every single player. I know roughly 25 guys who have a decent shot in the majors.

Its very tempting to use when you know that others may be using thus having a slight advantage. This should have been nipped in the bud long ago. Steroids have no place in sports and baseball let it get out of hand.

Your first and last paragraphs don't really fit together.

I agree with your last paragraph.


Im saying its so out of hand now I can understand why they do it. It never should have gotten this far. People seem to only care about Bonds use. If it is that terrible he should be removed from the game completely.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Im getting tired of people crying about his steroid use. Do you fools realize how many players use and are never caught?

Steroids are used by tons of athletes in all sports especially World class athletes.

Every single college baseball player I know who has a legit shot in the MLB is a user and this is fact. Keep in mind I am saying the ones I KNOW, not every single player. I know roughly 25 guys who have a decent shot in the majors.

Its very tempting to use when you know that others may be using thus having a slight advantage. This should have been nipped in the bud long ago. Steroids have no place in sports and baseball let it get out of hand.

Your first and last paragraphs don't really fit together.

I agree with your last paragraph.


Im saying its so out of hand now I can understand why they do it. It never should have gotten this far. People seem to only care about Bonds use. If it is that terrible he should be removed from the game completely.

People only seem to care about Bonds's use because it is most obvious. It SHOULD be removed from the game completely.
 
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Im getting tired of people crying about his steroid use. Do you fools realize how many players use and are never caught?

Steroids are used by tons of athletes in all sports especially World class athletes.

Every single college baseball player I know who has a legit shot in the MLB is a user and this is fact. Keep in mind I am saying the ones I KNOW, not every single player. I know roughly 25 guys who have a decent shot in the majors.

Its very tempting to use when you know that others may be using thus having a slight advantage. This should have been nipped in the bud long ago. Steroids have no place in sports and baseball let it get out of hand.

Your first and last paragraphs don't really fit together.

I agree with your last paragraph.


Im saying its so out of hand now I can understand why they do it. It never should have gotten this far. People seem to only care about Bonds use. If it is that terrible he should be removed from the game completely.

People only seem to care about Bonds's use because it is most obvious. Is SHOULD be removed from the game completely.

it's pretty obvious for alot of players. People only rag on Bonds because he was already a probably Hall of Famer and then got even farther
 
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