Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: pyonir
As of right now it would be foolish to pick anyone but Roy Halladay for the AL Cy Young.
Umm, didn't he get smoked by the Mariners last night? M's hitting is average at best... Cy Young should go to someone on Oakland...
So one game decides if a player deserves the Cy Young huh?
Halladay has a little higher of an ERA than Mulder or Hudson, but he has pitched more innings, less walks than both, more strikeouts than both, his WHIP is better than Mulder although Hudson's is a little better, record is 16-4 while Mulder is 15-8 and Hudson is 11-4, a better K/BB ratio than both, and better K/9 than both.
The race will be close towards the end, but Halladay would get my vote as of now.
Something to note is Halladay is not on a winning team, and just lost to a contender last night... That doesn't really prove to me he's
unanimously worthy of the Cy Young award. Let's face it, if you're not on a winning team you have to SPECTACULAR to win the award. For example, in 2002, Pedro Martinez should have won the Cy Young award STATISTICALLY. He went 20-4 and had 239 SO, 40 walks, 2.26 ERA, only gave up 13 HR's, and 2 complete Games in 199 innings pitched. Barry Zito went 23-5 and had 182 SO, 78 walks, 2.75 ERA, gave up 24 HR's, and 1 complete Game in 228 innings pitched. Clearly Pedro was more dominant, but why did Zito win? Because the A's made the playoffs and he was rewarded for it, whereas Pedro was injured some and his team didn't make the playoffs.
The fact that the Jays are one of the better hitting teams in baseball doesn't help Halladay's case either (Toronto is ranked #2/14 in hitting in the AL!). If you put him on say, the Twins (less run support) would you be confident he would have the same record? Halladay's ERA is NOT impressive at 3.35. Let me name 4 other pitchers that I would vote for before Halladay: 1)Esteban Loaiza: he's 15 and 5, ERA is 2.24, and he's on a playoff contender. He has a 7.38 K/9 innings to Halladay's measly 6.5. Jesus, even John Lackey on the Angels has a higher K/9 at 7.10 and his ERA is 5.34... Furthermore, White Sox are batting 9th/14 in the AL in hitting! 2)Tim Hudsen: he's 11-4 with a 2.51 ERA and on a playoff contender. He's made ONE LESS start than Halladay and is on the A's who are batting 11th in the AL in hitting (there are only 14 teams remember). Add on the fact that he just held the best hitting team in baseball, the Bosox, to 2 hits the other night, beating PEDRO MARTINEZ(who is leading the league in K's over Halladay even though he's started SIX LESS GAMES), and he's clearly got the edge on Halladay RIGHT NOW. 3)Mark Mulder: he's 15-8 with a 2.94 ERA and on playoff contender A's. 4)Mike Mussina is 13-6 with a 3.19 ERA and we all know what team he's on. Plus he has an 8.44 K/9 to 6.5...
All in all, u can only make the argument that Halladay's record of 16 wins is the most in the AL on a great hitting team. It really does not make a strong argument for UNANIMOUS Cy Young RIGHT NOW.