Books that have changed your view on the world...

RichardE

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Anyone have any Books that they have read that have made them reconsider there world view?

Two that I have is

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Discusses Religion and Faith, particularity how some religions can become stunted in social growth and what needs to be done in regards to that.


Ghost Wars

A book that really showed how things are not black and white and things we do now can easily have repercussions 10-20 years down the road.


Anyone else have any?
 

DaveSimmons

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David Drake's Hammers Slammers series. The best fictionalized stories I've read of what it's like to be one of the "boots on the ground" in a war, at least as it was like in Vietnam.

Keith Laumer's Retief series. What diplomacy is really like.
 

MovingTarget

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Ummm....Brief History of Time? Grapes of Wrath? I am America and So Can You?

Seriously, when I do read, it isn't often about political topics, usually scientific topics. When it comes to politics, I get that info off of the internet and from the newspaper.
 

Rockinacoustic

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Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Vonnegut

Cat's Cradle for me :thumbsup:

'Another Roadside Attraction' by Tom Robbins

Some of Nietzsche works are very provocative to me as well.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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A Foreign Policy of Freedom - Ron Paul
The Conscience Of A Conservative - Barry Goldwater
A Glorious Disaster - J. William Middendorf
 

fallout man

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Ernest Becker's The Denial of Death

Yet, at the same time, as the Eastern sages also knew, man is a worm and food for worms. This is the paradox: he is out of nature and hopelessly in it; he is dual, up in the stars and yet housed in a heart-pumping, breath-gasping body that once belonged to a fish and still carries the gill-marks to prove it. His body is a material fleshy casing that is alien to him in many ways?the strangest and most repugnant way being that it aches and bleeds and will decay and die. Man is literally split in two: he has an awareness of his own splendid uniqueness in that he sticks out of nature with a towering majesty, and yet he goes back into the ground a few feet in order blindly and dumbly to rot and disappear forever. It is a terrifying dilemma to be in and to have to live with. The lower animals are, of course, spared this painful contradiction, as they lack a symbolic identity and the self-consciousness that goes with it. They merely act and move reflexively as they are driven by their instincts. If they pause at all, it is only a physical pause; inside they are anonymous, and even their faces have no name. They live in a world without time, pulsating, as it were, in a state of dumb being. This is what has made it so simple to shoot down whole herds of buffalo or elephants. The animals don't know that death is happening and continue grazing placidly while others drop alongside them. The knowledge of death is reflective and conceptual, and animals are spared it. They live and they disappear with the same thoughtlessness: a few minutes of fear, a few seconds of anguish, and it is over. But to live a whole lifetime with the fate of death haunting one's dreams and even the most sun-filled days?that's something else.


Basically, Becker very effectively breaks down how culture, religion, and our entire societal system is a big ruse we use to fool ourselves into believing that we're more than walking-talking bags of meat and shit.

It's a really fascinating read, and personally gave me a whole new perspective on EVERYTHING.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: fallout man
Ernest Becker's The Denial of Death

Yet, at the same time, as the Eastern sages also knew, man is a worm and food for worms. This is the paradox: he is out of nature and hopelessly in it; he is dual, up in the stars and yet housed in a heart-pumping, breath-gasping body that once belonged to a fish and still carries the gill-marks to prove it. His body is a material fleshy casing that is alien to him in many ways?the strangest and most repugnant way being that it aches and bleeds and will decay and die. Man is literally split in two: he has an awareness of his own splendid uniqueness in that he sticks out of nature with a towering majesty, and yet he goes back into the ground a few feet in order blindly and dumbly to rot and disappear forever. It is a terrifying dilemma to be in and to have to live with. The lower animals are, of course, spared this painful contradiction, as they lack a symbolic identity and the self-consciousness that goes with it. They merely act and move reflexively as they are driven by their instincts. If they pause at all, it is only a physical pause; inside they are anonymous, and even their faces have no name. They live in a world without time, pulsating, as it were, in a state of dumb being. This is what has made it so simple to shoot down whole herds of buffalo or elephants. The animals don't know that death is happening and continue grazing placidly while others drop alongside them. The knowledge of death is reflective and conceptual, and animals are spared it. They live and they disappear with the same thoughtlessness: a few minutes of fear, a few seconds of anguish, and it is over. But to live a whole lifetime with the fate of death haunting one's dreams and even the most sun-filled days?that's something else.


Basically, Becker very effectively breaks down how culture, religion, and our entire societal system is a big ruse we use to fool ourselves into believing that we're more than walking-talking bags of meat and shit.

It's a really fascinating read, and personally gave me a whole new perspective on EVERYTHING.

How does he know for sure that animals don't have "to live a whole lifetime with the fate of death" to worry about?
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: fallout man
Ernest Becker's The Denial of Death

Yet, at the same time, as the Eastern sages also knew, man is a worm and food for worms. This is the paradox: he is out of nature and hopelessly in it; he is dual, up in the stars and yet housed in a heart-pumping, breath-gasping body that once belonged to a fish and still carries the gill-marks to prove it. His body is a material fleshy casing that is alien to him in many ways?the strangest and most repugnant way being that it aches and bleeds and will decay and die. Man is literally split in two: he has an awareness of his own splendid uniqueness in that he sticks out of nature with a towering majesty, and yet he goes back into the ground a few feet in order blindly and dumbly to rot and disappear forever. It is a terrifying dilemma to be in and to have to live with. The lower animals are, of course, spared this painful contradiction, as they lack a symbolic identity and the self-consciousness that goes with it. They merely act and move reflexively as they are driven by their instincts. If they pause at all, it is only a physical pause; inside they are anonymous, and even their faces have no name. They live in a world without time, pulsating, as it were, in a state of dumb being. This is what has made it so simple to shoot down whole herds of buffalo or elephants. The animals don't know that death is happening and continue grazing placidly while others drop alongside them. The knowledge of death is reflective and conceptual, and animals are spared it. They live and they disappear with the same thoughtlessness: a few minutes of fear, a few seconds of anguish, and it is over. But to live a whole lifetime with the fate of death haunting one's dreams and even the most sun-filled days?that's something else.


Basically, Becker very effectively breaks down how culture, religion, and our entire societal system is a big ruse we use to fool ourselves into believing that we're more than walking-talking bags of meat and shit.

It's a really fascinating read, and personally gave me a whole new perspective on EVERYTHING.

How does he know for sure that animals don't have "to live a whole lifetime with the fate of death" to worry about?

...because animals aren't self-conscious and able to postulate about the afterlife?
 

Orsorum

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The Christian Bible, A Grief Observed, T S Eliot's Collected Poems (Four Quartets, specifically), Zbigniew Herbert's Collected Poems, Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling.
 
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