boost not working properly on gtx670?

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Lifer
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okay at 70 C its supposed to drop by 13mhz or so. well mine is dropping twice that at 70 C. it goes from 1253mhz to 1241mhz at 69 C then it goes to 1228mhz at 70 C. power target is not the problem as that is only about 110% and I have set to 145%.

EDIT: and this is at 98-99% gpu load so its not dropping because its not being needed.
 
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Gordon Freemen

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okay at 70 C its supposed to drop by 13mhz or so. well mine is dropping twice that at 70 C. it goes from 1253mhz to 1241mhz at 69 C then it goes to 1228mhz at 70 C. power target is not the problem as that is only about 110% and I have set to 145%.
I do not have a 6xx series card but would it not be a plus just to turn off GPU boost all together like I can do with my CPU ?
 

Jaydip

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U can't do that
@Toyota there is no universal law regarding boost unfortunately,it is different on each card.What happens when ur card reaches around 75C?
 
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U can't do that
@Toyota there is no universal law regarding boost unfortunately,it is different on each card.What happens when ur card reaches around 75C?
if you are under load and you hit 70 then its supposed to drop 13mhz and if you hit 80 it will drop another 13mhz. that is how its supposed to work. now if you are not using a lot of the gpu then it can drop at any time and by random amounts but my issue here is that its dropping twice at 70 C even at 98-99% load and that is NOT what it is supposed to do.
 

Jaydip

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The funny thing is it only drops for my 680 starting at 75C not 70C.Have u done anything to voltage yet?
 

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whats pissing me off more is that until today I could keep the fan at 65% at 65C and it would never go over 70 C. now I have to put the fan at 75% to keep it from going over 70 C. and this is the exact same part of Metro 2033 I have tested dozens of times and the temps i my room are no hotter than usual.
 

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whats pissing me off more is that until today I could keep the fan at 65% at 65C and it would never go over 70 C. now I have to put the fan at 75% to keep it from going over 70 C. and this is the exact same part of Metro 2033 I have tested dozens of times and the temps i my room are no hotter than usual.
I was mislead under the impression that the new nvidia GPUs were cool and quite running guess not hey.
 

Don Karnage

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This Boost shenanigans makes me want to stick to my 5xx series or even jump ship back to Ati.

Don't you run a 560? You're not even in the same league as the rest of us. We're in the ocean and you're in the dora the explorer kiddy pool.


whats pissing me off more is that until today I could keep the fan at 65% at 65C and it would never go over 70 C. now I have to put the fan at 75% to keep it from going over 70 C. and this is the exact same part of Metro 2033 I have tested dozens of times and the temps i my room are no hotter than usual.


It more humid today?
 

Jaydip

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whats pissing me off more is that until today I could keep the fan at 65% at 65C and it would never go over 70 C. now I have to put the fan at 75% to keep it from going over 70 C. and this is the exact same part of Metro 2033 I have tested dozens of times and the temps i my room are no hotter than usual.
I keep my fan @ auto and it does a good job keeping it cool.What happens if u keep it @ auto?Does FTW have non reference cooler?
 

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I keep my fan @ auto and it does a good job keeping it cool.What happens if u keep it @ auto?Does FTW have non reference cooler?
if left on auto then it will go to mid to upper 70s in demanding games. the 670 ftw card uses the reference 680 cooler.
 

Don Karnage

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I keep my fan @ auto and it does a good job keeping it cool.What happens if u keep it @ auto?Does FTW have non reference cooler?

With the Vanilla's with auto fan temps are in the mid 70's. With a custom fan profile it never really goes past 65C.

Guys have you swapped out your stock TIM for some MX4 goodness or something along those lines?
 

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if you are under load and you hit 70 then its supposed to drop 13mhz and if you hit 80 it will drop another 13mhz. that is how its supposed to work. now if you are not using a lot of the gpu then it can drop at any time and by random amounts but my issue here is that its dropping twice at 70 C even at 98-99% load and that is NOT what it is supposed to do.

I thought it was just the opposite, when the gpu wasn't fully loaded is when it boosted. Much like Intel's turbo. (I might be wrong, mind you?)
 

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I thought it was just the opposite, when the gpu wasn't fully loaded is when it boosted. Much like Intel's turbo. (I might be wrong, mind you?)
nope. as long as the TDP and certain temps are not exceeded then it will run its highest boost under full load. it would make no sense to run full boost at light loads. once 70 C is reached then the first throttle takes place. again though if it was under light load then it would not even be needing to boost. like in Dead Space 2 with vsync on, it will down clock super low at times and hardly even runs at the base clock. my entire pc only uses 96-120 watts when playing Dead Space 2 on max settings at 1920x1080 with vsync on.

and Intel runs turbo all the time when under full loud if heat and TDP are not a problem.
 
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I just wanted to chip in and say that it makes perfect sense that your secondary GPU was the culprit all along. When you saw your primary GPU at 50 - 70% usage; indicated that it had slowed itself down to match the speed of your (crippled) secondary GPU. Remember, percentages are not absolute figures.

Are you monitoring the speeds of your GPUs as well (memory / core / shader clocks)? May be the secondary GPU down-clocks itself? Even if it shows 99% usage, if it is running at half the speed, it is only giving half the performance.
 

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I just wanted to chip in and say that it makes perfect sense that your secondary GPU was the culprit all along. When you saw your primary GPU at 50 - 70% usage; indicated that it had slowed itself down to match the speed of your (crippled) secondary GPU. Remember, percentages are not absolute figures.

Are you monitoring the speeds of your GPUs as well (memory / core / shader clocks)? May be the secondary GPU down-clocks itself? Even if it shows 99% usage, if it is running at half the speed, it is only giving half the performance.
who are you referring too?
 

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Lifer
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I am really not really a fan of the gpu boost at the moment. I played around in Crysis 2 for a bit and saw some strange behavior there too. starting out the gpu boost was only 1241 when it should have been 1253 since I was at 99% load. it took several minutes to go up to 1253 which was silly since there was no reason for it to be at 1241 in the first under load with vsync off, TDP fine, temps good and full load. when I restarted that level and it did go to 1253 like it was supposed to which makes me wonder what happened the first time. I then started the level yet again but had vsync on this time keeping me from getting full load yet it still went to 1253. lol, that makes no sense and is not consistent at all.

later on in the game my temps hit 70 one time and dropped clocks from 1253 to 1228 which it should not do as it should have only dropped one 12-13mhz notch. well after my temps went back to mid 60s, it went to 1241 and never went back to 1253 for the rest of the level even though temps were fine. its not that I bitching about few dozen mhz, its that I dont like when something does not work like its supposed to.
 
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Jaydip

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I'm not too fond of boost myself.But mine always stay at max boost before reaching 75C.Toyota increase the default voltage a bit.My default was 0.987v and since i have increased that to 1 it is showing more consistent behavior.
 

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I'm not too fond of boost myself.But mine always stay at max boost before reaching 75C.Toyota increase the default voltage a bit.My default was 0.987v and since i have increased that to 1 it is showing more consistent behavior.


you keep talking about voltage but surely you know that every gtx670/680 is locked. idle voltage is .987 and max voltage is 1.175 and those adjust automatically and cannot be raised.
 

Jaydip

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U can,just select the profile "G" from GPU tweak.It sets the default voltage to 1
 

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Lifer
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U can,just select the profile "G" from GPU tweak.It sets the default voltage to 1
why though? that is not going to allow you to clock any higher as it will still go to the voltage it needs to when loaded and still be capped at 1.175.
 

Jaydip

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I don't know,previously without selecting any profile when I raised the clocks it was not getting boosted as per my expectation.Also the card didn't stay at highest boost clock for a long time irrespective of the temperature.After selecting the profile it has become more consistent.I don't have a very good explanation for this but I think if ur default voltage is a bit higher the subsequent boosts are more predictable.
 
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