Borderlands 2 - $25 steam digital download @ Direct2play.com

[Raider1284]

"NOTE: A RUSSIAN IP (VPN) IS REQUESTED THE FIRST TIME TO ACTIVATE THE CD KEY. " how can anyone think this is legitimate and not shady? its very clearly a russian key that is supposed to be sold in russia, not the US. It may work outside of russia once you tweak/hack it, but that doesnt make it legitimate.

How is this any different then pirating the game, other then costing more money?

 

[Hmoobphajej]

It's different from pirating because you still pay money... if people wanted to they can just pirate it, not give them a cent and just play with their friends. I mean who doesn't only play with their friends anyways? At least be happy some people rather pay $25 then tell all their friends to pirate and just play it that way.

 

[TemjinGold]

It's worse than piracy because the people who facilitate this are profiting from it. But believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

 

[styroe]

"NOTE: A RUSSIAN IP (VPN) IS REQUESTED THE FIRST TIME TO ACTIVATE THE CD KEY. " how can anyone think this is legitimate and not shady? its very clearly a russian key that is supposed to be sold in russia, not the US. It may work outside of russia once you tweak/hack it, but that doesnt make it legitimate.

How is this any different then pirating the game, other then costing more money?

Well aside from my issues with the word pirating when it comes to software (pirating in life accounts to murder, rapings, etc) this is America, and where America is, there is a free market, and where there is a free market, I can and should be allowed to buy whatever I want. If it happens to be a russian version of the game, so be it. Nothing illegal here. Unless of course, you aren't in America.

 

[OCNewbie]

It's worse than piracy because the people who facilitate this are profiting from it. But believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Piracey = Gearbox, 2K, etc., doesn't see a penny.

I'm not sure how much GB/2K sells copies of BL2 in the Russian region, but they are still sold for something, so GB is still making something. At least that's the impression I'm under.

 

[Hmoobphajej]

They still make a profit. Just significantly less. They only sell it at a discount price because they believe the economics of the country wouldn't allow users to buy it otherwise. Why not discount it for everyone else too then. I'm sure they'll get even more money that way then to charge some people "full" price and others a discount. That's what results in people looking for the cheaper alternative.

 

[Malz]

It's worse than piracy because the people who facilitate this are profiting from it. But believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

So then by the same line of thinking I pirate when I buy something @ amazon UK because the prices are cheaper than amazon us ?

The keys seem to work in steam I havent been warned (Steam btw is copy protection)

But some of you want to brow beat folk for trying to find a deal (oddly the porpose of this forum).......We try to practice capitaliam here in the us of a and I/we already help the world out by buying medication here (where we front the research AND cost of the medicine ,and the entire rest of the world buys it @ almost cost. Eu/Japan have health care largely because we motherfucking pay our gnp to defend them and keep trade costs down

Theres this new thing in the usa where a few people want everyone to follow there path, think what they think and say what they say, take on thier moral's .....its so anti American in its nature, goes against a free market (that we americans pay to support thank you so very much)

 

[Raider1284]

Well aside from my issues with the word pirating when it comes to software (pirating in life accounts to murder, rapings, etc) this is America, and where America is, there is a free market, and where there is a free market, I can and should be allowed to buy whatever I want. If it happens to be a russian version of the game, so be it. Nothing illegal here. Unless of course, you aren't in America.

im also an american, but being american does not mean that you are allowed to break software laws and buy illegal/illegitimate software keys from another country. This russian version of the game is illegal to be sold everywhere EXCEPT russia.

and how do you all know that the makers of this game are still making a profit? I would severely doubt the developers of this game are seeing a penny of these sales, since this price isnt legitimate.

Just because you are paying for something does not make it legal/legitimate. Someone could throw a $1 price tag for a pirated version of this game, buying that pirated version at $1 does not make it okay.

Just my $.02

 

[styroe]

im also an american, but being american does not mean that you are allowed to break software laws and buy illegal/illegitimate software keys from another country. This russian version of the game is illegal to be sold everywhere EXCEPT russia.

and how do you all know that the makers of this game are still making a profit? I would severely doubt the developers of this game are seeing a penny of these sales, since this price isnt legitimate.

Just because you are paying for something does not make it legal/legitimate. Someone could throw a $1 price tag for a pirated version of this game, buying that pirated version at $1 does not make it okay.

Just my $.02

I understand, but I don't know where the illegality comes in. A legit site with a Russian version asking for a Russian IP to activate. Doesn't say you need to be a Russian citizen or even reside in Russia. Is this product not intended for America. Absolutely. But, conversely, this is free market capitalism at its finest, an American freedom. To deny me the right to buy and use this software is un-American. If they required a Cuban IP, then I could definitely see some issues.

 

[Hmoobphajej]

Actually legality of the cd-keys isn't stated anywhere at all. Not even in the EULA or SAA. The only thing they talk about is the export or profiting of the cd-keys. No where in there from what I read said specifically that it is illegal to buy a cheap multi-region cd-key and use it to play the game. But game companies still have the discretion of whether or not they allow the user access to their contents. At that point let the pirating begin. I don't condone it, but I neither denounce of it.

P.S. These are legitimate cd-keys being sold at legitimate prices... which results in legitimate profits for the companies. They just don't see as much profit as if I was to buy the US retail version. But to say they don't profit... smh. What company would allow such ridiculous business practices as to not profit.

 

[mleejr]

which results in legitimate profits for the companies. They just don't see as much profit...

Replace the word 'profit' with 'revenue'. We can not deduce the amount, if any, of profit the company makes without it releasing the numbers.

 

[Malz]

Replace the word 'profit' with 'revenue'. We can not deduce the amount, if any, of profit the company makes without it releasing the numbers.

Yea its all some wild hair up the ass guesstimate , heres the thing though thats not what this section of the forums is for.

We are here to look out for each other and get the best deal possible if you consider it shady fine you do , but by all means say it just your opinion . Some people in this thread while expressing thier FEELINGS and not FACTS got me kinda scared that I was getting ripped off by direct2play , but no instead they where afraid that the developer was getting ripped off.

Thats not really cool to impose your morals on anyone and state that something is a fact thats just the way you feel.

Im sure people like totaly justified saying its illeagal but that would be steams problem If steam said what these posters are saying then it would be real

Theres no reason to scare anyone off a good deal unless you know better (and from now on cite your facts with a handy link after this crap)