Borderlands 2 release date and preorder

[Brisya]

Hey guys,

I've got a question about the assassin:
Do weapons, which give you for example a 50 % melee damage bonus, effect the damage you deal while attacking in Deception or with Execute?

 

[cytoSiN]

Hey guys,

I've got a question about the assassin:
Do weapons, which give you for example a 50 % melee damage bonus, effect the damage you deal while attacking in Deception or with Execute?

They should. Deception and Execute use your base melee damage, and then multiply by whatever the appropriate modifier is. If you increase the base melee damage, you should increase Deception and Execute melee as well.

 

[Brisya]

cytoSiN, that sound good! thank you!

 

[Aikouka]

In case everyone didn't know, the guns that have that triple barrel will shoot fully auto at an accelerating rate. You can single fire easily, but if you hold down the trigger it will shoot faster and faster. It will vaporize anything up close.

Hmm... I think I keep pushing the left mouse button each time. I really ought to give my poor mouse a break then!

 

[zinfamous]

I really need to stay out of this thread. Getting the Borderlands itch pretty bad....but I have several problems right now:

1. Time
2. $$
3. GW2.

 

[Aikouka]

Gearbox released patch 1.02 today, but it doesn't list any quest fixes. The forums only list...

• Fixed issue with trading negative credit values.
• Fixed issue regarding pre-order incentives.
• Fixed issue regarding connectivity problems involving routers with restricted Firewall UDP settings.

Maybe that's just not an all inclusive list?

I really need to stay out of this thread. Getting the Borderlands itch pretty bad....

You know you want to farm guns like crazy again!

 

[zinfamous]

You know you want to farm guns like crazy again!

Quiet, you! You are a terrible influence!

 

[vshah]

Quiet, you! You are a terrible influence!

get it from the greymarket deal for $26! that's 3 lunches!

 

[OCNewbie]

I tested it out on a random mob and I got 7.5 seconds with +2 seconds from talents. So, 5.5 seconds unmodified. That seems oddly nonuniform, so let me try it a few more times.

EDIT:

That's not correct. I was not timing it properly as I was starting it as soon as I hit F which added some extra time. It appears to be 7 seconds or 5 seconds unmodified. However, there also appears to be reduced durations. I recorded numerous times where I only had a 5 second duration, so I spent a little more time looking at that. There appears to be diminishing returns on casting Phaselock on the same enemy in tandem. I'm not sure what the cooldown period is in between to return to full duration, but I saw my duration drop to 4 seconds modified when phaselocking the same Bullymong two times in a row.

Thanks! I made a Siren, and she's like lvl 8 or 9 now, so I'm getting to play around with it myself

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

So, are orange level drops now beyond rare? I'm level 43, and haven't seen one save for the quest shield.

 

[KaOTiK]

I got 3 orange drops so far and I'm level 38.

 

[OCNewbie]

In BL1, I used to, albeit quite rarely, see orange weapons for sale as the Deal of the Day. I haven't seen that yet. Has anybody else come across an orange weapon for sale in the machines as the DotD?

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

Well, finally got one. A shotgun that flies and fires by itself when reloaded. Too bad it's damage is too low for it to matter much.

There's something off about this game compared to the first. Might be the way elemental immunities make your 4 weapon slots feel even more limited then the first game. Might be the way half of all battle are ambushes, or how many mobs have shielded weak spots. Not quite sure.

I'm thinking Zero is probably not the best character though. He's a better sniper then Mordecai was, due to the bullet speed skills, but there's just not much sniping to be done since most encounters take place at close range.

 

[KaOTiK]

I really wish they would allow you to continue to expand your inventory at the least even at 20 eridium per 3 slots. Or at least something to do with eridium. I have all the stuff on the black market unlocked and have 99 of it and it drops a lot still. Hell, it would be cool to trade say 10 in to moxxi for a random weapon or just be able to vendor it. Probably during one of the expansions they will have another use for it, but only having limited use and only being able to keep 99 on you at all times, bah.

 

[Aikouka]

Ugh, Varkids have to be the worst new enemy in this game. They're just such a joke that I was actively coaxing a Badass Varkid to morph again because I was bored. :| I just run around using melee to kill the little dudes.

EDIT:

Of course, it probably doesn't help that I'm 3-5 levels above everything in the caustic caverns right now.

 

[cytoSiN]

...there's just not much sniping to be done since most encounters take place at close range.

Whatyoutalkinabout?

 

[TheKub]

Whatyoutalkinabout?

I would tend to concur. Im currently running a Gunzerker and I spend 70% of my time with a sniper rifle.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

How far are you in the game? Snipers were neccessary until around 10, simply because you don't have the skills to make up for the inaccuracy of other weapons.


Beyond that, I'm constantly getting hit with things spawning around me. Threshers, Ants, everything. Even bandits are doing the 'steps out of the building thing', and then there are the bots which don't drop until you walk into their area. Plus the boss areas are tight enclosed spaces.

There are certainly times when you can shoot something from long range, but times where I have to pull out the shotgun instead outnumber it significantly.

 

[BergeLSU]

Finished playthrough 1 completely solo as a Cataclysm Siren. That final skill is a gamebreaker. Slag, Corrosive, Electric, and Fire damage?

Joined a game for 30 minutes in PT2 and damn is it hard, but having 3+ Sirens allows you to stunlock pretty much anything.

 

[TheKub]

How far are you in the game? Snipers were neccessary until around 10, simply because you don't have the skills to make up for the inaccuracy of other weapons.


Beyond that, I'm constantly getting hit with things spawning around me. Threshers, Ants, everything. Even bandits are doing the 'steps out of the building thing', and then there are the bots which don't drop until you walk into their area. Plus the boss areas are tight enclosed spaces.

There are certainly times when you can shoot something from long range, but times where I have to pull out the shotgun instead outnumber it significantly.

Im ~lvl 22 now. Yeah some of the insect mobs do pop out of nowhere but at least with the way I play (move slow and observe) Im dont frequently have to resort to close quarters combat. In a lot of cases if the mob has ANY sort of ranged attack they wont follow you very far that lets you retreat a bit when they spawn and headshot them from a medium distance.

In particular with the robots that drop they dont get "ready" for 5-10 seconds thats plenty of time to get some space. So far I think the rat people have been the worst for closing gaps and swarming you in close proximity. I handle that with a sigularity grenade or two.

Dont get me wrong I use SMGs, ARs, and shotguns when the need arises its just that I have more "play" time with the sniper than the other types combined.

 

[bguile]

Ugh, Varkids have to be the worst new enemy in this game. They're just such a joke that I was actively coaxing a Badass Varkid to morph again because I was bored. :| I just run around using melee to kill the little dudes.

EDIT:

Of course, it probably doesn't help that I'm 3-5 levels above everything in the caustic caverns right now.

Really? They annoy me quite a bit. I always get swarmed by them.

Now those crystalisk things...They are super easy.

 

[nyker96]

Quiet, you! You are a terrible influence!

you know you want it and can't resist it! ... join the dark side ... you won't regret it!

 

[Aikouka]

Really? They annoy me quite a bit. I always get swarmed by them.

Well, in all fairness, I out-leveled them by a modest amount. I'm currently level 20, and they were between level 15 and 17. The larvae have never been a problem though. Since I had a huge disparity between the level, I just ran around using melee with a bladed weapon (worked on that badass achievement). :awe:

Now those crystalisk things...They are super easy.

You know what's funny? Even though they were still only 15-17, they were the only thing to take down my shield. I don't know what it is about them, but they can really damage me if I'm not careful. :$ I was having fun with them too. I meleed a few of them to death by smacking their legs!

One thing I find really odd is just how much damage their legs can take before finally breaking apart. I pretty much have to use my DAHL burst-fire sniper rifle. Although, I did get a new single-shot sniper rifle with 2x the damage over my DAHL from the slot machine that also has bonus critical damage!

 

[cytoSiN]

How far are you in the game? Snipers were neccessary until around 10, simply because you don't have the skills to make up for the inaccuracy of other weapons.


Beyond that, I'm constantly getting hit with things spawning around me. Threshers, Ants, everything. Even bandits are doing the 'steps out of the building thing', and then there are the bots which don't drop until you walk into their area. Plus the boss areas are tight enclosed spaces.

There are certainly times when you can shoot something from long range, but times where I have to pull out the shotgun instead outnumber it significantly.

No disrespect, but I'm still not sure what you're talking about. I'm level 24 with Zer0 and all my points are in the sniper tree. I carry 4 weapons; three snipers (fire, acid, shock) and a pistol (obviously have others in bag).

As far as "inaccuracy of other weapons," I don't get that either. My pistol has 95.7 accuracy without a scope...

As far as things spawning around you, if you can't melee your way out, pop Deception, run away a little, turn and snipe before it wears off for the damage boost.

And as far as boss areas being in "enclosed spaces," while sometimes true, Deception is your friend, and you don't always have to use the scope to blow shit up.

It sounds like you don't like the sniper play style, but it works very well for me in this game so far. Keep in mind that you don't always have to be long range for sniping to be effective, you just have to have good aim. Zer0's sniping tree is based off of the B0re talent, which shows you crit areas while in Deception in addition to allowing your shots to penetrate enemies (and get stronger with each successive penetration). It's a life saver, especially on bosses and when fighting crowds of closely packed enemies.

 

[TheKub]

You know what's funny? Even though they were still only 15-17, they were the only thing to take down my shield. I don't know what it is about them, but they can really damage me if I'm not careful.

They are really great for getting your weapon critical hit counts for challenges\badass because of the huge slow moving crit points. As for the damage you get, I cant confirm it and maybe its just all the Physx junk flying everywhere but I could swear that there is what looks like bullets flying off of them when I am point blank unloading an SMG on them I think its possible that they may have some sort of reflect on them?

Suppose a test would be compare the damage they do to you when you are just standing there vs unloading on them.