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Hopeless

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My legendary combustion SMG was the best weapon the game from what I have seen. I had a similar sniper. They both do x4 fire damage. I could just roll through anybody with my soldier mods.

I've got a mid 20s Combustion Bitch SMG that I've held onto, but haven't really got around to trying it out yet. Yeah I'm still lovin my lvl 25 Fearsome Volcano. I've gotten pretty hooked on using the support gunner mods for the ammo regen and my current also has +% mag size which helps also.
 

Hopeless

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If I'm understanding elem dmg right so far it's:
Electric - Best against shields
Fire - Best against flesh
Acid - Best against heavy armored foe
Explosive - ??

What or how does the X? come into play?
 

BoberFett

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The X is the chance of the elemental effect happening. So X1 is least likely, X4 is most likely chance of burning/corroding/shocking/exploding.
 

Hopeless

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Gave my 20s lvl Combustion SMG a chance the other night. I was holding off on it becase my skill lvl with SMG was 6 but my CR skill lvl is in the mid 20s. Also the dmg on it shows as >40, but holy crap was I surprised. Went ahead and dropped the 1/4 mil on the ammo storage upgrade as I'll probably be using this thing as my main for awhile.
 

digiram

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So, does anyone have a high level purple shattering mauler? I would like to dupe it, if you do and are playing on Xbox 360, let me know. I have a pretty badass lvl 40+ purple double anarchy...I never used an smg till I ran into that thing.
 

PimpJuice

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Gave my 20s lvl Combustion SMG a chance the other night. I was holding off on it becase my skill lvl with SMG was 6 but my CR skill lvl is in the mid 20s. Also the dmg on it shows as >40, but holy crap was I surprised. Went ahead and dropped the 1/4 mil on the ammo storage upgrade as I'll probably be using this thing as my main for awhile.

nice That gun is bad ass. The one I have is a level 47(?) with 80-90 damage and 12.5 firerate. It mows people down. Enjoy!
 

BoberFett

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I got a pair of SMGs (gave one away) called Saviors. One was orange, the other was white. Not the low end white, but the one above orange. I'd have to check back on the exact stats but it's like 90x 2 damage with a +50% reload speed and +15 ammo regen. I pair that with purple combustion SMG with a high fire rate. Switching back and forth, I tore through zombies like you wouldn't believe. I never run out of ammo and the fire shreds enemies.
 

Hopeless

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I got a pair of SMGs (gave one away) called Saviors. One was orange, the other was white. Not the low end white, but the one above orange. I'd have to check back on the exact stats but it's like 90x 2 damage with a +50% reload speed and +15 ammo regen. I pair that with purple combustion SMG with a high fire rate. Switching back and forth, I tore through zombies like you wouldn't believe. I never run out of ammo and the fire shreds enemies.

The Combustion Bitch SMG that I have is dark orange. They come in purple too?
 

BoberFett

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I don't remember exactly what it is. I'll have to log in tonight and snap some pictures of my favorite weapons.
 

Hopeless

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About 1/2 way to lvl 44 and about to leave Fyrestone finally.

I was using the Orange Com Bi SMG that I mentioned earlier (39 Dmg, 90+ Acc, 10+ refire and a 3+ scope). Just got a Orange/Yellow Combustion Hellfire with 80 dmg, a couple points less acc but still 90+, refire is real close and still 10+ and has 3+ scope. For some reason when both are in my inventory it still puts the Com Bi above the Com Hel.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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The X is the chance of the elemental effect happening. So X1 is least likely, X4 is most likely chance of burning/corroding/shocking/exploding.

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but it also seems like the X affects the magnitude of the effect. I've used 1x combustion weapons and see some flames coming off my target, then I compare this with a 4x weapons and the effect is a freaking fireball. I concede that this may be entirely visual and not actually increase damage output, though.

Anyone know if the Siren's talents can increase the effective elemental chance above 4x?
 

ivan2

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i like the CR Cobra combat rifle a lot, 3 shot burst that is deadly accurate, fast reload. but so far the ones i find are all without elemental damage, anyone know if they have a step up version with elemental damage?
 

Hopeless

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i like the CR Cobra combat rifle a lot, 3 shot burst that is deadly accurate, fast reload. but so far the ones i find are all without elemental damage, anyone know if they have a step up version with elemental damage?

I didn't really pay attn to elem dmg weapons in the beginning just mainly focused on dmg, acc, refire and if it had a scope. Now that I have started watching for them, I haven't really noticed any CRs with it. With all the other gun types having versions with elem dmg I would think that there are some CRs that do too.

For Roland I gave up on the burst fire CR a while back. They reload quicker, but with the small clip size even with skills/class mods I was reloading more often than with either full auto CR or SMG. To me it seemed that the higher dmg listed is partially negated by the lack of real refire ability, which really shows when using the metal storm skill.

There are some pretty accurate full auto CR around. Although the reload time can be a real pain, having a massive clip kinda offsets it some. The full auto CR that I'm still carrying (stored for now as I'm using the SMG mentioned above) is a lvl 19 purple. Low 90s dmg, mid 90s acc, close to 9 refire. It also has a scope (can't remember zoom) along with 82 rnd mag, with skills & current class mod goes to 150+ rnds. I had a couple of orange/yellow CR rifles that did 5 shot bursts instead of 3 as one of the perks, but I ended up selling both as I was actually killing things faster with the purple CR even though they had a higher dmg rating.
 
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JoPh

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well....

i just joined a public game for the first time in hopes to power level my siren and what do i found...

hacked weapons have made it to xbox 360..

be on the look out. i picked two of them up but i cant use them. ill prolly just sell them now.

sigh.. this is going to turn into a diablo mess.
 

gorcorps

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well....

i just joined a public game for the first time in hopes to power level my siren and what do i found...

hacked weapons have made it to xbox 360..

be on the look out. i picked two of them up but i cant use them. ill prolly just sell them now.

sigh.. this is going to turn into a diablo mess.

That's been going on for a while. I'm not sure how it happened but it seems like the truly 'hardcore' folk all have uber weapons.
 

JoPh

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That's been going on for a while. I'm not sure how it happened but it seems like the truly 'hardcore' folk all have uber weapons.

from what i read the people have the device that hooks the xbox up to their pc and hex edit the character save file and save thus they altered the stats on the guns and then it so easy to dupe the guns it just went on from there.


i decieded to sell the guns. not even worth much than take any kind of risk.
so i am guessing i am just staying out of public games now. even though a 4 player game on second playthough is great
 

Hopeless

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i just joined a public game for the first time in hopes to power level my siren.

so i am guessing i am just staying out of public games now. even though a 4 player game on second playthough is great

I'm lvl 45 & just hit New Haven on playthrough 2 with Roland. If you have one close to that lvl & want to teamup or if you are just wanted to powerlevel one of your low level ones send me msg.
 

JoPh

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I'm lvl 45 & just hit New Haven on playthrough 2 with Roland. If you have one close to that lvl & want to teamup or if you are just wanted to powerlevel one of your low level ones send me msg.

i think my siren is around level 35 on playthrough 2. i already have a lvl 50 soldier. but everything is to easy with him right now. so i figure ill try the siren out. im just trying to get her to level 40 ish...

i was power level last night on the decent level and snow level.. great experiance there in a 4 player game on playthough 2. lol.


dunno if i really like her though.. i need to respec some more and find if i acutally like the class.. phasewalking is kinda boring i think.
 

JoPh

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noob question, is there a storage in the game? where do you put your extra guns?

then again... how do you respec?

U respec at the newme stations.. or what ever they are called..


your storage is your backpack. thats it.
u eventually get more space and can hold 40+ items.
 

Hopeless

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noob question, is there a storage in the game? where do you put your extra guns?

then again... how do you respec?

The only storage is your backpack. You need to keep an eye out for claptraps that are lying on the ground flopping around, they give a quest to fix them. When you fix it the reward is a storage upgrade module that you have to go into your inventory and use, but will give you 3 more slots in your backpack.

To respec go to a new u station. It will allow you to change some colors of you char for free and respec for a cost. They are on some of the poles that glow green when you get close. If I remember right there is one in Fyrestone next to the Dr.
 

JoPh

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next batch of dlc has been annouced. seems like they are adding a new game more.. seems like horde/firefight


seems interesting.
 

tw1164

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next batch of dlc has been annouced. seems like they are adding a new game more.. seems like horde/firefight


seems interesting.
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/12/10/borderlands-second-dlc-pack-officially-revealed/

Just completed a lightning round phone interview with Gearbox regarding the next DLC pack of "Borderlands," entitled "Mad Moxxi’s Underdome Riot." The initial press release mentioned a focus on arena-based play, and, based on the few arena quests that were in the original release, I didn't think that sounded tremendously interesting. Gearbox's Jon Hemingway, the designer on the next DLC pack, was happy to clarify just what we can expect.

I started off by mentioning the arena quests from the first game, and Hemingway was quick to correct me:

"This is totally different...basically the idea is that we have this character, Moxxi. She's running this underground coliseum tournament arena thing. The best thing you could compare it to is either Horde mode in 'Gears of War 2' or Firefight mode in 'ODST.' But even those don't quite sum it up.

"It's all about this crazy Moxxi character, and she's running these tournaments. You go in and fight waves and rounds of monsters, and then she starts changing it all up. She throws out what are called 'Moxxi Maxims,' these rules that dramatically change the way the game play. She'll be like, 'Vampire Rule!' which makes it so that the player's health is constantly draining, but every time you get a kill you get a whole bunch of health back. Now all the players are like, 'Holy crap, I have to play amazingly aggressive,' so you have to charge in before you basically bleed out. Another example, she'll go 'Shotgun Challenge,' where all shotguns do bonus damage and all other guns take a penalty."

The comparisons to "Firefight" seem pretty apt, but in terms of the scale and length, it seems like these battles will go considerably longer. Regarding the play time:

"There's a small tournament and a big tournament. The small tournament takes probably about an hour, and most people will be able to get through that. The big tournament...one of the things people have been asking for is for something that challenges them, and that's what the big tournament is. I think the last time I went through it, it took me six hours to get through a big tournament. You can't save your progress, you have to do it in one sitting, but you can stop, walk away from it and come back [Ed note: You just can't turn the system off]. It's really hardcore. To get through the big tournament, you'll have to get some friends who are very good and you'll all have to plan out what people are going to do and what weapons you're bringing."

The complaints that "Borderlands" may have been too easy will probably be put to rest once people spend an entire Saturday trying to complete one of these big tournaments. Hardcore indeed.

Oh, and while we're at it, here's official, unedited pitch from Gearbox's Randy Pitchford:

This is an ENTIRELY NEW GAME MODE.
Think ODST's "Firefight" or Gears of War's "Horde Mode".
Cash, prizes and competition!
It's like Smash TV in coop FPS, but in the Borderlands.

This DLC expands greatly on the possibilities of combat as well adding a ton of new rules such as vampire mode or low gravity mode etc. This is not just deathmatch arenas [sic].

These are not just new deathmatch areas.

Yes, he said that twice. His rabid enthusiasm even comes through in email form.

A six hours is a large block of time for me to play games (I have little kids). I'll be up till 2am that night!
 

JoPh

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that sounds even better than what i read.. seems like i will be getting that also.
 
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