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JoPh

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i think the white text is a bug from the amount of random weapon generators.. i think i read that on the borderland forums.
 

Hopeless

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if you have stat u really dont need aid station. to me that is just a waste of 5 points. or just use aid station and not stat.

Grit isn't that great either. Stat is pretty good but when playing in a group having a second heal source comes in pretty handy.
 

JoPh

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Grit isn't that great either. Stat is pretty good but when playing in a group having a second heal source comes in pretty handy.

i agree. grit is worthless. for party healing just need to put 1 point into cauterize. use the shotgun at point black = instant heal.

i mean i guess u could skip stat and use the 5 points or so to beef up the turrent. depends on play style. i will have to respec and try just using 1 point into stat and see how that works.
 

Hopeless

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i agree. grit is worthless. for party healing just need to put 1 point into cauterize. use the shotgun at point black = instant heal.

i mean i guess u could skip stat and use the 5 points or so to beef up the turrent. depends on play style. i will have to respec and try just using 1 point into stat and see how that works.

The main reason I tried aid station was I was looking for something else to put points into instead of grit, as I really don't care for it and you gotta use 15 pts to unlock stat.

So far I'm going more for a good solo & coop build. Cauterize is only good for coop so it's basically lost point(s) in solo play. Where as aid station works for both. Although from some of the open games I've joined it seems some people just assume that since you're a soldier that you have cauterize as they jump right in my line of fire as I'm trying to kill an enemy.

I really do like stat & thanks for the heads on on it, I'd completly over looked it. My guns are good but not great. When playing in a group others are killing the enemy as well which means no heal. That's why I'm starting to like aid station because if that happens I can just toss out the turrent and start healing. Also from what I've noticed the heal rate stacks with stat so if both are running my health bar really flies filling back up.

As I get some better gear I may change it up some more, my main smg is a hellfire but it's only lvl 34, but so far the build is working pretty well. The other night I found a real good support gunner mod from the vendor that I bought. Has +20 ammo regen, +4 impact, +3 barrage, +39% team mag size.
 
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Hopeless

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Decided to take a break from the soldier & start working on the hunter. Made it to lvl 11 last night and starting to like him so far. I've kinda got an idea of a build I'm looking at trying as I lvl up. I'd ask for opinions but I'm at work and can't remember the skill names off the top of my head.
 

digiram

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Tried playing mad moxxi again last night, and I'm not really feeling it. Pretty dissapointed.

Decided to finish my second playthrough though as I hear that all the good loot is in the 3rd playthrough... Can't wait to get that started.
 

Hopeless

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Tried playing mad moxxi again last night, and I'm not really feeling it. Pretty dissapointed.

Decided to finish my second playthrough though as I hear that all the good loot is in the 3rd playthrough... Can't wait to get that started.

After you finish your 2nd round it doesn't reset for a 3rd playthrough. It's just that all the enemy's ramp up around lvl 50 & any side quests you didn't finish can be still be done. Also all items that you get or can buy will be lvl 48ish.
 

digiram

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After you finish your 2nd round it doesn't reset for a 3rd playthrough. It's just that all the enemy's ramp up around lvl 50 & any side quests you didn't finish can be still be done. Also all items that you get or can buy will be lvl 48ish.

Really..Damn. I read on the interview that GI did with Gearbox, and they said that all the good stuff is on the 3rd playthrough. What's up with that?

I've done, all of the side quests on my second playthrough pretty much though. Just gotta do the last one. Damn........back to mw2 I guess.

Oh ya...finally found an upgrade to my shattering mauler...purple lvl 48 Steele Mauler. Love this gun Double Anarchy, Liquid Penetrator, and Liquid Thunder.

What's everyone else's fav guns?
 

Hopeless

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Oh ya...finally found an upgrade to my shattering mauler...purple lvl 48 Steele Mauler. Love this gun Double Anarchy, Liquid Penetrator, and Liquid Thunder.

What's everyone else's fav guns?

After awhile I quit getting any good combat rifles. The only yellow/orange that I've gotten were the burst fire kind, which I don't care for. I ended up switching over to smg.

Lvl 34 Combustion Hellfire - 12+ refire & has a scope. Wish I could find a higer lvl version of it.

Lvl 4? Malevolent Bitch - Use against fire resistant enemy. 12+ refire, scope and higher bullet dmg than my hellfire.

Volcano sniper rifles, I've had a few different versions.
 

Kabob

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I'm contemplating picking this game up, question though. To play over XBLA do you have to be friends or is there some sort of matchmaking lobby where you can join others randomly?

I've heard it's alot better in a group but I only have one person on my friends list (hopeless) who has it.
 

JoPh

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I'm contemplating picking this game up, question though. To play over XBLA do you have to be friends or is there some sort of matchmaking lobby where you can join others randomly?

I've heard it's alot better in a group but I only have one person on my friends list (hopeless) who has it.

u can search for games and join.
 

Hopeless

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I'm contemplating picking this game up, question though. To play over XBLA do you have to be friends or is there some sort of matchmaking lobby where you can join others randomly?

I've heard it's alot better in a group but I only have one person on my friends list (hopeless) who has it.

You can just join a random game or you can have it show a list of games and pick one to join. At times it's fun solo, but in a good group using at least a few different classes it gets better.

Our old racing bud CK has it also and I've played with him off & on.

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It's a pretty fun game. If you end up picking it up give me shout & we can team up. Got Lvl 50 Soldier, Lvl 16 Hunter (starting to work on him), and the other two classes around lvl 6-7 just for thier achievements.
 
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JoPh

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he looks fine. from what i can tell you dont want to use his pet at all.

from what i can tell you a fully level birds is crazy. but on the other hand with a good sniper rifle and sniper stuff max you can do massive damage per shot.

just depends on your play style. but overall what u have is fine.
 

JoPh

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actually now that im looking it over again i see some questions...


u maxed loaded ---- but your tree seems to focus on pistols/revovlers... why max this out? ull never use a sniper.. if u need 5 points in the tree smirk may be better.

seeing that u have no health regen(i love health regen) u might want to toy around with reducing gun crazy and putting points in remedy or out for blood..

i
 

mizzou

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whats a good loadout for 2 player coopo nly?

wife and i play as 2 soldiers, and I'm focusing more on being the medic with her focusing more on the damage part.

Both at level 14 now, but i do have a level 14 hunter that I use for solo play.

I'm thinking having a tank would be nice, but 2 soldiers, we do OK when getting beat up on by stuff since we kick rear end w/ rifles and SMGs, but i could see where heavy ranged combat woudl be nice (hunter insta-kill) or when youw ant someone to take all the damage (tank)

Im thinking medic soldier + tank would be a good 2 player setup, but it would be minimally effective in ranged combat
 

Kabob

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Well, I actually borrowed Borderlands from a guy, you gonna help me get started sometime Hopeles?
 

Hopeless

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actually now that im looking it over again i see some questions...


u maxed loaded ---- but your tree seems to focus on pistols/revovlers... why max this out? ull never use a sniper.. if u need 5 points in the tree smirk may be better.

seeing that u have no health regen(i love health regen) u might want to toy around with reducing gun crazy and putting points in remedy or out for blood..

I maxed loaded because I'm planing on sniper from distance pistol when close. Some sniper rifles have an extremely small clip, but I may split those pts up between loaded & the one the adds dmg to sniper rifles. The lvl 4 skill sounds too good not to try.

Once again I didn't notice the lack of HP regen. I'll be putting some pts in remedy instead of uping bloodwing's dmg.

Thanks for the input.
 

Hopeless

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whats a good loadout for 2 player coopo nly?

wife and i play as 2 soldiers, and I'm focusing more on being the medic with her focusing more on the damage part.

Both at level 14 now, but i do have a level 14 hunter that I use for solo play.

I'm thinking having a tank would be nice, but 2 soldiers, we do OK when getting beat up on by stuff since we kick rear end w/ rifles and SMGs, but i could see where heavy ranged combat woudl be nice (hunter insta-kill) or when youw ant someone to take all the damage (tank)

Im thinking medic soldier + tank would be a good 2 player setup, but it would be minimally effective in ranged combat

Two soldiers can make a pretty good team. I like support gunner for the ammo regen, which works for everyone.

This is my current that I came up with trying to go for solo & coop use. Roland

Having 2 soldiers using stat - doesn't matter who gets the kill, you both get HP.

I like aid station but if you wanted since you are coop only would be to rob a some pts & put into cauterize.
 

Hopeless

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Well, I actually borrowed Borderlands from a guy, you gonna help me get started sometime Hopeles?

You betcha. I didn't get a chance to play last night, but I should be on this evening. Did you give it a whirl yet?
 

Kabob

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You betcha. I didn't get a chance to play last night, but I should be on this evening. Did you give it a whirl yet?

Well, I played for maybe 30 mins last night and maybe an hour and a half before work. I didn't know what class to start so I went with the soldier guy (Roland is it?). Got to lvl 11 right before I had to get ready for work.

Did maybe 10-12 quests including finding the seeds and the guys leg in the Skag area, getting the car and jumping the ravine, etc. The hardest one I did was getting the component to use the car guy's thing, I was only lvl 7 and had REALLY crappy weapons and I was fighting lvl 10-11 mercenaries. They killed me once and the next life they got me down to 12 health. Does the soldier really suck with the sniper rifle or something? Seems like I can aim right at a guy and miss...

So far it's alot of fun, if I like it enough I'll have to buy it. It's fun by myself, I bet it's a blast with a group.

Question, at the later levels does one class dominate the other three? Is there a specific way I need to set up my skill points for survival? I keep forgetting to use the turret, I think I've deployed it maybe twice. I think I have 2 skill points left to use and I saw where I can reset all my points for a few $$'s.
 

JoPh

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ill repost again since there seems to a new interest for soldiers

i would max these

impact
sentry
metal storm
defense
fitness
overload
stat
grit(u need to get to stat)
i would only put 1 skill into grenade. thats all u really need to regen grenades.
and 1 point into quick recharge
put the rest into barrage



just tweak it from there.... my guy at level 50 is pretty unstoppable.


i have having the most success with a level 5 explosive addon for the sentry and use a +team ammo regen class mod.
 

Kabob

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You'd max them in that order or do I need to spread things out over time? I'm not sure if there's a level limit for certain skills and such or how others are unlocked (I only have the first row unlocked).

Also, is the soldier only proficient with shotguns and assault rifles or can he use the others well? Is the machine gun considered a rifle or is it a separate entity?
 

Hopeless

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Well, I played for maybe 30 mins last night and maybe an hour and a half before work. I didn't know what class to start so I went with the soldier guy (Roland is it?). Got to lvl 11 right before I had to get ready for work.

Did maybe 10-12 quests including finding the seeds and the guys leg in the Skag area, getting the car and jumping the ravine, etc. The hardest one I did was getting the component to use the car guy's thing, I was only lvl 7 and had REALLY crappy weapons and I was fighting lvl 10-11 mercenaries. They killed me once and the next life they got me down to 12 health. Does the soldier really suck with the sniper rifle or something? Seems like I can aim right at a guy and miss...

So far it's alot of fun, if I like it enough I'll have to buy it. It's fun by myself, I bet it's a blast with a group.

Question, at the later levels does one class dominate the other three? Is there a specific way I need to set up my skill points for survival? I keep forgetting to use the turret, I think I've deployed it maybe twice. I think I have 2 skill points left to use and I saw where I can reset all my points for a few $$'s.

Roland was my first char & it took me a bit to remember to use the dang turrent also. It can be a life saver, more so at low levels depending on how lucky you are with drops. Bonehead is a pretty tough fight, I think he alone is around lvl 11 the first time around & I died the first time I fought him.

I used snipers with Roland but the sway can be annoying. After playing the hunter a little, I really notice it when going back to him. It seems that the hunter at start doesn't have quite as much sway & has a skill to reduce it.

From what I've read & from others. It's not really like Diablo, as there isn't a really uber build for anyone. Mostly it comes down to how you like to play & of course how lucky you are with the loot. I've spent a few $ doing respecs, which I'm really glad they allow.

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Here is how I've got him spec'd so far Roland. I have some good gear but not great so I may do some changes with better gear.
 
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