Bose, Monster, Johnny Walker...

[herm0016]

sony has gotten much of their rep from their commercial product line which is second to none, some of the best equipment in the world. shurfire stuff is not over rated, and really not over priced for the quality.

 

[mharr7]

Originally posted by: MrChad
Sony's certainly had an overrated reputation from the 80s. That has faded in the last 10 years.

Apple is a bit of an overrated brand, although I think that their products are generally high-quality.

Oreck vacuums?

whats wrong with oreck? works better than any other vacuum ive ever used...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
For flashlights and illumination products, Surefire. More expensive than everything else in the market.

Some people say they're worth it though.

Surefire isn't overrated.

If you want to say they are overpriced, then maybe. I wouldn't say so though, because they have the warranty and quality behind them. I will say you can get cheaper flashlights that put out as much in terms of lumens. The difference though, is in quality. I'd put my Surefire's up against a Fenix (or any other brand for that matter) any day.

Have you ever owned a Surefire?

I carry a Surefire G2 LED every day and have a X300 mounted to my HK45 pistol so... yeah lol

 

[Howard]

Grey Goose
Wilson Audio

 

[yours truly]

Every Bosch appliance I've bought has broken down

- and I don't really rate Samsung or LG either

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
For flashlights and illumination products, Surefire. More expensive than everything else in the market.

Some people say they're worth it though.

Surefire isn't overrated.

If you want to say they are overpriced, then maybe. I wouldn't say so though, because they have the warranty and quality behind them. I will say you can get cheaper flashlights that put out as much in terms of lumens. The difference though, is in quality. I'd put my Surefire's up against a Fenix (or any other brand for that matter) any day.

Have you ever owned a Surefire?

I carry a Surefire G2 LED every day and have a X300 mounted to my HK45 pistol so... yeah lol

HK is another brand many people would consider overpriced. Though they're not really overrated. They are in fact good guns, they're just more expensive than they really ought to be.

 

[erwos]

Monster is overpriced, but their cables are generally of excellent quality. Not sure I'd toss them in the same bucket as Bose, who makes overpriced and awful sound systems.

 

[Tiamat]

Bose: (high price, low quality, but "usability")
Monster: (high price, normal quality)
Wilson: (ultra high price, M-shaped sound quality)
Krell: (ultra high price, normal sound quality, inadequate heat dissipation engineering (KAV))
ASC Acoustic products

Patron tequila (good taste for premium price)
I don't know of anybody who thinks Johnny Walker (any color) is the best. Rather, they just drink Glenlivet if the price is beyond JW Red or Black.

 

[LS21]

tag heuer

 

[s44]

I'd say diamonds generally

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Hennessy. Don't get me wrong, their upper end stuff is mighty tasty, but at the pricepoint of their VS, VSOP or XO there are many, many superior offerings from smaller houses.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Hennessy. Don't get me wrong, their upper end stuff is mighty tasty, but at the pricepoint of their VS, VSOP or XO there are many, many superior offerings from smaller houses.

In the same way, is Remy Martin, Courvoisier, Martell, and Hine all in the same club?

While I agree that these things are both tasty and expensive, I think that cognac in general is priced according to the supposed class of liquor it is rather than being classified in a price/performance type category that so many other things are.

For example, hard to tell if all of the XOs are good price/performance when they all cost about the same.


Now, as for single malt scotches, I would have to say that Macallan is overpriced for what you get, especially the 12 and 15 years. There are so many other highland single malts to choose.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Tiamat

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Hennessy. Don't get me wrong, their upper end stuff is mighty tasty, but at the pricepoint of their VS, VSOP or XO there are many, many superior offerings from smaller houses.

In the same way, is Remy Martin, Courvoisier, Martell, and Hine all in the same club?

While I agree that these things are both tasty and expensive, I think that cognac in general is priced according to the supposed class of liquor it is rather than being classified in a price/performance type category that so many other things are.

For example, hard to tell if all of the XOs are good price/performance when they all cost about the same.


Now, as for single malt scotches, I would have to say that Macallan is overpriced for what you get, especially the 12 and 15 years. There are so many other highland single malts to choose.

I don't know. I think the price of an expensive scotch or cognac reflects the fact that they need to be properly aged for a long period of time. Anything that you've got to properly cellar in oak casks for 150 years is going to command a hefty price premium simply based on the sheer longevity and effort to get multiple generations of people to continue aging this liquid for some future gain they will never see. If it takes more time and effort to produce, it's going to cost more. I can respect that distinction. Whether or not you like the finished product is a matter of taste, but just because cognac is a liquor doesn't mean it should be compared to something cheap like rum (for example). It's like comparing minivans and sports cars; yes, they're both automobiles, but they perform different functions and cater to completely different markets.

Monster Cables, on the other hand, do the exact same thing as a $2.00 cable from Monoprice, they just have a ridiculous markup, so the comparison is more sensible. But electronics is a market where price/performance ratio is easily quantifiable. How do you quantify price/performance when judging a 100 year old cognac in comparison to bathtub gin?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
How do you quantify price/performance when judging a 100 year old cognac in comparison to bathtub gin?

One way would be to look at overall alcohol content, or the "drunkenness per dollar" ratio.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: Tiamat

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Hennessy. Don't get me wrong, their upper end stuff is mighty tasty, but at the pricepoint of their VS, VSOP or XO there are many, many superior offerings from smaller houses.

In the same way, is Remy Martin, Courvoisier, Martell, and Hine all in the same club?

While I agree that these things are both tasty and expensive, I think that cognac in general is priced according to the supposed class of liquor it is rather than being classified in a price/performance type category that so many other things are.

For example, hard to tell if all of the XOs are good price/performance when they all cost about the same.


Now, as for single malt scotches, I would have to say that Macallan is overpriced for what you get, especially the 12 and 15 years. There are so many other highland single malts to choose.

I don't know. I think the price of an expensive scotch or cognac reflects the fact that they need to be properly aged for a long period of time. Anything that you've got to properly cellar in oak casks for 150 years is going to command a hefty price premium simply based on the sheer longevity and effort to get multiple generations of people to continue aging this liquid for some future gain they will never see. If it takes more time and effort to produce, it's going to cost more. I can respect that distinction. Whether or not you like the finished product is a matter of taste, but just because cognac is a liquor doesn't mean it should be compared to something cheap like rum (for example). It's like comparing minivans and sports cars; yes, they're both automobiles, but they perform different functions and cater to completely different markets.

Monster Cables, on the other hand, do the exact same thing as a $2.00 cable from Monoprice, they just have a ridiculous markup, so the comparison is more sensible. But electronics is a market where price/performance ratio is easily quantifiable. How do you quantify price/performance when judging a 100 year old cognac in comparison to bathtub gin?

That was exactly my point. Cognacs are something the masses hold as "elite" whether or not they drink it, but they are actually a piece of "heritage" and thus, "effort". Whereas, monster cables are something the masses hold as "elite" but they are no better than the run of the mill BJC-type cable - Kinda like selling a well-alcohol LI-iced tea for premium top shelf prices.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
How do you quantify price/performance when judging a 100 year old cognac in comparison to bathtub gin?

One way would be to look at overall alcohol content, or the "drunkenness per dollar" ratio.

lols, I guess Bacardi 151 would win over my Bookers bourbon then

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
For flashlights and illumination products, Surefire. More expensive than everything else in the market.

Some people say they're worth it though.

Surefire isn't overrated.

If you want to say they are overpriced, then maybe. I wouldn't say so though, because they have the warranty and quality behind them. I will say you can get cheaper flashlights that put out as much in terms of lumens. The difference though, is in quality. I'd put my Surefire's up against a Fenix (or any other brand for that matter) any day.

Have you ever owned a Surefire?

I carry a Surefire G2 LED every day and have a X300 mounted to my HK45 pistol so... yeah lol

HK is another brand many people would consider overpriced. Though they're not really overrated. They are in fact good guns, they're just more expensive than they really ought to be.

Ya but it's German, like BMW and Mercedes. You could just buy a Honda right?

 

[LS21]

stella artois

 

[CKent]

I never thought I'd see Johnnie Walker compared to Bose and Monster Cable :Q

I doubt anyone sees it as the top of the line, most people probably think the best whiskey is Jack Daniels and wouldn't know the difference between it and whisky.

Besides, JW offers a great price to quality ratio with red & black labels. Sometimes I want a buzz, and guzzling a good single-malt is almost as much of a travesty as guzzling rot-gut plastic-bottle crap.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: CKent
I never thought I'd see Johnnie Walker compared to Bose and Monster Cable :Q

I doubt anyone sees it as the top of the line, most people probably think the best whiskey is Jack Daniels and wouldn't know the difference between it and whisky.

Besides, JW offers a great price to quality ratio with red & black labels. Sometimes I want a buzz, and guzzling a good single-malt is almost as much of a travesty as guzzling rot-gut plastic-bottle crap.

Haven't had The Glenlivet Nadurra lately? That will get you a quick buzz

In the realm of Bourbons, Bookers will also get you a quick buzz (while not tasting like ass).

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Tiamat

Originally posted by: CKent
I never thought I'd see Johnnie Walker compared to Bose and Monster Cable :Q

I doubt anyone sees it as the top of the line, most people probably think the best whiskey is Jack Daniels and wouldn't know the difference between it and whisky.

Besides, JW offers a great price to quality ratio with red & black labels. Sometimes I want a buzz, and guzzling a good single-malt is almost as much of a travesty as guzzling rot-gut plastic-bottle crap.

Haven't had The Glenlivet Nadurra lately? That will get you a quick buzz

In the realm of Bourbons, Bookers will also get you a quick buzz (while not tasting like ass).

:thumbsup: I'll be looking into it, thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Rio Rebel]

I think the last thing you would call Johnny Walker would be "value". Black is absolutely overpriced, and red tastes like crap...get Dewars or J&B over JW red.

As for Nadurra, I bought a bottle of it. It's just too strong for me. I had to water it down, which means I paid $45 for a bottle of Scotch that I wasn't drinking for the taste.

I think if you're looking for a good buzz for the money, Scotch isn't the way to go. Get a cheaper bourbon and mix it, or vodka.

 

[CKent]

I preferred JW red to the equivalent tier Dewars, never tried J&B.

I prefer not to mix.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
I think the last thing you would call Johnny Walker would be "value". Black is absolutely overpriced, and red tastes like crap...get Dewars or J&B over JW red.

As for Nadurra, I bought a bottle of it. It's just too strong for me. I had to water it down, which means I paid $45 for a bottle of Scotch that I wasn't drinking for the taste.

I think if you're looking for a good buzz for the money, Scotch isn't the way to go. Get a cheaper bourbon and mix it, or vodka.

That's too bad. I found that the flavor neat was very nice. It did sting a little bit, but it was worth it to me. By adding some water, it brought out some additional flavors, but dampened out others that I liked, so it was a wash for me when mixed with water.

At least you got a deal at 45$ around these parts, it goes for 65$ typically. 45$ is what the 12 yr goes for (another decent everyday scotch for the price imho).

Only JW I could drink and felt it was ok to pay for was JW Green.
Lowest end Dewars is gross.

 

[vi edit]

Guinness. It's the Budweiser of Stouts. Not that it's a bad thing. But in the grand scheme of stouts it's a pretty pour...but pretty bland tasting brew. It's absolutely forgetable if you did a blind taste of it against other craft brewed stouts and porters.

But it's got the mass marketing engine behind it.