Boston Bomber - Death sentence

Blackjack200

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I still disagree with the death penalty, but this might be the single case where I care the least.
 

blankslate

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In general I am not a proponent of the death penalty because I don't think that it is applied in an equitable fashion and there have been enough examples of faulty evidence or malfeasance on the part of the prosecution that give me pause.

However, in this case if I was on the jury I would've been very easy to convince to go with the death penalty.


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Indus

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This case was a no brainer as there was clear intent to use a weapon of mass destruction. If that isn't worthy of the death penalty, then nothing is.

Very proud of my country, we chose the right verdict.
 

Blanky

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I am always against the death penalty. But here? Yep, still.

The measure of one's commitment to a cause is not testing it when it is easy to do so but when it is hard. I could never be on a jury in a case with a possible death penalty. I would never, ever vote for it.
 

CitizenKain

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Well instead of him fading away in supermax, now we have decades of appeals. Good plan jury members.
 

preCRT

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My faith in fellow Baystaters has been upheld. Although torture is not legal, that scumbag will pay with his life.
 

ivwshane

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I'm pro death penalty when there is undisputed evidence however I was hoping he would just rot in jail forever.
 

mindmajick

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I am always against the death penalty. But here? Yep, still.

The measure of one's commitment to a cause is not testing it when it is easy to do so but when it is hard. I could never be on a jury in a case with a possible death penalty. I would never, ever vote for it.
What? You don't think it's right to murder someone because they murder people?

Because two wrongs ALWAYS make a right. I bet a lot of Christians support this breaking of their own commandment.
 
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Not a death penalty fan. I'm still torn on this. They saw young children then planted a bomb next to them knowing that its nearly impossible to move on Boylston Street during the marathon. They had ample other trash cans to use.
 
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MetalMat

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I don't have anything against the death penalty but for whatever reason I feel like a better punishment would have been having him rot away the rest of his life in prison
 

rudeguy

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I don't have anything against the death penalty but for whatever reason I feel like a better punishment would have been having him rot away the rest of his life in prison

No a better penalty would have been life in prison where the other people in prison were given bomb making materials and permission to blow off his limbs at their will. But for whatever reason we can't do that, so we have to settle for second best.
 

PokerGuy

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In general I am not a proponent of the death penalty because I don't think that it is applied in an equitable fashion and there have been enough examples of faulty evidence or malfeasance on the part of the prosecution that give me pause.

However, in this case if I was on the jury I would've been very easy to convince to go with the death penalty.


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That's my take on it as well. My discomfort with the death penalty is not the penalty, it's the fact that it's not applied in an equitable fashion, and there are cases where there is some (even a small amount) of doubt where it is still applied. In cases where there is absolutely no doubt about guilt, I have zero problem with the death penalty.

Glad the jurors went this way. My guess is, he spends a decade in prison with appeals and such, and by that time the death penalty will have been abolished (either in that state or in the country as a whole), and he'll just rot in jail regardless.
 

PokerGuy

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What? You don't think it's right to murder someone because they murder people?

BS. Killing with justification is not "murder". If someone kills in self defense, is that murder? How about a soldier that kills an enemy soldier, is that murder? Obviously killing someone is not by definition murder.

Because two wrongs ALWAYS make a right. I bet a lot of Christians support this breaking of their own commandment.

You take issue with Christians over their "breaking of their own commandment" when you apparently have no clue what their faith actually says about the matter. The Bible has many instances where killing is sanctioned.
 

DrPizza

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Meh, it's a case where I really didn't care. But, I'm still against the death penalty. I'd like to think I'm better than people who murder others, rather than sink down to their level to punish them.
 

fleshconsumed

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To be honest, I still think it would have been better to lock him in prison with no parole. I don't know if I completely believe the defense that he was coerced/influenced by his brother, but I do think there is a reasonable chance that he was. Either way he would never get out of prison, so there would be no chance of him harming anyone else ever again. And in general I do not want to perpetuate the cycle of violence. What him and his brother did was horrible, and part of me understands why people want him dead, but part of me is also scared of just how gleeful people are wishing him dead. The whole american justice system is about punishment, and it rubs me the wrong way, which is another reason why I'm against death penalty, even in "clear cut" case like this. Plus I do think there is a chance that Boston Bombers might be elevated to the martyr status by the likes of ISIS and other radicals. So for all of these reasons I do think it would have been better if he was locked away for life.
 

Subyman

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I'm against the death penalty in general. As others have stated, this is a case where I won't be pushing hard against it. My issues with the death penalty are systemic, but I'm indifferent to a barbarian being executed for just cause. I think in this particular case a life sentence would be more of a punishment. Giving this guy death could turn him into a martyr for some. Him rotting slowly in a cell feeding on institutional lunches the rest of his natural life would be the most anticlimactic ending for this piece of shit. No glory to be had staring at the same wall and shitting in the same hole for 50 years.
 

Oyeve

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I'm an eye for an eye kinda guy. Should we kill him? No, but, we should stand him next to a similar bomb, set if off, and see what happens. If he loses a limb or 3 and lives, life in prison, if he dies, oh well.
 

senseamp

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More interested in people's reactions than the verdict itself. Very informative, IMO.
 

Blanky

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What? You don't think it's right to murder someone because they murder people?

Because two wrongs ALWAYS make a right. I bet a lot of Christians support this breaking of their own commandment.
You're right, many Christians do support the death penalty and it pisses me off.

I read this week about ADX Florence. Go look on youtube there is a 60 minutes bit from a few years ago about it. It's exceptionally solitary and seemingly not so pleasant although as one commenter on youtube mentioned it sounds like it could be worse; you are fed and protected. Quite a different life from what this bomber would be used to, though.
 

DigDog

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i'll only be happy if they let me kill him personally. and i think many others feel the same. don't touch boston.
 
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